***OFFICIAL RUSSIA/UKRAINE WAR*** thread

[mickeycrimm]

I’m confused. I thought Trump was going to end the war on day one.

It didn't confuse me. I knew it was unrealistic and said so right here weeks ago. The russians are resolute that they will never leave the 4 eastern provinces of Ukraine. They are resolute that Ukraine will never join NATO. UKRAINE IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO RUSSIA'S NATIONAL SECURITY. No threats by Trump to continue to re-arm Ukraine will scare the russians.

Cracks are starting to appear in the NATO armor. Yugoslavia and Croatia now have big problems with Ukraine. The conservatives are now the most popular party in the UK, it won't be long until they take over. Same thing is happening in Germany. The EU is buying russian oil from India and Turkey so they can say they aren't importing oil from Russia. They know that in the long run they are fucked without Russian oil.

We'll see what Trump does when Ukraine needs to re-arm again. Nothing NATO can do will get the Russians to abandon the occupied territories. The only way to peace is for Ukraine to stand down.

If Trump really wants peace in Ukraine he'll have to put a squeeze play on Zelenskey, not Putin.

[joe croupier]

The one thing most people forget these days about war is it's all about the money and greed, war dogs is a classic example of how it can happen. War creates a lot of profit for people, very sad but very very true.

[mickeycrimm]

The one thing most people forget these days about war is it's all about the money and greed, war dogs is a classic example of how it can happen. War creates a lot of profit for people, very sad but very very true.

Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex 65 years ago.

During Vietnam the hawks told us if we lose the Russians will be over here next, a typical “boogie man going to get you” tactic. We lost. Not only did the Russians not come here, they left the eastern block by 1991. Now it’s the Ukraine War and hawks telling us if Russians win they will invade NATO. There’s that darned “boogie man going to get you” argument again.

NATO represents 60% of global military power. Russia, with just 5%, don’t make much of a boogie man.

[Orko]

Just think, Elon made enough money in 2 weeks to pay for the Ukraine war. Idk how he made so much money since all his brands are getting blackballed., everyone's saying he did tho.

[joe croupier]

The one thing most people forget these days about war is it's all about the money and greed, war dogs is a classic example of how it can happen. War creates a lot of profit for people, very sad but very very true.

Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex 65 years ago.

During Vietnam the hawks told us if we lose the Russians will be over here next, a typical “boogie man going to get you” tactic. We lost. Not only did the Russians not come here, they left the eastern block by 1991. Now it’s the Ukraine War and hawks telling us if Russians win they will invade NATO. There’s that darned “boogie man going to get you” argument again.

NATO represents 60% of global military power. Russia, with just 5%, don’t make much of a boogie man.

Seriously jokes aside, I have no idea what you just said, I never vote or follow politics as I think it's all bullshit, war is bullshit but it's got less over the centuries, It was only 400 years ago the whole world was at war with each other to conquer everyone, It was normal to get up in the morning and go to war, it was actually a job !!


That been said, the world has got smarter over the decades, most are united with just a few wars starting basically for money or greed, nothing to do with being the next genghis khan.





Intelligent evolution is a real thing, the world's humans are getting smarter .................

[mickeycrimm]

Eisenhower warned us about the military industrial complex 65 years ago.

During Vietnam the hawks told us if we lose the Russians will be over here next, a typical “boogie man going to get you” tactic. We lost. Not only did the Russians not come here, they left the eastern block by 1991. Now it’s the Ukraine War and hawks telling us if Russians win they will invade NATO. There’s that darned “boogie man going to get you” argument again.

NATO represents 60% of global military power. Russia, with just 5%, don’t make much of a boogie man.

Seriously jokes aside, I have no idea what you just said, I never vote or follow politics as I think it's all bullshit, war is bullshit but it's got less over the centuries, It was only 400 years ago the whole world was at war with each other to conquer everyone, It was normal to get up in the morning and go to war, it was actually a job !!


That been said, the world has got smarter over the decades, most are united with just a few wars starting basically for money or greed, nothing to do with being the next genghis khan.





Intelligent evolution is a real thing, the world's humans are getting smarter .................

Yes, they are getting smarter. Proxy wars are much more intelligent. Let the other guy (Ukrainians) get killed.

[Orko]

Ukranian Journalist of the year now on Zelensky's death list and facing life in prison. Zelensky is way worse than Putin.
See for yourself. Yes he has a hitlist, he's a total tyrant.,


What a stunning interview. So USAID was funding over 90% of Ukraniane journalist, using them to provoke the war w Russia.

She also reveals Zelensky lived in Moscow 8 years and still has a Russian passport. The Ukranians think he's a Russian agent because everything valuable is in Russias hands
and the US and Europe are weaker.

[limitles]

It's Democracy vs Dictatorship
Russia wants the latter but they are proving their inability to force a sovereign next door neighbour to lay down.

Their aggression has backfired
Finland and Sweden joining NATO are examples of this and Ukraine will follow suit eventually

[Orko]

Kalam we need you call your people. Tell Zelensky to quit trying to derail peace. We know what he's doing.
He's a l;il shit talking punk, he needs to make concessiuon not Putin..

[mickeycrimm]

It's Democracy vs Dictatorship
Russia wants the latter but they are proving their inability to force a sovereign next door neighbour to lay down.

Their aggression has backfired
Finland and Sweden joining NATO are examples of this and Ukraine will follow suit eventually

Zelenskey suspended Ukraine elections and is now a Dictator. Putin probably won't sign a peace deal with Zelenskey because Zelenskey is not legal. Elections first then peace deal.

Oh, and the Russians won't fall for a cease fire either because Zelenskey will use it to re-arm and re-organize.

[country978]

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[The Boz]

Love Trump calling out the grifting comedian for not having elections in his country.

He quickly found out he isn’t fucking over Joe and Hunter anymore.

Klitschko should be the President one whatever is left of Ukraine, not this clown.

[1dollarboxcar]

Zelensky is on the outs... he isn't even invited to his own Country's peace talks that Trump and Putin have been debating about..
ie: Trump and Putin are meeting in Saudi Arabia to talk about putting the war to an end... Zelensky wasn't even invited... so what did Zelensky do... he sent some drones up to the old Chernobyl nuclear plant that has a giant shell over it to keep the radiation in... crashed some exploding drones into that fucker to try and create ANOTHER FALSE FLAG trying to say the Russians did it !! i will bring the receipts for that later when i have more time... question is, why didn't any of the Western media report on this of the drones crashing into to the old Chernobyl nuclear plant..???!!!!

[country978]

Zelensky is on the outs... he isn't even invited to his own Country's peace talks that Trump and Putin have been debating about..
ie: Trump and Putin are meeting in Saudi Arabia to talk about putting the war to an end... Zelensky wasn't even invited... so what did Zelensky do... he sent some drones up to the old Chernobyl nuclear plant that has a giant shell over it to keep the radiation in... crashed some exploding drones into that fucker to try and create ANOTHER FALSE FLAG trying to say the Russians did it !! i will bring the receipts for that later when i have more time... question is, why didn't any of the Western media report on this of the drones crashing into to the old Chernobyl nuclear plant..???!!!!

We're having meetings with the Russians in Saudi Arabia and excluding Ukraine and Europe as well? Did North Korea have a place at the table too?

How is Zelenskyy going to be killed? My guess would be poison but there's always the "accidental" 10 story fall or the plane crash.

[Tellafriend]

it will come out that Zelensky/Ukraine had the goods on Hunter/the Big Guy/amongst many others and this is why we were an open checkbook until the end.

remember the dems - the former anti-war party waiving Ukrainian flags on the floor of congress?

but i had not heard the European contributions were all secured loans, and ofc ours aren't. was anyone else aware of this travesty?

we are in so much debt. so shameful. just wo adequate words anymore.

[country978]

it will come out that Zelensky/Ukraine had the goods on Hunter/the Big Guy/amongst many others and this is why we were an open checkbook until the end.

remember the dems - the former anti-war party waiving Ukrainian flags on the floor of congress?

but i had not heard the European contributions were all secured loans, and ofc ours aren't. was anyone else aware of this travesty?

we are in so much debt. so shameful. just wo adequate words anymore.

People still think Trump and his people are to blame for all the world's problems. Somehow, someway people are convinced that Trump is the evil one who is out to make everyone's life worse. Think about the shame this has brought onto our country. So many people are dead, so much damage done, so much water polluted and land destroyed and it was always within the power of our government to see that it didn't happen and they failed us. Again.

Its astonishing when you think about it in the context of American history post WWII. How can anyone say anything we've done militarily in the past 80 years wasn't a mistake? There are so many people and entire countries that have every right to hate us for these things. Trump is bringing us peace and sick people still find ways to hate him.

[Orko]

In Ukraine Orthodox Christianity is getting wrecked, priest tortured left and right etc. Listen to this Jewish guy for a few, he tells how bad it is.

[VaughnP]

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[Orko]

Turns out Bernie is a fraud.
Here's Bernie giving cover for Zelensky, repeating all his lies.
He is against Trump talking w Putin.
Which means he supports more war, more money for ukraine and a new cold war.
He supports us being on the cusp of nuclear war for atleast an entire generation..
If you're against Trump and Putin in talks the above is what you support.


Being againhst peace w Russia is unacceptable.

[mickeycrimm]

German elections today will likely turn the country over to conservatives. Not good for Zelenskyy.