Stones livestream player Mike Postle accused of "live superusing"

[go_buccos]

I dated a girl in the Sacramento area briefly a few years ago, thus spending a fair bit of time playing at TV. Played with Lon several times, and always regarded him as a super nice guy and a class act..

Guess I was wrong. Very disappointed (and surprised) to see him take this position.

[sah_24]

I dated a girl in the Sacramento area briefly a few years ago, thus spending a fair bit of time playing at TV. Played with Lon several times, and always regarded him as a super nice guy and a class act..

Guess I was wrong. Very disappointed (and surprised) to see him take this position.

It's not surprising, he is on Stone's pay roll ... lol

[JeffDime]

I was surprised to see that Wikipedia has Lon being 62-63. I figured him to be in his late 60s at least. What I have noticed over the last few years of the WSOP Main Event streaming live is that Lon has been making an increasing amount of mistakes for years. I don’t know if anyone else has noticed but it gets worse and worse each year. He reads the board wrong, loses track of the action, forgets player’s names etc. He has been doing this enough for me to think he’s really lost more than just his fastball.

My theory is he clearly has relationship(s) with people high up at Stones. Those people have probably told Lon everything is fine & if he wouldn’t mind talking up (shilling) for the joint to please do so. Lon has (maybe had after today) a reputation as a really nice guy in the community. I think he’s sort of been unwittingly sent out to try and spin what we know can’t be spun.

Circling back to his mental state I hope I’m not coming off ageist here. What I’ve noticed is as people get to a certain point their ability or even desire to think critically or re-evaluate their loyalties becomes basically non-existent. If I had to guess this is what happened to Lon. He didn’t watch Joey’s streams, he is totally out of touch with the community on this and these people connected to Stones have taken advantage of that fact. If I’m right shame on those fuckers that put him up to it.

Or maybe Lon is a paid shill & has really been Keyser Soze this whole time.

[Dan Druff]

I dated a girl in the Sacramento area briefly a few years ago, thus spending a fair bit of time playing at TV. Played with Lon several times, and always regarded him as a super nice guy and a class act..

Guess I was wrong. Very disappointed (and surprised) to see him take this position.

It's not surprising, he is on Stone's pay roll ... lol

Correct:

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...-lon-mceachern

[sah_24]

I was surprised to see that Wikipedia has Lon being 62-63. I figured him to be in his late 60s at least. What I have noticed over the last few years of the WSOP Main Event streaming live is that Lon has been making an increasing amount of mistakes for years. I don’t know if anyone else has noticed but it gets worse and worse each year. He reads the board wrong, loses track of the action, forgets player’s names etc. He has been doing this enough for me to think he’s really lost more than just his fastball.

My theory is he clearly has relationship(s) with people high up at Stones. Those people have probably told Lon everything is fine & if he wouldn’t mind talking up (shilling) for the joint to please do so. Lon has (maybe had after today) a reputation as a really nice guy in the community. I think he’s sort of been unwittingly sent out to try and spin what we know can’t be spun.

Circling back to his mental state I hope I’m not coming off ageist here. What I’ve noticed is as people get to a certain point their ability or even desire to think critically or re-evaluate their loyalties becomes basically non-existent. If I had to guess this is what happened to Lon. He didn’t watch Joey’s streams, he is totally out of touch with the community on this and these people connected to Stones have taken advantage of that fact. If I’m right shame on those fuckers that put him up to it.

Or maybe Lon is a paid shill & has really been Keyser Soze this whole time.

No, he's literally a paid shill ...

[go_buccos]

It's not surprising, he is on Stone's pay roll ... lol

Correct:

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...-lon-mceachern

Makes more sense now.

Still would be nice if SOMEONE affiliated with Stones would have the balls to say "hey, we fucked up. We'll fix it going forward."

I guess given the legal corner they've backed themselves into now, that really can't happen.

[duped_samaritan]

So Lon is done having anything to do with hole card commentary.

Kind of sad but I guess he was done anyway.

[mulva]

Ugh

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lon is the type of person that would write for sports illustrated.

if you don't know wut that means lol@ u

[Dan Druff]

Mac Verstandig is now making most (but not all) documents related to the case available on his website: https://mbvesq.com/e-d-cal-litigation

The most recent documents posted were from April 28.

DE 054 is a motion for sanctions against Postle for having an attorney "ghostwrite" his response. I never thought this was any kind of violation under California law, but Mac claims it is. Guess we will see.

DE 055 is their opposition to Postle's motion to dismiss the case. I am guessing that this opposition will be successful, and the motion to dismiss will be denied.

[JeffDime]

Postle must have some serious cabin fever by now. He was basically self-isolating many months before he legally had to under California law. Still all and all the pandemic is kind of a lucky break for him as more time passes naturally interest in the case fades a bit which is part of what he is hoping for I’m sure.

I am curious if he filed for unemployment benefits as a poker player using partly the money he won at Stones on his 2019 tax return. If approved he would be getting the maximum under California law plus the federal $600 week on top of that. I wouldn’t put it past a guy like him whose money faucet was turned off a while ago.

[OldHoster]

Postle must have some serious cabin fever by now. He was basically self-isolating many months before he legally had to under California law. Still all and all the pandemic is kind of a lucky break for him as more time passes naturally interest in the case fades a bit which is part of what he is hoping for I’m sure.

I am curious if he filed for unemployment benefits as a poker player using partly the money he won at Stones on his 2019 tax return. If approved he would be getting the maximum under California law plus the federal $600 week on top of that. I wouldn’t put it past a guy like him whose money faucet was turned off a while ago.

I don't know about unemployment, but I would bet a $100 against a doughnut that he did it for the EIDL and PPP grants.

[Shizzmoney]

Good thread on the case that had a legal conference call/oral arguments regarding the Motions to Dismiss by Mike Postle, Stones & Justin Kuraitis.:

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[duped_samaritan]

Do we know who this is? Justin the floor guy is a named plaintiff so it must be someone else, right?


lol

[Dan Druff]

Do we know who this is? Justin the floor guy is a named plaintiff so it must be someone else, right?


lol

Yeah probably someone else.

There's a few names I can think of, though I'm not sure which one is being referred to here.

I saw in that Twitter thread that the judge gave Mac a hard time for having a bad internet connection (he was connected via internet to the proceedings, presumably because of COVID-19).

I didn't think that was fair. Mac doesn't have control over his house or office's sporadic internet outages, nor can he be expected to maintain an expensive backup connection just in case this happens.

[Dan Druff]

I am hearing that both Stones and nearby Thunder Valley will reopen on June 8.

Stones will have 6 fewer poker tables than before, but otherwise operate normally.

[JeffDime]

This is an article from May 12 from the online pro Postle rag known as Rounderlife. This one is written by the esteemed journalist Evert Caldwell entitled “New Revelations Deflate “Postlegate” Narrative”. This goes on for a while but mainly jumps on the Marle hand and her lawsuit.

In a vacuum the Marle hand was certainly not absurd that someone would fold top pair on the turn playing that deep. I do wonder why Marle went on her own as I am guessing she really is pissed she didn’t get paid off for that hand. I could only speculate on reasons why she went at it alone. Mac Verstanding I’m sure wasn’t crazy about not keeping this under one umbrella but when she was determined to sue for this hand specifically he really had no choice but to represent her to not over complicate things.

Unfortunately, as has been part of the Postle strategy from the start Veronica Brill is attacked in the article.

https://www.rounderlife.com/10459-2/

[MrTickle]

Postle case dismissed

[Shizzmoney]

Un-fucking-real

[donkeykilla]

In before dipshit @themouthmatusow says I told you so.

[Shizzmoney]

According to court documents obtained by PokerNews via Pacer, the judge sided with the argument put forth by King’s that the plaintiffs' various claims were “not cognizable under California law because California public policy bars judicial intervention in gambling disputes, in part because the asserted damages are inherently speculative” as laid out in Kelly v. First Astri Corp.

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2020/...udge-37385.htm