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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Ben Shapiro is legit annoyed with Trump but has to say it in code.

    It's not just about the Qatar plane thing. He's been putting out a lot of subtely hostile language about Trump during most of this second term. The way he phrases it is along the lines of, "We can't have any distractions, if we want to get the agenda we all voted for. The left and media will jump on anything they can, so it's not smart to give them ammunition."

    I agree with Shapiro. I liked Trump's first term, especially the first 3 years of it. I voted for him this time around, though not in the primary. I find myself scratching my head regarding a lot of things he's doing. Some of his actions have been very positive, but there's really been a lot of WTF moments in these first 4 months.

    The continued follies involving the $TRUMP coin are among those things I simply can't understand if Trump wants a serious Presidency.

    This is why we'd have been better off with Meatball Ron.

    the republican congress is a feckless lot. very little of substance will change. this four year stent is just a pause before we get back on the tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    Little Ben was crying about airplane bribes

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    I saw Loomer, Levin, and Shapiro all say the same. Hard to miss the common connection between all 3 and why they hate Trump cozying up to a country that supports terror groups.

    In Shapiro’s case, he does break ranks with Trump occasionally.

    The other two though are 24/7 cult members until he takes a clear bribe from the Muslims. They are only angry when he isn’t crazy enough for them. Not MAGA enough.

    Then they suddenly have a problem with this.

    If the plane was from Russia they’d be cheering it.

    i had to look up whether Loomer was a jew. the other two wear it on their sleeves. every opinion they voice is first run through the how does this affect israel gauntlet.

     
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    The sad thing is that Trump could have been a very popular President -- at least with those among the center and right -- if he just governed like he did the first term, with some other badly needed reforms added onto it.

    The public is mostly behind him with the social reforms -- ending DEI, ending men in women's sports, stopping gender transitions of minors, forcing college campuses to treat anti-Semitism the same way they treat racism/homophobia, getting wokeness out of the military, etc.

    The public was especially behind him regarding immigration reform -- something he did fairly well in his first term, and which Biden completely fucked up.

    Most of this stuff is even appealing to older moderate liberals like Bill Maher.

    The public is even willing to allow Trump some "creativity" with foreign policy, as he was effective with his moves the first time around, whereas Biden and Obama were a disaster, and even Bush made plenty of blunders.

    Instead, Trump is doing too many bizarre and wacky things, the most major of which being the tariffs, which basically nobody likes. He got involved with that $TRUMP coin, which was a borderline scam in the first place, and now is doubling down on it rather than trying to make everyone forget about it.

    The immigration policy suffers from a combination of haphazard execution and poor communication.

    DOGE has been largely picking at small issues and not resulted in any meaningful savings for the federal government, which has a gigantic budget. It's also declared an unnecessary war on federal workers, while not really addressing the main issue -- getting rid of the bad ones, which is surprisingly difficult under the current structure.

    Trump unnecessarily picked a fight with Canada, and likely caused the liberal to win their most recent election.

    There really has been a lot of unnecessary fail and unforced errors.

    Oh... and too many wackos and unqualified people have been appointed to cabinet and other important positions. Last time around, he appointed mostly qualified people, but felt frustrated when they repeatedly had conflicts with him. I don't blame him for wanting to appoint people friendly to him, but they also need to be intelligent, sane, rational, and qualified. Many of these appointees were bad picks.

    That's not to say I think we'd be better off if Kamala won. That would've been its own disaster in a different way.

    But the Trump 2nd term I hoped I'd see and the one were getting are two very different things. It's too bad, because he released a series of videos in 2024 stating what his plans were, and most of thme made a lot of sense. What we're seeing here is quite different than that.

     
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    Trump is lifting sanctions off Syria.

    Why you may ask?


    Because they told him they would build a Trump Tower in Syria


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...amp/rcna206471

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
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    I am of the opinion the plane is a nothing burger and mostly serves as a distraction from the much more massive shenanigans going on between Trump and the Gulf states.

    That being said, I am hopefully optimistic that the end result of all this bribery will actually be positive for the US (and probably by association Israel) in the long run. The more the Gulf States are invested in the world economy, the more they will have skin in the game and not want to fuck everything up supporting anti civilizational religious zealots.

    That’s beyond hopefully optimistic bordering on full blown naïveté. I’ve heard some variation of that argument for 30 years and it’s always laughable. Qatar is a slave state where everyone relevant is already fantastically wealthy. They approach these meetings with the same mindset we do from the opposite end. They assume as long as they spread enough money in politicians pockets they’ll eventually get us to see Israel and the region in the same light they do.

    Given they are dealing with the most self involved and corrupt man alive, it’s a perfect opportunity to test just how much he is willing to sell out Israel. They know he won’t outright abandon them, but they will be looking to take advantage of a unique time when public opinion in the US of Israel is at an all time low on both sides of the political fence to see how far they can chip away at their influence.

    Calling a $400 million bribe that doesn’t stay with the US but transfers to him privately a nothing burger is amazing. True it’s just the tip of the iceberg. None of this is for the benefit of the US or by extension Israel, just to the benefit of Trump personally like always
    Well, when I said it is the tip of the iceberg, I wasn't just referring to Trump. Qatar will bribe anyone who is willing to take the bribe and give them whatever they are asking for for it, and that is a very long list. American universities alone are several billion in that we know about, which means there are probably billions we dont. Several Western nations, including Israel amazingly enough, have some version of a Qatargate scandal. And for every scandal there is probably 50 incidents that were never discovered or were covered up. And this isn't even getting into all the third world nations where accepting bribes for influence is just business as usual, and no media would even bother reporting it.

    In the grand scheme a leader of a democratic nation with checks and balances (so there is only so much he can even promise in return) accepting a $400 million jet (of dubious utility) really is a nothing burger.

    I realize that thinking this will all work out ok is optimistic; but what other choice is there than to hope things work out. I didn't vote for him either time, but enough American people did, so he is the President, whether I like it or not.

    Also, at some point Qatar has to realize if they take things too far wrt Israel it could backfire real bad. Qatar is a real small country, where half the people and much of the wealth are in one city. If they feel it necessary or even as a matter of principle, Israel could make Qatar go completely bye bye.

    Now I dont think we are anywhere close to there now, but it seems like Qatar's goal is to get as close to this point as they can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    The sad thing is that Trump could have been a very popular President -- at least with those among the center and right -- if he just governed like he did the first term, with some other badly needed reforms added onto it.

    The public is mostly behind him with the social reforms -- ending DEI, ending men in women's sports, stopping gender transitions of minors, forcing college campuses to treat anti-Semitism the same way they treat racism/homophobia, getting wokeness out of the military, etc.



    Instead, Trump is doing too many bizarre and wacky things, the most major of which being the tariffs, which basically nobody likes. He got involved with that $TRUMP coin, which was a borderline scam in the first place, and now is doubling down on it rather than trying to make everyone forget about it.



    Trump unnecessarily picked a fight with Canada, and likely caused the liberal to win their most recent election.

    There really has been a lot of unnecessary fail and unforced errors.

    Oh... and too many wackos and unqualified people have been appointed to cabinet and other important positions. Last time around, he appointed mostly qualified people, but felt frustrated when they repeatedly had conflicts with him. I don't blame him for wanting to appoint people friendly to him, but they also need to be intelligent, sane, rational, and qualified. Many of these appointees were bad picks.
    For the first point, popularity being in the low 30s suggests otherwise, or charitiably the things you agree with are not enough to outweigh the fuck ups.

    As you've also pointed out, he can somewhat improve his legacy either by under promising, over delivering and notchanging plans every few days.

    He either needs to pick things up for the rest of presidency, or resign when things are better AND leave Vance holding the bag when it turns to custard.

    He can still weasel somewhat of a win with "Things were better under Trump".

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover. View Post
    Trump is lifting sanctions off Syria.

    Why you may ask?


    Because they told him they would build a Trump Tower in Syria


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...amp/rcna206471
    Truly nuts. Country ran by Al Qaeda/Isis. How dumb are Trump’s Christian rubes? Syria is literally killing off the few remaining Christians left and these incredibly dumb people are all excited on Twitter because Trump got a parade. Well of course. He is their dream. A guy who can simply be bought off and has zero understanding of the region.
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    The libs are pissed, the market is up, Trump is doing his job.

    Yea, it’s that simple.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardBrodiesCombover. View Post
    Trump is lifting sanctions off Syria.

    Why you may ask?


    Because they told him they would build a Trump Tower in Syria


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbc...amp/rcna206471
    Dick Head wrong again. His unabashed hatred of success continues.

    In a readout of the pivotal Wednesday meeting for Syria, Trump encouraged al-Sharaa to sign onto the Abraham Accords with Israel, tell all foreign terrorists to leave Syria, deport "Palestinian terrorists," help the U.S. prevent the resurgence of ISIS and assume charge of ISIS detention centers in northeast Syria.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Oh... and too many wackos and unqualified people have been appointed to cabinet and other important positions. Last time around, he appointed mostly qualified people, but felt frustrated when they repeatedly had conflicts with him. I don't blame him for wanting to appoint people friendly to him, but they also need to be intelligent, sane, rational, and qualified.
    Therein lies the rub. These people don’t really exist anymore. Sycophants aren’t typically intelligent, sane, rational, and qualified. They may exhibit a couple of those qualities but not all of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheesfaced View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Oh... and too many wackos and unqualified people have been appointed to cabinet and other important positions. Last time around, he appointed mostly qualified people, but felt frustrated when they repeatedly had conflicts with him. I don't blame him for wanting to appoint people friendly to him, but they also need to be intelligent, sane, rational, and qualified.
    Therein lies the rub. These people don’t really exist anymore. Sycophants aren’t typically intelligent, sane, rational, and qualified. They may exhibit a couple of those qualities but not all of them.

    its wild because from the right angle its almost as if hes decided to tear the machine down and rebuild it without the rot, which lets be honest is an interesting/noble cause. and his decision to place soulless grifting morons at all levels could be less about sycophants and narcissism than him simply wanting the least friction between the present and his goals.

    where that falls apart tho is when he does things like let elon dictate policies, deal to himself from the bottom of the deck, and just generally obliterate functionality in essential government sectors. whatever elon was before he got addicted to ketamine and HGH, this version of him is an incompetent disaster. so its hard to give trump the benefit of the doubt ultimately.

    and the thing is, the people hes making an enemy of, they are people who hire for positions that are decidedly middle class or better. you think a manager at AWS is going to hire someone with TDS memes on their facebook profile? yeah not so much. and all those dudes who are locked out of six figure salary tech roles are going to be punching in at 8am for their shifts at the fucking iphone factory if they are lucky.

    so hoo nelly trump better stick the landing hard in the next 3 years because theres no one to carry his torch and pendulum is probably going to swing the other way pretty fuckin hard.

     
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    inspired to check on Curtis Yarvin and see what grade he’s giving Trump to date for following his plan.

    It’s like he had a crystal ball

    FDR served a 3rd term so ….

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tellafriend View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Ben Shapiro is legit annoyed with Trump but has to say it in code.

    It's not just about the Qatar plane thing. He's been putting out a lot of subtely hostile language about Trump during most of this second term. The way he phrases it is along the lines of, "We can't have any distractions, if we want to get the agenda we all voted for. The left and media will jump on anything they can, so it's not smart to give them ammunition."

    I agree with Shapiro. I liked Trump's first term, especially the first 3 years of it. I voted for him this time around, though not in the primary. I find myself scratching my head regarding a lot of things he's doing. Some of his actions have been very positive, but there's really been a lot of WTF moments in these first 4 months.

    The continued follies involving the $TRUMP coin are among those things I simply can't understand if Trump wants a serious Presidency.

    This is why we'd have been better off with Meatball Ron.

    the republican congress is a feckless lot. very little of substance will change. this four year stent is just a pause before we get back on the tracks.

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    Iran is ready to sign a nuclear deal in exchange for having sanctions lifted, apparently.
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    the republican congress is a feckless lot. very little of substance will change. this four year stent is just a pause before we get back on the tracks.

    I cannot wait for the first Republican politician, seeking top office, to speak against the current administration. Speaking out now, apparently, is too risky. Speaking out come election time is far too late.

    The time is nigh for any red tie wannabe. Golden opportunity
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Iran is ready to sign a nuclear deal in exchange for having sanctions lifted, apparently.
    And you said Trump was interesting and noble. Where is tgull to welcome you to MAGA?

    Trump is doing is a great job. He's trying to solve every problem we have. He's trying to bring peace and prosperity everywhere. I think he picked a fight with the entire world just to let everyone know what's up for the next 4 years.

    China, the EU, Canada, Mexico, Columbia and Harvard University got exactly what they deserved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Iran is ready to sign a nuclear deal in exchange for having sanctions lifted, apparently.
    And you said Trump was interesting and noble. Where is tgull to welcome you to MAGA?

    Trump is doing is a great job. He's trying to solve every problem we have. He's trying to bring peace and prosperity everywhere. I think he picked a fight with the entire world just to let everyone know what's up for the next 4 years.

    China, the EU, Canada, Mexico, Columbia and Harvard University got exactly what they deserved.

    this post alone would have gotten you short bus'd back when this was a functional community.


    i honestly dont know if i want to be associated with learning disabled people anymore. like its really at a tipping point for me.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post

    And you said Trump was interesting and noble. Where is tgull to welcome you to MAGA?

    Trump is doing is a great job. He's trying to solve every problem we have. He's trying to bring peace and prosperity everywhere. I think he picked a fight with the entire world just to let everyone know what's up for the next 4 years.

    China, the EU, Canada, Mexico, Columbia and Harvard University got exactly what they deserved.

    this post alone would have gotten you short bus'd back when this was a functional community.


    i honestly dont know if i want to be associated with learning disabled people anymore. like its really at a tipping point for me.
    Don't give up now, Sonatine. You people are supposed to be welcoming of diversity of thought. I'm not saying I like the free plane or the way these trade issues were handled or the unsettled war with the Russians. I do like the idea of peace with the Syrians and Iranians though and I like it that he's trying to solve the Russian issue. We'll know when the mid-terms come whether or not he was ultimately a success or failure. Until then I give him the benefit of the doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post


    this post alone would have gotten you short bus'd back when this was a functional community.


    i honestly dont know if i want to be associated with learning disabled people anymore. like its really at a tipping point for me.
    Don't give up now, Sonatine. You people are supposed to be welcoming of diversity of thought. I'm not saying I like the free plane or the way these trade issues were handled or the unsettled war with the Russians. I do like the idea of peace with the Syrians and Iranians though and I like it that he's trying to solve the Russian issue. We'll know when the mid-terms come whether or not he was ultimately a success or failure. Until then I give him the benefit of the doubt.
    Nothing he ever does would be enough for the crazies on here. No clue why you treat them with respect. The left is human garbage worried about their own self interest in having a country where the lazy are rewarded and success is punished.

    Fuck fat ass Tine sitting on it daily collecting from the taxpayers to survive. Without Druff providing this forum he would have no reason to live. No family, no real friends it’s a miserable life he leads.

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    For 25 years China ignored American requests to open up their markets to our products. China shined us on. And shined us on. And shined us on. We ran huge trade deficits. Then Trump bitch slaps them with high tariffs. The chinks talked tough but by six weeks they crumbled. No more barriers to american products and the tariffs are back to where they were. He used tariffs to beat those bastards into submission. And it worked.

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