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That's like asking if you can say with a straight face that Manny Pacquiao's skills are on par with Floyd Mayweather. Klitschko fights an entirely different style than Ali did. You can't say that one guys skill set was "better" when they were so very different. I can tell you that on top of being an insane amount stronger, that Klitschko is also better defensively than Ali was.

Ali was great, but he wasn't some unbeatable force (not implying that's what you're saying at all). I think he beats a guy like Mike Tyson, but loses horribly to a guy like Wladimir Klitschko. Lennox Lewis would beat Ali 10 times out of 10.
You and Vegas both keep ignoring my main point.....The ONLY reason Klitchko or Lewis would have a chance at beating an ALI is because they outweigh him by 100 pounds, NOT because they are better fighters. I will concede some that I have a harder time giving Klitchko any credit for the heavyweight division has been a total joke for years. Even now its like Saturday morning wrestling with this contrived fake storyline of Shannon Briggs following Klitschko around to build up some bogus rivalry. Briggs was never that good and now he is 42 and over the hill.
I'm not ignoring the point. I told you, Klitschko is stronger and has better defense. He uses his reach to beat guys. It's not like he uses his size to lean on them and wear them down. Taller guys with reach get beat all the time. Lewis, too. They use their strengths. Ali was fast and had great footwork. He didn't have great defense or a lot of power and would get hit too much.

They have about 30 pounds on Ali. Weighing more doesn't just automatically equal winning a fight.