Two thumbs up! I got into it with Phil Hellmuth at the table today

[Dan Druff]

Question:

If he just threw in a 1k chip without ANY gesture, the dealer announced raise, and 6 people folded, would you say it should be ruled a raise?

I would think it could be argued that those 6 people screwed themselves by not knowing the rules.

I think the "there's already action, hand stands" precedent only deals with dealer error, such as if the button is incorrect, and it's only noticed after a raise and re-raise preflop. But this is different.

The WSOP has a "significant action" rule, meaning that the floor man can back out a hand if there aren't at least 2 players whom have voluntarily put chips in the pot.

I think the same might apply here. Phil's action followed by 6 folds pre-flop doesn't constitute significant action.

How would you have handled this if the dealer declared raise and 3 players flatted the raise before it got to you?

Then I would have accepted it as a raise. That's "significant action", and in that case would have been my fault for not speaking up before such action occurred.

I wasn't trying to angle the other players.

When it got to me, I thought about it, and said to myself, "Wait a minute, maybe that's not a raise!"