Quote Originally Posted by tony bagadonuts View Post
Quote Originally Posted by DirtyB View Post

Please explain why the murder rates in Arizona, New Mexico, Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, South Carolina, and Tennessee are higher than Illinois' despite having more lax gun laws.
Freakonomics style, don't shoot the messenger. FYI, the national average for hispanic or latino is 17% and for black it's 13%.

Arizona - Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2012 (b) 30.2%
New Mexico - Hispanic or Latino, percent, 2012 (b) 47.0%
Alabama - Black or African American alone, percent, 2012 (a) 26.5%
Louisiana - Black or African American alone, percent, 2012 (a) 32.4%
Mississippi - Black or African American alone, percent, 2012 (a) 37.4%
Missouri - Willie stole
South Carolina - Black or African American alone, percent, 2012 (a) 28.0%
Tennessee - Arrested Development obv
I would argue that it's not a causal relationship, but at least you're citing data.

What my cited data concluded is that concealed carry laws have absolutely no relationship with crime or murder rates, and that shortbus is entirely full of shit.