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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
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    I was check raising thin, because I was actually tryign to get him off marginal hands, because most players in a WSOP 1k, would think, I am not c/r there without something better then there marginal holdings/ When he reraises, I know he doesn't have 1010/QQ (bc I have Q10) I can beat every AK AJ, A<9, and bluffs.

    Its marginal, but yea I was playing for everything. Should I nit it up because I Might only get 1 chance at a WSOP event, I didnt ever think that, I know how to play poker and that was where I should be getting it in, over large sample size!
    Do you understand what the purpose of betting is? You bet for value, you bet to make people pay to draw, or you bet to get an opponent off a better hand. You should in no instance ever be betting to get someone to FOLD a marginal hand that is worse than yours. You want to get paid by the marginal hand not lose value by making it fold. Anyway, we analyzed the hell out of this hand. This hand would have gone different and you'd still be in 90% of the time if you didn't totally nit up your QQ.

    When you were as short as I was, its just a bluff. Its a thin/marginal bluff, probably like 10th level.

    10th level, I like you anonymoose. Have you ever heard of this, please read what I am saying. It is so creative. PLEASE READ IT.

    It is world class.

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    thin marginal but I also had a backdoor playable hand at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
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    Do you understand what the purpose of betting is? You bet for value, you bet to make people pay to draw, or you bet to get an opponent off a better hand. You should in no instance ever be betting to get someone to FOLD a marginal hand that is worse than yours. You want to get paid by the marginal hand not lose value by making it fold. Anyway, we analyzed the hell out of this hand. This hand would have gone different and you'd still be in 90% of the time if you didn't totally nit up your QQ.
    Anonymoose you want all my attention so here you are.

    What did I do wrong, in your opinion?
    Well like Druff and I said, you almost did the right thing with the QT hand, though you should of shoved and now I see why you didn't shove. You have a clear lack of understanding of the fundamentals of betting and pot odds.

    1. You said you were check raising to get him off marginal hands - not only is this terrible, because you want paid by marginal hands, but you couldn't even technically push a guy off a marginal hand in this spot. At the flop there is 1350 in the pot. He bets 800 and you check MIN RAISED to 1600. That means there is now 3750 in the pot and he has to call 800 to continue. If your intention was to get him off a marginal hand you just gave him 5 to 1 to continue!

    2. If I was in his spot this is what would be going through my mind:
    "Folded around I have AQ late position I'm opening."
    "BB looks pretty short stacked but called, pretty standard since he has drawing odds."
    "Ok top two pair, he checks I'm going to continuation bet about half pot and hope he thinks I'm continuing with air."
    "Check min raised for 1/4 of his stack? Is he bluffing and is trying not to go broke or does he actually have a hand I can get paid against? I feel like I can put him all in because if he has nothing he's not continuing when I bet again and if he calls I'm likely ahead against AX or a weak queen."
    "Why the hell would he check min raise with that hand?"
    "Oh well, easy money"
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    Sweet investment C$
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    If cmoney wanted to really make money.

    He would allow me to play a large enough sample size that is significant. And if I was -EV I would make a deal to get it back to him. I am that confident that most these kids playing, aren't better than me.

    They may be more well known, or cooler, but I can beat them. Give me a fair sample size before you write me off as 'no good'.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    If cmoney wanted to really make money.

    He would allow me to play a large enough sample size that is significant. And if I was -EV I would make a deal to get it back to him. I am that confident that most these kids playing, aren't better than me.

    They may be more well known, or cooler, but I can beat them. Give me a fair sample size before you write me off as 'no good'.
    dont make more posts like this

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    If cmoney wanted to really make money.

    He would allow me to play a large enough sample size that is significant. And if I was -EV I would make a deal to get it back to him. I am that confident that most these kids playing, aren't better than me.

    They may be more well known, or cooler, but I can beat them. Give me a fair sample size before you write me off as 'no good'.
    1. You don't understand how betting works.
    2. You claimed a guy was tight when he 3 bet once in 20 hands and proceeded to just call with the third best starting hand while short stacked because of it.
    3. You're asking for a better sample size? lel. Read number 2 again.
    4. You call super standard plays "being creative".

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    1 more thing cmoney.


    If you think I lost ~75k

    Give me a chance, Ill get you 75 profit I swear to god on my life.

    It has to be well thought out and sophisticated. You get the 1st 75k to make up for what you think you lost and we split the rest.

     
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    Anonymoose you talk alot of shit. Ill play you heads up right now on PFA.

    Just because you are rich, and have money means you belong in the World Series of Poker.

    Some people don't come from much and really are very good.

    Play me heads up best of 5 anonymoose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    Anonymoose Ill play you heads up right now on PFA. You talk alot of shit so put your money where your mouth is.

    Just because you are rich, and have money means you belong in the World Series of Poker.

    Some people don't come from much and really are very good.

    Play me heads up best of 5 anonymoose.
    Sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    1 more thing cmoney.


    If you think I lost ~75k

    Give me a chance, Ill get you 75 profit I swear to god on my life.

    It has to be well thought out and sophisticated. You get the 1st 75k to make up for what you think you lost and we split the rest.
    Wtf are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    Anonymoose Ill play you heads up right now on PFA. You talk alot of shit so put your money where your mouth is.

    Just because you are rich, and have money means you belong in the World Series of Poker.

    Some people don't come from much and really are very good.

    Play me heads up best of 5 anonymoose.
    Sure

    $63 was just a novelty so now lets do $60

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by anonamoose View Post

    Sure

    $63 was just a novelty so now lets do $60
    Not playing until druff confirms.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suicide King View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    1 more thing cmoney.


    If you think I lost ~75k

    Give me a chance, Ill get you 75 profit I swear to god on my life.

    It has to be well thought out and sophisticated. You get the 1st 75k to make up for what you think you lost and we split the rest.
    Wtf are you talking about?
    I am talking about getting a backer that can see enough of a sample size that it is significant.

    What are you talking about, Apollo Wallace. You aren't shit so Be careful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Suicide King View Post
    Wtf are you talking about?
    I am talking about getting a backer that can see enough of a sample size that it is significant.

    What are you talking about, Apollo Wallace. You aren't shit so Be careful!
    Lol you are the one who should be careful.....not a good idea to fuck with Suicide King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suicide King View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    1 more thing cmoney.


    If you think I lost ~75k

    Give me a chance, Ill get you 75 profit I swear to god on my life.

    It has to be well thought out and sophisticated. You get the 1st 75k to make up for what you think you lost and we split the rest.
    Wtf are you talking about?
    He thinks that sample size has to do with how poorly he played so he's trying to burn more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    If cmoney wanted to really make money.

    He would allow me to play a large enough sample size that is significant. And if I was -EV I would make a deal to get it back to him. I am that confident that most these kids playing, aren't better than me.

    They may be more well known, or cooler, but I can beat them. Give me a fair sample size before you write me off as 'no good'.
    I'm confident in a lot of things too, you being +ev is not one of them. There are better odds you assault someone at dinner break than make the money

     
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