jsearles and Chinamaniac debate about the value of his WSOP pieces

[Steve-O]

Congratulations folks, you are now reading the most replied to thread in PFA history!

Steve, I agree that intent is of the utmost importance. I intend/ed to win a bet regarding if Vegas could find posts containing misuses of "those two words."

You analogy is again poor. Please respond to my analogy. If you offered me $100 and told me to get a picture of "those two having sex" isnt it implied that you mean together? When you use a phrase such as that you cant then later seperate the two.

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct, but with 15 posts before it clarifying what the spirit of the wager is than it would be clear.

I tried to see if a day in between would have you come to your senses, but since it hasn't (and you ared still somehow making the claim you won the bet) I'll once again bow out of the conversation, since I'm making more progress debating my desk.

You continue to make the salacious 15 posts before claim and that is simply a fabrication. There were 3 total posts discussing the bet before Vegas made his now infamous offer. Just because there are other posts in this thread, they literally had nothing to do with this bet.

Sorry if I was hyperbolic, but one post or 5,000, the intent was there. Fin

You lose Steve! You said it yourself:

If that is the only statement than either interpretation is correct

In the 3 posts there was no discussion at all regarding one use or multiple uses. Vegas denounced me, I made a million dollar offer, it was reduced to $500, and then he made the offer. By your own account, based on the facts, EITHER interpretation is correct.

First off, why am I doing this???????

but here goes: There were multiple posts leading up to, and after, the one you keep citing, so there is context and lets look at that shall we? ok.

Vegas' claim:

Trust me, up until my last post you didn't know the difference between then and than.

YOUR initial offer of the bet was a "you can find one instance where you used it correctly for $1 million" vegas then responds with the post you keep citing:

I have a better bet for you... How about I find, lets say 15 posts, where you have used those two words incorrectly? I will bet you $1000. Booked?

To which you respond with:

25 incorrect usages for $250 with a panel of 3 impartial judges to rule on the validity of each usage and it's merit. Would you book that bet than?

***why are you negotiating up to 25 instances if you think the bet is for both terms in the same post; it seems 15 instances is impossible or even 1???***
Vegas' response:

Ok, sorry, haven't had time to respond to this.

I did a search on then and than and come up empty, it says it is too common, which means I will have to search through all of your posts, which is a lot of fucking work. Also considering I will have to read all of your drivel I don't think $250 is enough for 25 posts. I will go with 15 posts for $250, and frankly what does the 10 extra posts mean anyway... 15 is a damn good sample size IMO. If you insist on 25 I will go for $500. So, your choice, either 15 for $250 or 25 for $500, your call, I'm the one taking most of the risk here considering you seem confident I am wrong.

Also, LOL @ 3 impartial judges... I'll give you your 3 fucking judges... THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE you mope. If you insist though, I nominate Druff, Tony B and maybe this Steve-O- guy. Fair enough?


One last thing... No editing of your posts prior to yesterday's date. If I go back and see a post from March that was just edited today, you owe me regardless if I produce the 15 or 25 errors. I doubt you would do that, but I just have to state the obv.

After you said you were "clowning" vegas he responded with:

So either admit that you simply are a borderline retard who doesn't know the difference between then and than, or accept the terms of the bet that you proposed to begin with.

You then posted:

I will take one of two wagers. The 25 for $500 or a different bet. Produce 30 such misuses in 48 hrs and I will never post again. Otherwise you ship me $500.

This is followed by a little back and forth about the number of posts and whether it is PFA or DD and PFA, but never is the notion that both words need to be present in a single post discussed. you then posted this saying the bet was booked:

25 posts but 15 have to be from here. $500. You have 48 hrs

AFTER a side discussion with Crowe Diddly you then posted this to HIM, with the first implicit mention of your new terms:

Both words misused in the same post? $100 for 12 in an hr. Go!

Crowe responds with:

No sir, not both words in the same post; one word used incorrectly in a place where the other word should be used. No silly angles here. 12 cases where you use then OR than incorrectly, when the other word should be used. Is this agreeable?

And this is when you suddenly change the nature of your bet with Vegas (publicly anyway):

Nope, because that's a different bet then Vegas and I have. Our bet is for both words in the same post. His words, not mine. I merely accepted his terms

If this is the language you are using tgo book a bet with Crowe why weren't you as specific with Vegas????