FUCK BIDEN FUCK WHOEVERELSE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS MASS FELONY IN AFGHANISTAN. People need to lose their jobs and hopefully their freedom for this. As of an hour or so they were within the 250k needed. I retweeted and tagged Bill Perkins hoping he can help them out.
https://www.tmz.com/2021/08/30/milit...eads-for-help/
https://twitter.com/juin9/status/1432483491501920256
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It really is awful isnt it? Nobody will lose their job or be punished for this though. The only response is to vote them out. There has to be a republican president in '24. Only problem is they don't know how to pick the right people to run. The last one I liked was Reagan. I don't know anything about the florida governor except I like his covid response but I also know he is hated by many. I remember thinking the governor of Georgia was honorable re the elections in his state. Are there any other republicans who moderates might be able to stomach? Biden not even through 1st year and he is kaput.Originally Posted by ftpjesus
Republicans know how to put lipstick on a pig.
It really is awful isnt it? Nobody will lose their job or be punished for this though. The only response is to vote them out. There has to be a republican president in '24. Only problem is they don't know how to pick the right people to run. The last one I liked was Reagan. I don't know anything about the florida governor except I like his covid response but I also know he is hated by many. I remember thinking the governor of Georgia was honorable re the elections in his state. Are there any other republicans who moderates might be able to stomach? Biden not even through 1st year and he is kaput.
Another on the list of Trump fails.
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Dogs. This is the part you found upsetting enough to finally chime in on Afghanistan? Dogs?
Unfortunately, I get it.
Here's a Washington Post article you can read for free via some Anchorage site, which is allowed to post it without a paywall:
https://www.adn.com/nation-world/202...s-longest-war/
Note this passage towards the bottom:
U.S. officials were as surprised as anyone. The Americans had expected Ghani would stay for an orderly transition to an interim authority, as the agreement that negotiators in Doha had struck promised. News of Ghani’s departure, received secondhand, meant that hope had been crushed.
“He not only abandoned his country, but then unraveled the security situation in Kabul,” said a senior U.S. official. “People just simply melted away, from the airport to everywhere else.”
In the void, law and order began to break down, with reports of armed gangs moving through the streets.
In a hastily arranged in-person meeting, senior U.S. military leaders in Doha - including McKenzie, the commander of U.S. Central Command - spoke with Abdul Ghani Baradar, head of the Taliban’s political wing.
“We have a problem,” Baradar said, according to the U.S. official. “We have two options to deal with it: You [the United States military] take responsibility for securing Kabul or you have to allow us to do it.”
Throughout the day, Biden had remained resolute in his decision to withdraw all American troops from Afghanistan. The collapse of the Afghan government hadn’t changed his mind.
McKenzie, aware of those orders, told Baradar that the U.S. mission was only to evacuate American citizens, Afghan allies and others at risk. The United States, he told Baradar, needed the airport to do that.
On the spot, an understanding was reached, according to two other U.S. officials: The United States could have the airport until Aug. 31. But the Taliban would control the city.
The Taliban basically offered Biden to let the US military to control Kabul during the evacuation, with the other option being the Taliban itself controlling Kabul.
Amazingly, Biden was so obsessed with withdrawing everyone that he chose to let the Taliban control Kabul during the evacuation!
Is this guy a doddering old senile fool, or what?
But Trump's fault, everyone.
And here's a NY Times article admitting Biden fucked up the withdrawal royally:
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/28/u...ghanistan.html
In framing the decision before him as either complete withdrawal or endless escalation, Mr. Biden has been telling the public that there was in fact no choice at all because he knew that Americans had long since grown disenchanted with the Afghanistan war and favored getting out. The fact that Mr. Trump was the one to leave behind a withdrawal agreement has enabled Mr. Biden to try to share responsibility.
“There was only the cold reality of either following through on the agreement to withdraw our forces or escalating the conflict and sending thousands more American troops back into combat in Afghanistan, lurching into the third decade of conflict,” Mr. Biden said as the Taliban seized Kabul this month.
Critics consider that either disingenuous or at the very least unimaginative, arguing that there were viable alternatives, even if not especially satisfying ones, that may not have ever led to outright victory but could have avoided the disaster now unfolding in Kabul and the provinces.
“The administration is presenting the choices in a way that is, at best, incomplete,” said Meghan O’Sullivan, a deputy national security adviser under President George W. Bush who oversaw earlier stages of the Afghan war. “No one I knew was advocating the return of tens of thousands of Americans into ‘open combat’ with the Taliban.”
Instead, some, including the current military leadership of Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III and Gen. Mark A. Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, asserted that keeping a relatively modest force of as few as 3,000 to 4,500 troops along with the extensive use of drones and close air support could have enabled Afghan security forces to continue holding off the Taliban without putting Americans at much risk.
“There was an alternative that could have prevented further erosion and likely enabled us to roll back some of the Taliban gains in recent years,” said Gen. David H. Petraeus, the retired commander of American forces in Afghanistan and former C.I.A. director who argued the mission was making progress while serving alongside Mr. Biden under President Barack Obama.
If the NY Times and WaPo admit that Biden is an incompetent boob who massively fucked up here and can't blame it on Trump, then I think we know it's true.
But January 6th, guyz.
dogs? mass felony?-definition please. is this worse than you falling for les' story of paralyzing people. or thinking walmart would fail over ammo sales.
did you feel this level of emotion when you heard of these poor dead americans in your backyard. while working at El Paso Nat Gas i checked this line several miles south of this explosion and all the way to New Mexico state line. pipe was installed in mid 1930's and had a max operating pressure of only 350psi.
https://www.abc15.com/news/state/fam...-gas-explosion
trump had 44 cabinet secretaries. 40 of them don't support his 2024 campaign. Zeigt die Nüsse.
im getting a real heavy 'south africa immediately after it took all the farmland from white people and immediately before it starved because south africans were not in fact farmers' vibe off the latest kabul footage.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
Not sure why the U.S. Army left everything behind for the Taliban. The helicopters and humvees will be worthless soon because they need constant maintenance.
If you know your equipment is going to be confiscated by the enemy, why not sabotage it or destroy it?
The fake patriotism after a few bad days amuses me. Half the people posting flags at half mast over the 13 soldiers killed. The soldiers always performed admirably. As in anything, there are always a few assholes, but take any hundred people and there will be half jackasses. Take 100 18-20 year old kids and they did their job amazingly well with very few incidents. The problems are the politicians who get them into these endless quagmires with no real idea what victory is. If the old men politicians were 10% as honorable as the kids, we’d be well-served.
I recall donating to some charity some years ago for veteran suicides. I think it was like 22/day. How about we don’t create generations of guys who kill themselves at that rate?
Many things attribute to why they may take their own life, but fighting and having horrible memories of a war that later they view as pointless and accomplishing almost nothing can’t help. However it ended, it needed to end. It would have been better to be tidy, but then they paint it as some success. Better for it to be a mess, as the entire episode was a mess. The dysfunction at the end is more accurate than some tidy ending.
Not sure why the U.S. Army left everything behind for the Taliban. The helicopters and humvees will be worthless soon because they need constant maintenance.
If you know your equipment is going to be confiscated by the enemy, why not sabotage it or destroy it?
just a thought but i wonder if they may have put GPS trackers in them...
a buddy who does car title loans puts at leas 3 in each car one dummy another easy to find and one super hidden.
its a sneaky trick but could make life easy locating the villains.
all hail Hydra
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Fat chance. Those with the bumper stickers with the flag that says "these colors dont run" have been proven wrong.Not sure why the U.S. Army left everything behind for the Taliban. The helicopters and humvees will be worthless soon because they need constant maintenance.
If you know your equipment is going to be confiscated by the enemy, why not sabotage it or destroy it?
just a thought but i wonder if they may have put GPS trackers in them...
a buddy who does car title loans puts at leas 3 in each car one dummy another easy to find and one super hidden.
its a sneaky trick but could make life easy locating the villains.
related; dont overlook that all that gear the taliban just lucked into will be reduced to rust inside of 6 months without proper maintenance and they dont have the training or parts or budget to get them.
they would do well to weld plows onto anything that runs and convert every single flat surface in the country into either a saffron plot or a grain farm.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
the humvee is a bad-ass vehicle. there will be plenty of them patrolling the streets of Kabul for years to come lest we forget we were ever there too soon. The American M-16 is nothing compared to the Kalishnakov ak47. The American machine gun will last there a long time too. These are pretty sweet but not sure how it compares to Russians. I know little about the other stuff on the list. Just one more indignity for us in facing the national shame that was this war.
related; dont overlook that all that gear the taliban just lucked into will be reduced to rust inside of 6 months without proper maintenance and they dont have the training or parts or budget to get them.
they would do well to weld plows onto anything that runs and convert every single flat surface in the country into either a saffron plot or a grain farm.
im not really relating with the indignity vibe currently. we had 20 years worth of gear there, it wasnt getting airlifted out. and i have to expect trump made arrangements with the taliban, eg dont shoot down our fucking planes and you can have all these toys.
which is actually smart if you want to make sure the taliban isnt instantly overrun by isis/aq/etc.
not a fan of closing bagram so fast but again, im not sure im not just obsessing on the optics instead of looking at the upsides. because there are actually a lot of them. and christ knows whatever we left behind could get evaporated by a couple of AC-130s over the course of a weekend or three if the taliban show their asses and piss us off.
i think what bothers people most is the notion that afghanistan will have a legitimate islamic government and yeah thats a fucking bummer for a lot of afghanis but id like to let the dust settle before i really start putting this in the L column honestly.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
watching bidens speech just now. I accept his explanation for the end result. He only mentioned Trump's role in this in the negative when I think he had an opportunity and a duty to praise Trump for what he did to get us near the end. I didn't like it that he referred to the numbers of people they got out as being such a positive thing when the number was far from 100%. After Viet Nam there were POW's still left behind. It's why we have the black flag with pow/mia to this day I believe. There are so many people to share in the blame for all of this. I could've spoken up more or organized or offered more support and I failed too. Its a national failure on all of us. Its definitely on Biden its just not only on Biden.the humvee is a bad-ass vehicle. there will be plenty of them patrolling the streets of Kabul for years to come lest we forget we were ever there too soon. The American M-16 is nothing compared to the Kalishnakov ak47. The American machine gun will last there a long time too. These are pretty sweet but not sure how it compares to Russians. I know little about the other stuff on the list. Just one more indignity for us in facing the national shame that was this war.
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