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MumblesBadly
Don’t be surprised if he isn’t added to the top Dem ticket for 2020. He would absolutely help a more centrist Dem candidate to rally Progressive minded voters in swing states to the polls.
If the Dems do what many expect and instead of trying to appear to be contrite winners by taking back the House and instead plow forward with their far leftist fuck Trump agenda it wont matter who the Dems run in 2020 as Trump and Pence will steamroll them like Reagan did to Mondale in 84.. They need to realize those seats they won were more some blowback over GOP not doing what they promised and not an indictment of Trump..
The Dems one in some districts that were traditionally GOP largely because the suburbs that mostly voted for Trump in 2016 turned against them. That is definitely a repudiation of Trump. But Trump's masterful use of racism rallied even more rural white voters to the polls for him and the GOP candidates he campaigned for, Ted Cruz included.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...emocrats-gains
Trump in fact appears to have orchestrated the best midterm election for a Sitting President 2 yrs into his 1st term then any in awhile.. Obama got hammered in 2010, Clinton in 94 (the massive wave that turned the House Red for the first time in decades and brought us Speaker Newt). Bush 43 had the whole 9/11 and Iraq thing going for him which helped (gaining 2 Senate Seats and 8 House seats, Trump may indeed pick up more Senate seats if things hold and they dont lose back Flakes seat here in AZ).
Almost losing Flake's seat is directly due to the Trumpites in that state vowing to take down Flake in the primary well before it began because of Flake's opposition to Trump's extreme attitude. The GOP squeezed by with less than 1.0% this year, while Flake beat his 2012 opponent by 3%.
It seems the Dems arent going to have a massive mandate and could barely squeak by with a borderline majority less then what the GOP had prior to Tuesday. (looking very likely they will hold 220-225 seats).
[b]The Dems are currently projected by fivethirtyeight to pick up 34 seats.
They needed 23 to get a 218 seat majority. +34 would put them at 229.
The election sent a very mixed signal in my opinion.. The treatment of Judge Kavanaugh blew up in the Dems faces and is why they lost seats in the Senate hands down.. (honestly still surprised Menendez kept his seat in NJ after the criminal charges despite the mistrial result)..
I agree that the Kavanaugh fight rallied GOP support to the polls, but it also rallied Dem supporters, too, so it was at best for the GOP a wash. Midterm voter turnout was huge this year versus 2014, with 114 million voting this year versus 83 million in 2014.
And a very liberal CT may very well have a GOP Governor for the first time in a long time.. This wasnt about some massive rebuke of Trump this was about a rebuke of the dumbass politicians in general and the publics had enough of it across the country..
Connecticut Republicans aren't the fire-breathing racists like southern GOP gubernatorial candidates that Trump voters flocked to elect Kemp and DeSantis. They are like conservative Democrats, focusing on fiscal issues and "fixing" government.
https://www.courant.com/politics/ele...htmlstory.html
A Sidenote.. If indeed the Dems hold a very small margin in the House and somehow Pelosi and her old guard maintain control the voters will immediately turn on the new electees because many promised to oppose her as House Speaker and if her and the rest of the leftist shrill leadership such as Jackson Lee and Dirty old Man Conyers keep their expected assignments as Committee chairs its gonna get really ridiculous really quick..
Pelosi is an establishment Democrat who won't willingly back Medicare-for-all, which is a key Progressive issue AND is favored by a majority of voters, and even more strongly among Democratic candidate supporters. So don't expect the voters to turn on the newly elected Dems, as they also tend to be progressive candidates with little allegiance to Pelosi and the old guard.
BTW this is going to be bad for the markets I Hope everybody is ready for that.. The additional tax cuts Trump promised specifically for middle class are Dead in the water with the Dems controlling the House as all tax bills by Constitutional Mandate have to originate there.. Also I can only imagine how fucked up things are going to be when it comes to reconciliation of legislation with Dems controlling the House and GOP the Senate.. It isnt going to be pretty at all.. We will be lucky if anything gets accomplished again between 2019 and the 2020 major election cycle..
The Dems will definitely propose their own middle class tax cuts, but if the GOP objects due to the cost, the Dems will call for it to be funded by increases on taxes on the rich. The GOP will then be forced to fight such a tax change given their patronage by the rich, and that will help the Dems in 2020 if they handle handle the optics correctly.
But I agree with that last comment that very little will get done before then except for the following: The Dems will be able to use their House investigative powers to shine a huge light on the corruption within Trump's administration, which has been given almost a wholesale pass by the GOP-controlled Congress to date. And it will also be able to investigate the Trump family's corrupted dealings that have mostly only been looked at by some elements of the press. Even the Watergate scandal was a backwater issue for the majority of the public until the Congressional hearings in the summer of '73.
And if those get enough traction with the public, the Dems will then likely look at Trump's tax returns to evidence for misconduct. And then all bets are off for Trump and the corrupt GOPers that have supported him.
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