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    One minor thing when signing a deal ,The judge does not have to agree with it its really rare he don't but he does not have to ,The deal is only the D.A agreeing that is what he will recommend and ask for of the judge.
    There may not be a stipulation in there that says micon can not play poker or do any form of gambling but that's where the surprise could acure when he goes to see his p.o for the first time as his p.o would have 100% control on rather or not he can or can not do any form of gambling rather it is micons self acclaimed nut shell or not ,Proving micon is -ev non professional would not be very easy,He gets his deal the only thing left to fade is his p.o hitting him with a 1 outer this could be interesting
    75% of the time if your charge is non drug related there will be no drug tests so he should be good with the weed smoking .

     
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    I never browse on my phone,My writing just sucks in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hurdleking View Post
    Yea hearing has been set for next Thursday and warrant recalled so Micon can travel.....will be interesting. I doubt that a plea deal has already been agreed to but perhaps....

    Yeah, court appearance is just a formality. Lulz

    Is Vegas PD making adequate preparation for the crush of supporters at the airport & courtroom?

    Druff & Micon will feel a strange sense of déjà vu as they replay this scene.

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    Will be fascinating, wouldn't be surprised if we see a year and a day sentence with no probation either.

    Out in 6 - 9 months

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    also we havent really discussed that they could easily wack him with fresh charges based on what they recovered from his hard drives.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So let's say Micon lucks out and gets a fine+probation and serves no jail time. So he comes back to the US, and aside from his pocket being a bit lighter, he's able to go on living normally again.

    Then what?

    His terms of probation will clearly state that he can't run or work for any sort of online gambling site again.

    So he can't go back to being "Chairman of Seals", nor can he continue to promote or be the face of SWC in any way. I suppose he could continue running SWC in the shadows (as I believe he's been doing for the past 2 months), claiming that someone else actually owns it. But what is that going to get him? People played on Seals because Micon attached it to his name and identity. If the message presented to the public about SWC is, "I don't run this anymore, but you can totally trust the anonymous Euro guys who do", it's never going to grow, and will eventually dwindle to nothing. Even if some people understand that he really still runs it in a wink-wink-nudge-nudge way, that won't be enough to get any kind of real traffic there.

    Plus, he would be violating probation, and I'm not sure he'd risk that just for the relatively small income SWC will bring him.

    It's possible that he's willing to just give it all up, and plans to live on whatever bitcoin he has saved, or perhaps he thinks he will return to poker and start making money again like it's Party Poker in 2004. But I'm not sure if his plans are to return to the US and just live out a normal life. Recall he planned to move to Antigua before all of this went down. It's possible that he just wants to beat this (so he can return to the US at will without worrying about being arrested), but will live abroad and try to run gambling sites from those places, maybe this time being more in the shadows.
    Micon may only be facing about a year in state prison, however Micon will probably get 3 years probation/parole.
    How likely could Micon violate probation? very likely I'd say.

    They may not allow Micon to gamble or play in poker tournaments.
    They may force Micon to get mental health counseling.
    Micon will be forced to take lie detector tests.
    They will force Micon to get a real job, they can order regular drug testing, not allow him to travel out of the state and impose another restriction like a 8:00pm curfew at night.

    A better deal for Micon may be 2 or 3 years in state prison with no probation/parole.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So let's say Micon lucks out and gets a fine+probation and serves no jail time. So he comes back to the US, and aside from his pocket being a bit lighter, he's able to go on living normally again.

    Then what?

    His terms of probation will clearly state that he can't run or work for any sort of online gambling site again.

    So he can't go back to being "Chairman of Seals", nor can he continue to promote or be the face of SWC in any way. I suppose he could continue running SWC in the shadows (as I believe he's been doing for the past 2 months), claiming that someone else actually owns it. But what is that going to get him? People played on Seals because Micon attached it to his name and identity. If the message presented to the public about SWC is, "I don't run this anymore, but you can totally trust the anonymous Euro guys who do", it's never going to grow, and will eventually dwindle to nothing. Even if some people understand that he really still runs it in a wink-wink-nudge-nudge way, that won't be enough to get any kind of real traffic there.

    Plus, he would be violating probation, and I'm not sure he'd risk that just for the relatively small income SWC will bring him.

    It's possible that he's willing to just give it all up, and plans to live on whatever bitcoin he has saved, or perhaps he thinks he will return to poker and start making money again like it's Party Poker in 2004. But I'm not sure if his plans are to return to the US and just live out a normal life. Recall he planned to move to Antigua before all of this went down. It's possible that he just wants to beat this (so he can return to the US at will without worrying about being arrested), but will live abroad and try to run gambling sites from those places, maybe this time being more in the shadows.
    Micon may only be facing about a year in state prison, however Micon will probably get 3 years probation/parole.
    How likely could Micon violate probation? very likely I'd say.

    They may not allow Micon to gamble or play in poker tournaments.
    They may force Micon to get mental health counseling.
    Micon will be forced to take lie detector tests.
    They will force Micon to get a real job, they can order regular drug testing, not allow him to travel out of the state and impose another restriction like a 8:00pm curfew at night.

    A better deal for Micon may be 2 or 3 years in state prison with no probation/parole.


    Ummm....no. Highly unlikely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muck Ficon View Post
    Micon will be forced to take lie detector tests.

    Ummm....no. Highly unlikely.
    It's true, confirmed through a 3rd party who is on probation/parole in Nevada.

    If he doesn't agree to take a lie detector test, probation officer can put him back in prison.

    If he lies on lie detector test, probation officer can put him back in prison.

    The fact is that Micon is fucked.



     
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    If everything you guys are saying is true, I'm shocked he's coming back to the states.

    Unless he's just sitting on a fortune and is willing to ride this all out and then just live comfortably on his money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheXFactor View Post
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    Micon will be forced to take lie detector tests.

    Ummm....no. Highly unlikely.
    It's true, confirmed through a 3rd party who is on probation/parole in Nevada.

    If he doesn't agree to take a lie detector test, probation officer can put him back in prison.

    If he lies on lie detector test, probation officer can put him back in prison.

    The fact is that Micon is fucked.


    Never heard of that. I've got a buddy who's a lawyer, I'll have to ask him how common that is. Guess it varies by state and the crime committed.

     
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    I got a bad feeling about this.
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    I think he will get probation with a suspended sentence that he will have to answer to if he fucks up his probation, where not talking huge criminal here so he will most likely get unsupervised probation "check in once a month and fill out a report once a month ,This situation is not a huge as it has been made out to be,No one got hurt there is no broken bones there is no minors involved with the crime there is no robberies or grand theft ,Micon is not a repeat offender or any kind of offender much less,Micon was seals messenger not seals owner there is not a shitload of $ involved .I don't have much of a opinion on the outcome cause it wont effect my daily life but having alittle sense on what may happen dont hurt.

    I have known micon had a deal on the table for a while now ,I do not know the details outside of it supposedly being probation ,I 100% will not say how i know so don't ask but I will put my $ down vs anyone's that says he don't do a day in jail.
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    I do think there is a good chance for a secret indictment though
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    I got a bad feeling about this.
    Of course you do.

    Where did the plea deal come from? Everyone already picking the final score of this thing like another Simpdog contest.

    He who represents himself has a fool for a client. No, that's not it. But the client is a fool & a wildcard.

    Micon wants to face charges and they are expediting things so this can happen.

    Meanwhile SWCPoker.eu is still running. Yeah, this is a clean case and just needs a signature.

    Chesnoff will happily keep the meter flipped and allow Micon to debate anything he likes. He may think his client is a fool but his fiat is green.

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    There is just so much lack of logic going on in this thread.

    Plea downs usually work well because you plea to a lower tier charge (think possession instead of distribution). In this case there is no lower tier unless they just totally change the charge. If he pleas to the original charge state law mandates he be sentenced to a year minimum.

    No way in hell Chesnoff lets his client come back plea down and then get waxed with another charge. One, he is too smart for that, two the state doesn't want to fuck with someone who can make their life a living hell.

    I would not be surprised if Micon takes a lesser punishment and agrees to work to identify the main owner of Seals in exchange for future immunity.

    I am guessing Micon will be getting the fuck out of LV as soon as his probation/time is up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    I got a bad feeling about this.
    Of course you do.

    Where did the plea deal come from? Everyone already picking the final score of this thing like another Simpdog contest.

    He who represents himself has a fool for a client. No, that's not it. But the client is a fool & a wildcard.

    Micon wants to face charges and they are expediting things so this can happen.

    Meanwhile SWCPoker.eu is still running. Yeah, this is a clean case and just needs a signature.

    Chesnoff will happily keep the meter flipped and allow Micon to debate anything he likes. He may think his client is a fool but his fiat is green.

    I seriously 100% have no idea what youre trying to say with this post. Please don't get weird and personal about it, I just cant understand what youre saying here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abrown83 View Post

    No way in hell Chesnoff lets his client come back plea down and then get waxed with another charge. One, he is too smart for that, two the state doesn't want to fuck with someone who can make their life a living hell.

    Chesnoff: This plea only works if there is nothing lurking on those hard drives thats going to be grounds for another indictment. So tell me now Micon, are we good?
    Micon: [ bong hit noises ] Bro we are good, no worries.
    Harddrives: [ evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence evidence ]

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    I got a bad feeling about this.
    Of course you do.

    Where did the plea deal come from? Everyone already picking the final score of this thing like another Simpdog contest.

    He who represents himself has a fool for a client. No, that's not it. But the client is a fool & a wildcard.

    Micon wants to face charges and they are expediting things so this can happen.

    Meanwhile SWCPoker.eu is still running. Yeah, this is a clean case and just needs a signature.

    Chesnoff will happily keep the meter flipped and allow Micon to debate anything he likes. He may think his client is a fool but his fiat is green.

    Dumb like a Fox...... Foolish? Sure, but don't cast the first stone. It's cliche hour here nearing 5.p.m. on PFA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Of course you do.

    Where did the plea deal come from? Everyone already picking the final score of this thing like another Simpdog contest.

    He who represents himself has a fool for a client. No, that's not it. But the client is a fool & a wildcard.

    Micon wants to face charges and they are expediting things so this can happen.

    Meanwhile SWCPoker.eu is still running. Yeah, this is a clean case and just needs a signature.

    Chesnoff will happily keep the meter flipped and allow Micon to debate anything he likes. He may think his client is a fool but his fiat is green.

    I seriously 100% have no idea what youre trying to say with this post. Please don't get weird and personal about it, I just cant understand what youre saying here.
    I reread the post and can see where you might think I lumped you in with this magical plea deal discussion. You never went down this path. I can see how you would feel slighted. Idiotic line of thinking.

    I was just sharing the same bad feeling and taking shots at the rest.

    There is much to be argued and there will be a trial. There are lots of moving parts here including the new SWC.

    Who the fuck knows what any given judge will decide for sentencing.

    Loved NBH's post.

     
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    What on earth is giving you two the bad feeling?

    If he agrees to a plea it's going to be in his favor, as compared to other alternatives, that is if he gives a crap about coming back to the States.
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