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Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post

No offense, but if you think AA is not functional and you are in the treatment business, its likely safe to assume you have a professional agenda. Everyone that goes to AA/NA and does not visit you, means money out of your industry. It's the age old battle between AA groups and treatment centers.

Yes, AA is run by non professionals / volunteers (ex drunks and addicts) and I was at meetings over time that candidly were dicey. In one particular meeting there was a guy running the meeting because the normal host did not show up. He was basically a doper and he very well might have been strung out. He had no business running a meeting and probably chased off some people. He was simply bizarre talking about shooting up outside a motel room, keep in mind this was AA not NA.

Anyway, I get your point, anything run by volunteers can get sketchy. But in my years in AA (and its been since 2010 since I went), most meetings were therapeutic. For no other reason it kept me occupied and away from the liquor store and casino.
As for trying to get patients to come to me rather than AA/NA, sorry but LOL. The whole sector is overburdened and full of long waitlists. We want less clients not more...
LOL, no offense but come on. Treatment officials have been trashing AA for years. I highly doubt when a patient whips out their credit card you guys are recommending AA. Nope, its $10K to start (and a healthy commission for the rep to be sure) to get into professional treatment. You get a millionaire parent in there with his 17 year old son its like a shark in water. And I am not trying to sound like a douche, I get it, its business, we all have to make money.

Addiction treatment is a business plain and simple. The broke ones you send to AA immediately. You have money, its treatment, and lots of it.