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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
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    No.
    Reading is great, why not try comprehension?
    Are you trying to make the case that the USA would not pay out the remaining 2,000,000,000 if we stayed in the deal?
    Nope. Just saying Obama signed over a check that you are stuck with and default would mean a second Pearl Harbour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post
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    If this were at all true it would change my opinion.

    Have proof? I'm not being a smart ass. Everything I've read (and I've said since the start of this thread for someone to tell me what I have read is wrong) says the USA is in for $3B cold hard cash, rest of the world zero.
    damn, I actually had some respect for Daly,
    I didn't know he dabbled in conspiracy theories,


    196 countries, and we had to pay the whole thing, oh yeah that doesn't sound like fake news, Shouldn't you be the one having proof?
    is Hillary child molesting again, too?
    Up to 10 pages mostly on this topic and I've been asking for someone to show me where the rest of the world is chipping in here.

    So far I got 3B USA, rest of the world zero.

    I've looked. I've found nothing. Nobody in here has found anything.

    Show me I'm wrong. I want to be wrong..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyG_415 View Post

    damn, I actually had some respect for Daly,
    I didn't know he dabbled in conspiracy theories,


    196 countries, and we had to pay the whole thing, oh yeah that doesn't sound like fake news, Shouldn't you be the one having proof?
    is Hillary child molesting again, too?
    Up to 10 pages mostly on this topic and I've been asking for someone to show me where the rest of the world is chipping in here.

    So far I got 3B USA, rest of the world zero.

    I've looked. I've found nothing. Nobody in here has found anything.

    Show me I'm wrong. I want to be wrong..
    it's funny but sad that you say you've got "3B USA, rest of the world zero" and you're asking for people to refute that, when you, yourself, haven't provided the source of your claims unless i missed it. where did you get your info?

    regardless:

    It is incorrect that other countries have not contributed to the Green Climate Fund. In fact, 43 governments have pledged money to the fund, including nine developing countries. The countries have pledged to pay $10.13 billion collectively, and the U.S. share is $3 billion. As of May 2017, the United States has contributed $1 billion of the $3 billion it pledged.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a12b3ff1283d

    https://www.greenclimate.fund/docume...c-5566ed6afd19

    now that we have your "proof", can you humor me and post the source of your $3 billion to $0 claim? alex jones? facebook? something else embarrassing trump supporters rely on?

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    In fairness, you still have not actually quoted anything to indicate any other country had paid a cent. All you have quoted is that the US has paid in $1B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post

    Up to 10 pages mostly on this topic and I've been asking for someone to show me where the rest of the world is chipping in here.

    So far I got 3B USA, rest of the world zero.

    I've looked. I've found nothing. Nobody in here has found anything.

    Show me I'm wrong. I want to be wrong..
    it's funny but sad that you say you've got "3B USA, rest of the world zero" and you're asking for people to refute that, when you, yourself, haven't provided the source of your claims unless i missed it. where did you get your info?

    regardless:

    It is incorrect that other countries have not contributed to the Green Climate Fund. In fact, 43 governments have pledged money to the fund, including nine developing countries. The countries have pledged to pay $10.13 billion collectively, and the U.S. share is $3 billion. As of May 2017, the United States has contributed $1 billion of the $3 billion it pledged.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a12b3ff1283d

    https://www.greenclimate.fund/docume...c-5566ed6afd19

    now that we have your "proof", can you humor me and post the source of your $3 billion to $0 claim? alex jones? facebook? something else embarrassing trump supporters rely on?
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mate-fund.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    In fairness, you still have not actually quoted anything to indicate any other country had paid a cent. All you have quoted is that the US has paid in $1B.
    i'm going to go out on a limb and say you didn't read the green climate link i posted (and gimmick did too). the column that says amount actually "disbursed" seems to indicate that those funds were actually disbursed

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    I didn't press on any link. I just read the quotes you presented, and based on the quotes I can see that the US has paid $1B to the fund so far and that is it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muck Ficon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

    it's funny but sad that you say you've got "3B USA, rest of the world zero" and you're asking for people to refute that, when you, yourself, haven't provided the source of your claims unless i missed it. where did you get your info?

    regardless:

    It is incorrect that other countries have not contributed to the Green Climate Fund. In fact, 43 governments have pledged money to the fund, including nine developing countries. The countries have pledged to pay $10.13 billion collectively, and the U.S. share is $3 billion. As of May 2017, the United States has contributed $1 billion of the $3 billion it pledged.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a12b3ff1283d

    https://www.greenclimate.fund/docume...c-5566ed6afd19

    now that we have your "proof", can you humor me and post the source of your $3 billion to $0 claim? alex jones? facebook? something else embarrassing trump supporters rely on?
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mate-fund.html

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    not only that, but keep in mind that the US alone, has contributed about 1/3 of the total excess carbon dioxide in the world

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...deal.html?_r=0

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    This is the part of the thread where someone in a red baseball hat calls blake a faggot nerd then beans him with a can of oil which breaks open and blinds him and then he staggers towards a freeway and a cop shoots him because he looks black.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Muck Ficon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

    it's funny but sad that you say you've got "3B USA, rest of the world zero" and you're asking for people to refute that, when you, yourself, haven't provided the source of your claims unless i missed it. where did you get your info?

    regardless:



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a12b3ff1283d

    https://www.greenclimate.fund/docume...c-5566ed6afd19

    now that we have your "proof", can you humor me and post the source of your $3 billion to $0 claim? alex jones? facebook? something else embarrassing trump supporters rely on?
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mate-fund.html

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    not only that, but keep in mind that the US alone, has contributed about 1/3 of the total excess carbon dioxide in the world

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...deal.html?_r=0
    So how does writing a check do anything but rob the taxpayers and enrich someone else? How is this problem solved by throwing money at it and why is ** not ** throwing money at a problem === there is no problem? You don't have to throw money at a problem for the problem to be real.

    I mean seriously, wtf?

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    I remember I looked at the actual numbers once, and given the % of the time young black males are involved in violent crimes, especially shooting police officers, they are actually under-targeted by police.

    If you actually break it down, it appears non-blacks are being unfairly targeted by police, given respective total populations and % of crimes committed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
    I remember I looked at the actual numbers once, and given the % of the time young black males are involved in violent crimes, especially shooting police officers, they are actually under-targeted by police.

    If you actually break it down, it appears non-blacks are being unfairly targeted by police, given respective total populations and % of crimes committed.
    unfairly non-targeted would do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidewinder View Post
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    not only that, but keep in mind that the US alone, has contributed about 1/3 of the total excess carbon dioxide in the world

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...deal.html?_r=0
    So how does writing a check do anything but rob the taxpayers and enrich someone else? How is this problem solved by throwing money at it and why is ** not ** throwing money at a problem === there is no problem? You don't have to throw money at a problem for the problem to be real.

    I mean seriously, wtf?
    i think the funds are supposed to be used to help developing countries switch to cleaner fuels or something, but not really sure.

    aren't the funds the minor part of this though? the more important aspect of this deal was that the US committed (along with all other countries except syria and nicaragua) to implement a plan to reduce its carbon emissions.

    i get the argument that the enhanced environmental regulations might hurt the US economy, which may be true (i have no idea), but let's be honest, the outrage over $3,000,000,000 is a joke. $3 billion is virtually a rounding error for the US.

    for god's sake, trump's idiotic wall would cost over $20,000,000,000, yet somehow trump fans don't mind that

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    the reason trump left paris accord is because there is exactly one (1) thing hes capable of accomplishing as president; drill baby drill.



    thats it.


    this isnt about $2bn, or climate denial, or partisan politics.

    he cant be in the accord while he takes the shackles off the coal/oil industry.

    he thinks that if he jump starts the fossil fuel market, it will somehow be like opening up the choke on an engine and america will somehow be great again because jerbs or something, and in doing so he can use that commerce to legitimize his tax cuts for the wealthy.

    obviously anyone who graduated high school knows that's laughable but here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Muck Ficon View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post

    it's funny but sad that you say you've got "3B USA, rest of the world zero" and you're asking for people to refute that, when you, yourself, haven't provided the source of your claims unless i missed it. where did you get your info?

    regardless:



    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a12b3ff1283d

    https://www.greenclimate.fund/docume...c-5566ed6afd19

    now that we have your "proof", can you humor me and post the source of your $3 billion to $0 claim? alex jones? facebook? something else embarrassing trump supporters rely on?
    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...mate-fund.html

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    not only that, but keep in mind that the US alone, has contributed about 1/3 of the total excess carbon dioxide in the world

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...deal.html?_r=0

    Trumptards so ill informed as per. It's what makes it so galling when they talk about picking up the tab for the whole world and other such nonsense.

    You can't blame the US for getting rich on the back of fossil fuels. Every country has or would do the same.

    But the absolute bare faced cheek to be the only country on earth to walk away (again) after contributing the most pollution by far into our atmosphere. Well that's just unforgivable.

    Trump's speech yesterday will never be forgotten either.
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    Is any of this really a surprise? I barely pay any attention to politics, but my very rudementary understanding of Trump's politics is that most of the "controversial" stuff he has done so far (repealing the Climate thing, health care bill, all the Nepotism) is pretty much what was expected. So why does him doing exactly what we expected him to do causing so much outrage?

    I really don't get it.

    I mean, of course it is a complete clown show. But what do you expect? We elected Donald Trump as president of the United States. We pretty much just have to suck it up the next 4/8 years and make the best of it. But at this point, I dont really see the point of being so indignant and outraged at every little thing.

    That being said, Anderson Cooper was 100% correct. The verbal gymnastics conservatives will go through to defend the stuff Trump does/says truly is a sight to behold. Almost as good as when Bill Clinton saying "it depends upon what the meaning of the word is is"

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    In my opinion the election of President Trump is a complete refutation of the SJW polical correctedness culture and complete pandering to the rich that the media has been trying to shove down our throats, and democratic party of Obama and Hillary pandered to, and not much else.

    Unfortunately, it appears the mainstream media and the left in general instead of realizing how America is sick of the political correct nonsense and the reason we elected Trump in the first place, is instead doubling down on it, meaning we are going to go through the exact same thing in 4 years, if not Trump than some other demagogue that positions himself as standing up to the nonsense.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    the reason trump left paris accord is because there is exactly one (1) thing hes capable of accomplishing as president; drill baby drill.



    thats it.


    this isnt about $2bn, or climate denial, or partisan politics.

    he cant be in the accord while he takes the shackles off the coal/oil industry.

    he thinks that if he jump starts the fossil fuel market, it will somehow be like opening up the choke on an engine and america will somehow be great again because jerbs or something, and in doing so he can use that commerce to legitimize his tax cuts for the wealthy.

    obviously anyone who graduated high school knows that's laughable but here we are.
    guy's been schooled on pulling out though
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    Quote Originally Posted by blake View Post
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    Up to 10 pages mostly on this topic and I've been asking for someone to show me where the rest of the world is chipping in here.

    So far I got 3B USA, rest of the world zero.

    I've looked. I've found nothing. Nobody in here has found anything.

    Show me I'm wrong. I want to be wrong..
    it's funny but sad that you say you've got "3B USA, rest of the world zero" and you're asking for people to refute that, when you, yourself, haven't provided the source of your claims unless i missed it. where did you get your info?

    regardless:

    It is incorrect that other countries have not contributed to the Green Climate Fund. In fact, 43 governments have pledged money to the fund, including nine developing countries. The countries have pledged to pay $10.13 billion collectively, and the U.S. share is $3 billion. As of May 2017, the United States has contributed $1 billion of the $3 billion it pledged.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.a12b3ff1283d

    https://www.greenclimate.fund/docume...c-5566ed6afd19

    now that we have your "proof", can you humor me and post the source of your $3 billion to $0 claim? alex jones? facebook? something else embarrassing trump supporters rely on?

    Thank you. This is exactly what I've been looking for. England and Sweden have also paid out almost a $1B combined. I'm willing to say us pulling out is bullshit now.

     
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    The least surprising thing is that Trump did not consult any scientists before making the decision. We're in the Age of Ignorance.

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