Get the thread bomb PLOL to make your point. It's just not conceivable there is a 11 point swing in a lily white state from 2020 to 2024. Use common sense, Biden was down 19 points in July same pollster. This reminds me of ABC poll the week of the election showing Biden up by 17 in Wisky. Also, Selzer 'retires' after this election, who know what payroll she will be on.