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    The 2022 argument is nonsensical, it was not a Presidential year. In 2016 and 2020, the MSM polling vastly understated Trump. I mean the week before the election the WA Post polling said he was losing WI by 17 points. He lost by under 1%. Only a 16 point miss. Now the AJC in their final poll has Trump up by 4 whereas the WA Post has Harris up by 6. If you don't think the MSM is making a concerted effort to tilt the election I really don't know what to tell you. I just watched MSNBC where they claimed Trump if elected would turn the military on people that disagreed with him. The sad thing is people like Cleatus actually believe that. This tool you referenced is trying his best to justify Trumps lead is fake, because of a 2022 election where he was not on the ballot. Like I said if you believe that you really cannot be helped.

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    Tgull every Major Massive United States City across the land votes Democratic come Election day, why Flyover/Swing States matter so much for Republicans..

    As is Harris will win every Major US City there is period it happens every election, big Cities Vote Blue, without fail in the U.S. now having said that you have the Flyover/Swing States which matter greatly here. You're going to see Harris/Waltz will win every Major Metropolitan City in the U.S. as they do every election, and will this one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrett View Post
    Tgull every Major Massive United States City across the land votes Democratic come Election day, why Flyover/Swing States matter so much for Republicans..

    As is Harris will win every Major US City there is period it happens every election, big Cities Vote Blue, without fail in the U.S. now having said that you have the Flyover/Swing States which matter greatly here. You're going to see Harris/Waltz will win every Major Metropolitan City in the U.S. as they do every election, and will this one too.

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    Tuesday, October 22
    Georgia: Trump vs. Harris
    Atlanta Journal-Constitution
    Trump 47, Harris 43
    Trump
    +4
    Michigan: Trump vs. Harris
    Trafalgar Group (R)
    Trump 46, Harris 44
    Trump
    +2
    New York: Trump vs. Harris
    Siena
    Harris 58, Trump 39
    Harris
    +19
    National: Trump vs. Harris
    TIPP
    Harris 48, Trump 48
    Tie
    National: Trump vs. Harris
    Reuters/Ipsos
    Harris 48, Trump 45
    Harris
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    Who does a final poll 2 weeks before the election? So much can still happen. And 8% undecided? So you as a polling group aren’t going to see if they make up their mind? So theoretically Harris could get 51% IF they all swing her way? Not going to ask why it only goes to 99%, yea I understand but why not show the exact numbers?

    If Trump loses it’s because of all the pre Election Day celebrations by idiots like this guy thinking the polls and betting markets have it locked up.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Boz View Post

    Who does a final poll 2 weeks before the election? So much can still happen. And 8% undecided? So you as a polling group aren’t going to see if they make up their mind? So theoretically Harris could get 51% IF they all swing her way? Not going to ask why it only goes to 99%, yea I understand but why not show the exact numbers?

    If Trump loses it’s because of all the pre Election Day celebrations by idiots like this guy thinking the polls and betting markets have it locked up.
    You don't really know much about polling, obviously. It's very expensive to conduct polls, so most firms cut off polling when early voting starts. The trend is already set, Trump will likely sweep the rustbelt. Whether he holds NC not sure, but it really might likely not matter.

     
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    AZ is absolutely lost for Harris:

    Wow : NEW Arizona early voting update 🔴 Republican: 42.7% (214,915) 🔵 Democratic: 35.9% (180,796) Mail-in ballot return rate: 🔴 Republican: 18% 🔵 Democratic: 16.8%

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgull View Post
    AZ is absolutely lost for Harris:

    Wow : NEW Arizona early voting update �� Republican: 42.7% (214,915) �� Democratic: 35.9% (180,796) Mail-in ballot return rate: �� Republican: 18% �� Democratic: 16.8%

    If trump truly has a lock on Arizona the election has a chance to be called at 9PM.

    Ive seen some writings that are saying North Carolina is all but decided.

    If one of the networks is ready to call PA early or a shocking Virginia we may all be in bed early.


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    The early vote numbers are certainly interesting. But do they signal a change in how Republicans vote or is this an indication of their enthusiasm?

    We won’t know until election night and the morning after but I doubt Dems are feeling good about it.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...ing-democrats/

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    Kamala simply has too much ground to make up. It's effectively over. Trump is going to sweep the rustbelt. She really has no path to victory. I'll post a few more polls in this thread, but its almost a waste of time at this point. The only suspense is the margin of victory for Trump.

     
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
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    AZ is absolutely lost for Harris:

    Wow : NEW Arizona early voting update �� Republican: 42.7% (214,915) �� Democratic: 35.9% (180,796) Mail-in ballot return rate: �� Republican: 18% �� Democratic: 16.8%

    If trump truly has a lock on Arizona the election has a chance to be called at 9PM.

    Ive seen some writings that are saying North Carolina is all but decided.

    If one of the networks is ready to call PA early or a shocking Virginia we may all be in bed early.


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    I think AZ, GA, NC, and NV are just about in the bag for Trump at this point, while Virginia, New Hampshire, and Nebraska 2 are in the bag for Harris.

    Assuming all that is true, and assuming no other surprises, Trump would only need ONE of MI, PA, or WI.

    Current Pinny odds in those states:

    MI: Harris EVEN
    PA: Harris +122
    WI: Harris +102

    Essentially Harris would need to hit the 3-team parlay of those, which pays 7.97 to 1. The no-vig payout would be more like 8.92 to 1

    If NC flips then Trump would need either PA OR Michigan AND Wisconsin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post
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    If trump truly has a lock on Arizona the election has a chance to be called at 9PM.

    Ive seen some writings that are saying North Carolina is all but decided.

    If one of the networks is ready to call PA early or a shocking Virginia we may all be in bed early.


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    I think AZ, GA, NC, and NV are just about in the bag for Trump at this point, while Virginia, New Hampshire, and Nebraska 2 are in the bag for Harris.

    Assuming all that is true, and assuming no other surprises, Trump would only need ONE of MI, PA, or WI.

    Current Pinny odds in those states:

    MI: Harris EVEN
    PA: Harris +122
    WI: Harris +102

    Essentially Harris would need to hit the 3-team parlay of those, which pays 7.97 to 1. The no-vig payout would be more like 8.92 to 1

    If NC flips then Trump would need either PA OR Michigan AND Wisconsin.
    The best odds are Trump winning the entire rust belt. Or lose it. At this point he either wins all three or lose all three. I agree with James Carville, the swing states are 7-0 or 0-7. 4-3 is the most unlikely scenario. It's not like Trump would win MI and lose Georgia. Put some reason in the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by go_buccos View Post
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    If trump truly has a lock on Arizona the election has a chance to be called at 9PM.

    Ive seen some writings that are saying North Carolina is all but decided.

    If one of the networks is ready to call PA early or a shocking Virginia we may all be in bed early.


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    I think AZ, GA, NC, and NV are just about in the bag for Trump at this point, while Virginia, New Hampshire, and Nebraska 2 are in the bag for Harris.

    Assuming all that is true, and assuming no other surprises, Trump would only need ONE of MI, PA, or WI.

    Current Pinny odds in those states:

    MI: Harris EVEN
    PA: Harris +122
    WI: Harris +102

    Essentially Harris would need to hit the 3-team parlay of those, which pays 7.97 to 1. The no-vig payout would be more like 8.92 to 1

    If NC flips then Trump would need either PA OR Michigan AND Wisconsin.

    This is exactly where Im at. Of course you could say all three are correlated in that if Harris can win one she probably has a good shot to win the other two.

    Either way if it comes down to her needing to go 3-0 plus fade any other quirky way she can lose like if she blows virginia then you can easily see why trump is -170…… think you can argue it should be higher.

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    for anyone having involvement in any of the 3 hurricanes this year, or related to others who have, and are in dismay at the federal government's response - or lack thereof --all while funding illegals and Ukrainian pensions, it was the final nail in hte proverbial coffin.

    the election is done. Trump wins. they can't even cheat enough to save her.

     
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