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    I'm sure that Micon, his daughter and wife will love living in Antigua for the rest of their lives.

    Antigua - black 91%, mixed 4.4%, white 1.7%, other 2.9%



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    I thought I would put this out there even though I don't honestly believe it myself. I think everyone, including most of us here and on the radio show, picked up on the fact that the Seal presser released the other day really went out of it's way to say that Micon never had control of the money or any other "real responsibility" at/with Seals.

    Could it be that the rest of the company is over in Europe and they are just throwing out bullshit to help Micon and possibly themselves? If Micon has any pull what-so-ever at Seals anymore there is no way he would let that presser come out reading the way it did unless he was in on it.

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    Themselves, yes. Micon, no.

    The focus is more upon what they'll be doing (and not be doing) going forward, and you have to really look at it closely to pick out the parts indicating that he didn't hold the money. It wasn't even stated clearly enough to ever be used as a legal defense.

    To me this looks like they were making it clear to the NGC and other law enforcement bodies reading it that:

    1) They are paying people out, and this wasn't a scam

    2) Everyone but Micon is closing shop immediately and won't be offering any more bitcoin gambling, nor will they be supporting Micon's new venture in any way

    So that release mainly looks like something they put out to mitigate their own damages. Since they control sealswithclubs.eu (and always have, apparently), I don't even think Micon had a choice about what they wrote. Not saying he did or didn't approve the statement (I don't know), but I'm pretty sure they were adamant about getting those two important points out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRK Star View Post
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    Prob not too hard to guess my four.

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    Hey Druff, the first 3 seconds of this video will tell you how the pronounce the word "Antigua"... Will save you sounding like a bit of an ass the next time you mention it on radio..

    It is NOT "Ant-wie-ga"

    Rest of the video isn't bad either.






    edit- @2.30 the bitch pronounces it similar to the way Druff did...

    So maybe it's me that's the ass.... but I've never heard it said like that before.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FRANKRIZZO View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cmoney View Post

    Let's not forget though that Calvin Ayre is also Canadian, and as far as I can tell, not running from Canadian authorities. I have to imagine that it is harder to grab a Canadian than your own Citizen in these situations.

    Also, Calvin is rich as fuck and Micon is not.
    Could very well be. Originally they said hardware failure and would be back up soon probably to give Micon time to maneuver. If they gave out misinformation initially why couldn't they do it with press release? Meant to quote daly on my 8th beer.
    They actually did come back up for a few hours after the initial outage. Given what hdev was saying in lobby chat when they came up and when he announced he was taking it back down, it seems like they actually thought it was a hardware problem at first. I don't really know what to make of the few days after they went down, they were talking about stuff being back on twitter but also put up a cashout form and the wording on the website made it seem like they might not be coming up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    There are a number of reasons to question viability of a new site and how stable it will be. However, I think questioning Micon's integrity as it pertains to keeping coins safe is unfair. I think he would do everything in his power to make sure players funds are safe. The question becomes is his new team as competent as his last team to make this happen.
    No one who has met Micon would question his integrity (ok almost no one).

    The X factor here is the 'new people' hes bringing aboard. We saw this pattern repeat itself on the old silk road sites; one day, bitcoins vanish, and some dude the site operators trusted is no longer responding to emails/phone calls.

    With Micon shopping for an entirely new team to replace Seals, I think one would have to make quite a leap of faith to deposit btc on a site that:

    1) has totally unknown elements hired under duress responsible for the money
    2) absolutely 100% has not had the time or money to hire 3rd party penetration testers, much less code auditers
    3) there is no indication they have any perimeter defense solutions (IDP/IDS) in place to mitigate emerging threats.

    Between the site getting hacked by Russians and one of Micon's new superteam enabling Godmode by sniffing network traffic, tailing logs, or snooping processes.... I consider any deposits to that site to be critically endangered pending a responsible disclosure from the chairman detailing what progress has been made on all those fronts.
    I bet the guy who advertised his poker deposit cards on NWP would question micon's integrity, after micon stole his idea and started his own version of the same thing

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    SwC Poker @SwCPoker · 10m 10 minutes ago
    Tomorrow is the day... #SwCReboot 2/26/2015 #RIPSealsWithClubs 2011-2015 Never Forget

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    SwC Poker @SwCPoker · 10m 10 minutes ago
    Tomorrow is the day... #SwCReboot 2/26/2015 #RIPSealsWithClubs 2011-2015 Never Forget
    Nevada residents get a 200% match for first deposit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Nevada residents get a 200% match for first deposit?
    LOL, the site is on Micon's own dime now so that ain't happening.

    He's basically gave the finger to the Nevada Gaming Commission with this relaunch so he better not step foot in the state and probably the entire country again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeerAndPoker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    Nevada residents get a 200% match for first deposit?
    LOL, the site is on Micon's own dime now so that ain't happening.

    He's basically gave the finger to the Nevada Gaming Commission with this relaunch so he better not step foot in the state and probably the entire country again.

    Soooo, odds he got his gaming license from Antigua?

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    so blake just made a slam dunk post in IST...

    Quote Originally Posted by micon
    I am not a lawyer, but can speculate the licencing requirements for a bitcoin poker site that does no business outside of the bitcoin protocol may be different from traditional fiat-based online gambling sites.

    Some don't consider bitcoin money, and some do. The protocol is outside all other banking systems, operating in it's own network. I have a team working hard to determine the course of action from here regarding license requirements. It is truly uncharted territory.
    basically blake pointed out that micon just told the antiguan government that since bitcoin doesnt exist within the 'banking system' his business is except from their licensing requirements.


    because that line definitely worked out great for him in vegas.

     
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    micon is literally one of the biggest idiots ever

    Nitrogen Sports is operating in Costa Rica exclusively with anon BTC transactions offering all sorts of gaming including poker. Owners and operators are largely anonymous. I've only seen one guy's name attached to the operation. All players are anonymous. Seems like there's no issues there with any of the other gaming issues brought up by operating in Antigua.

    SWC already has a brand and following, why not just go to CR, disappear, and reopen SWC. Fuck, add degen sports betting to the repertoire if you want. Just don't be the Youtube sensation and degen king Bryan Micon. Lay low man...the US just seriously targets this shit with a fucking vengeance.

    CR certainly isn't extraditing Americans involved in gaming. Frankly, you could collect millions in deposits and stiff everyone and nobody's doing shit.

    And seriously, this whole gaming personality BS that micon is going with is just straight up dumb. Do you know who the owner of 5 Dimes is? It's Tony right? Who the fuck is Tony? Doing Youtube videos? No. But we all know exactly who Bryan Micon is. Just seriously so fucking stupid.

    Plus CR is a fucking cool ass place. The Caribbean sucks.

     
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    Because weed is more legal in Antigua

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    so blake just made a slam dunk post in IST...

    Quote Originally Posted by micon
    I am not a lawyer, but can speculate the licencing requirements for a bitcoin poker site that does no business outside of the bitcoin protocol may be different from traditional fiat-based online gambling sites.

    Some don't consider bitcoin money, and some do. The protocol is outside all other banking systems, operating in it's own network. I have a team working hard to determine the course of action from here regarding license requirements. It is truly uncharted territory.
    basically blake pointed out that micon just told the antiguan government that since bitcoin doesnt exist within the 'banking system' his business is except from their licensing requirements.


    because that line definitely worked out great for him in vegas.

    Druff already saw that post
    It's hilarious that we as a society think everyone can be a dr, a lawyer, an engineer. Some people are just fucking stupid. Why can't we just accept that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    so blake just made a slam dunk post in IST...

    Quote Originally Posted by micon
    I am not a lawyer, but can speculate the licencing requirements for a bitcoin poker site that does no business outside of the bitcoin protocol may be different from traditional fiat-based online gambling sites.

    Some don't consider bitcoin money, and some do. The protocol is outside all other banking systems, operating in it's own network. I have a team working hard to determine the course of action from here regarding license requirements. It is truly uncharted territory.
    basically blake pointed out that micon just told the antiguan government that since bitcoin doesnt exist within the 'banking system' his business is except from their licensing requirements.


    because that line definitely worked out great for him in vegas.

    these antiguan observer news stories were mind-blowingly stupid on micon's part.

    he's admitting that he's now the sole owner of seals with clubs, that it will be up and running within days and that he's basically living in antigua.

    he's mistaken if he thinks that the fact that the server is physically located in romania will be enough to exempt him from getting an antiguan gaming license. a hell of a lot more goes into the analysis than just the physical location of the server. like if all your key employees (i.e. micon) are in antigua, antigua will surely take the position that the business is operating and must be licensed there. the fact that seals with clubs is not licensed in romania or any other jurisdiction makes his argument look even more ridiculous.

    micon's basically admitting that he wants to use antigua to shelter him from the US, yet he's not giving antigua anything in return. just fucking idiotic.

     
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    This is going to end incredibly badly for him. I feel pretty awful for his wife and kid.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they interrogated the shit out of Micon.

    They probably told him, tell us everything and you go home today and we'll put in a good word for you.

    Refuse to cooperate, your going to jail and our case is a slam dunk and you'll get x amount of years. Do you want your daughter only being able to visit you in a prison?

    He may be in Antigua to hide from his business partners and not the govt. Maybe both, who knows.

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