Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Guy View Post
Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post

Did you read the article? I thought it ridic until fillowing his reasoning about the betting pattern, table read, and that this was in the Main Event. Because, as he said, he would have made that call in a cash game or other tourney. And afterward, the reaction of his opponent when he folded strongly supports it.

Mind you, I would have auto-donkey called. But that's why I'm not a pro mostly-NLHE player like Bowker, with or without lifetime tourney winnings of over $2.8m to date.

http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=51645
Bowker & his opponent in that hand can say anything they want but in most likelihood he had the nut flush draw, most likey A-Qs, & got there & was gonna donk his stack off. He may have even been slow-playing a boat but I just don't see how the betting pattern screams Q-10s. I just don't see it.

Terrible, terrible fold IMO.
1) He was "a three-better". There is a good chance he would have 3-bet the flop with AQ suited to isolate the orig raiser.

2) Bowker gave no indication that this guy was a donkey.

3) This was *the* WSOP Main Event, not some $10 -- or even a $100 -- online tourney that young hotshots are likely to play with reckless abandon and rinse and repeat if they donk off being overly aggressive with n-th best hands on the river (with n > 8) against the in-position river bettor.

4) Bowker's lead out river bet was large enough to indicate that he was pot committed. Raising all-in while giving Bowker 4-1 on his money -- and when Bowker wouldn't be crippled if he called and lost -- would have been an utterly stupid desperation move by the kid if he held the nut flush. In fact, if he was so reckless/aggresive, he would likely have raised all-in on the turn, where he had more fold equity. Especially when Bowker disguised the ridic strength of his hand by betting out.

5) If the "kid" had been a much older guy (say, my age), and frustrated by events up to that point, there is good chance he would donked off his chips on the river with such a bet with only the nut flush in a vain attempt to "make a move against that punk poker pro Bowker!"

6) If the "kid" had been Jacylin Moskow, it is almost GUAR-RAN-TEED that she would have make such a donkey move with the 9th best hand in that case. (At least as evidenced by her showing in that PNIA hand that she tried to get quashed.)