Melissa Schubert alleges a male poker player is stalking her

[Dan Druff]

Niko,

First off, there's no point to keep repeating that you've never cheated anyone. I am not aware of any allegations against you regarding scamming, so we can all presume that money matters are not a problem here. (I am being serious, not sarcastic.) So no need to mention that further. This is about alleged stalking of Melissa Schubert.

I still don't understand what you are trying to show us regarding the burner accounts. So far I have seen nothing to indicate that those were operated by Melissa. If you have such evidence, please clearly post it.

Regarding the restraining order, I cannot comment much on that because I have no information about that case, aside from what you just posted here.

With that said, I am assuming that your mountain of unanswered messages to her was probably enough to convince the judge to grant it, even if the "hanging out on WSOP" breaks was used to push it over the finish line. Regardless, as your messages to her were all real, your WSOP actions aren't the main point here anyway, even if the WSOP stuff was 100% innocent (which it very well might have been).

The death threat you received 36 hours before the hearing might have been coincidental timing, or perhaps it was one of her friends. Regardless, if these threats are not ongoing, they should not be of much concern at this point.


The Rob Kuhn thing is interesting. I did not realize they had once dated. That complicates things. Unfortunately, I have heard of many situations where two poker players date, the relationship crumbles, and one accuses the other of owing money, while the other denies it. These are often hard to figure out from the outside. Had Rob not dated her, and he said she stiffed him out of $$, I'd be more inclined to believe she stole, because why would he make it up otherwise? But when there was a dating relationship, it gets complicated. For example, what if Rob thought he was loaning Melissa money to play, she thought it was a stake, and she lost the money at the table? Who is in the right? It's impossible to tell unless you've heard the conversation between them.



My suggestion is this:

Make it clear to Melissa that you are sorry for sending the repeated messages, and didn't realize they were unwelcome. Promise her that you will completely cease contact and basically forget she exists. State that you will be playing poker as you always have, but if for whatever reason you two are in the same card room, you will completely ignore her and stay away. You can pass this message along via a third party, so you don't get in trouble for violating the order.

Keep in mind that you are not automatically banned from Vegas cardrooms because of this. If you get there first, you are likely not required to leave. Most states have a "whoever gets there first has the right to be there" rule. Not sure if Nevada does, but most do. Just keep your distance from her.

Honestly I think she just wants to be left alone, and know you are of no danger to her.

If you stick to the position of, "I did nothing wrong. You lied about everything. You are being unreasonable, Melissa", then this is just going to keep causing you problems.

Good luck.

[Sloppy Joe]

lol @ looking for redemption on a 7th tier poker forum.

This is simply the thread that comes up when you google my name that is why it’s a big deal to me. It’s the 2nd result and it’s impinging on my social life and my health. I don’t care too much what you all think of me but it seems like the first step. Stuff like this destroys like this destroys lives. True or not at what point am I allowed to move on? Either way this person lied about me, cost me a lot of money and I have a big problem with it. Especially in an industry where the big names parade themselves as upholders of justice and goodness. It’s multiple levels of ridiculous.

You can move on right now, shut it down faggot.

-900 you're 100% behind all of the burners 'harassing' you. Nobody on Earth would care enough besides you and your need for attention.

It's an old play amongst jilted male poker players to fire up a burner after being cucked by a woman.

TL; dr: Everyone thinks you're a maniac when you post, stop talking about this and everyone moves on and you become firmly irrelevant again almost immediately.

[psaras]

This is simply the thread that comes up when you google my name that is why it’s a big deal to me. It’s the 2nd result and it’s impinging on my social life and my health. I don’t care too much what you all think of me but it seems like the first step. Stuff like this destroys like this destroys lives. True or not at what point am I allowed to move on? Either way this person lied about me, cost me a lot of money and I have a big problem with it. Especially in an industry where the big names parade themselves as upholders of justice and goodness. It’s multiple levels of ridiculous.

Did you send a large number of unsolicited and unacknowledged messages to Melissa including setting up date reservations in her name? If so (and I think you did) do you understand how creepy and disturbing this behaviour would be for someone?

Niko,

First off, there's no point to keep repeating that you've never cheated anyone. I am not aware of any allegations against you regarding scamming, so we can all presume that money matters are not a problem here. (I am being serious, not sarcastic.) So no need to mention that further. This is about alleged stalking of Melissa Schubert.

I still don't understand what you are trying to show us regarding the burner accounts. So far I have seen nothing to indicate that those were operated by Melissa. If you have such evidence, please clearly post it.

Regarding the restraining order, I cannot comment much on that because I have no information about that case, aside from what you just posted here.

With that said, I am assuming that your mountain of unanswered messages to her was probably enough to convince the judge to grant it, even if the "hanging out on WSOP" breaks was used to push it over the finish line. Regardless, as your messages to her were all real, your WSOP actions aren't the main point here anyway, even if the WSOP stuff was 100% innocent (which it very well might have been).

The death threat you received 36 hours before the hearing might have been coincidental timing, or perhaps it was one of her friends. Regardless, if these threats are not ongoing, they should not be of much concern at this point.


The Rob Kuhn thing is interesting. I did not realize they had once dated. That complicates things. Unfortunately, I have heard of many situations where two poker players date, the relationship crumbles, and one accuses the other of owing money, while the other denies it. These are often hard to figure out from the outside. Had Rob not dated her, and he said she stiffed him out of $$, I'd be more inclined to believe she stole, because why would he make it up otherwise? But when there was a dating relationship, it gets complicated. For example, what if Rob thought he was loaning Melissa money to play, she thought it was a stake, and she lost the money at the table? Who is in the right? It's impossible to tell unless you've heard the conversation between them.



My suggestion is this:

Make it clear to Melissa that you are sorry for sending the repeated messages, and didn't realize they were unwelcome. Promise her that you will completely cease contact and basically forget she exists. State that you will be playing poker as you always have, but if for whatever reason you two are in the same card room, you will completely ignore her and stay away. You can pass this message along via a third party, so you don't get in trouble for violating the order.

Keep in mind that you are not automatically banned from Vegas cardrooms because of this. If you get there first, you are likely not required to leave. Most states have a "whoever gets there first has the right to be there" rule. Not sure if Nevada does, but most do. Just keep your distance from her.

Honestly I think she just wants to be left alone, and know you are of no danger to her.

If you stick to the position of, "I did nothing wrong. You lied about everything. You are being unreasonable, Melissa", then this is just going to keep causing you problems.

Good luck.

Of course there is a point to repeating that I am honest and credible and that she isn’t!! That’s the whole point. Everything I have said regarding this has gotten instantly dismissed and you haven’t even addressed the fact she lied about me throughout the ordeal. Why not? Conveniently skipped over that part.

It’s a common tactic women use to exaggerate and harm others and that is exactly what she has succeeded in doing. Of course it’s relevant. I immediately got kicked from a private club, I got kicked from a backing firm I was able to snap sell action in, I got banned from the Wynn, it makes people not want to work with me, and most important of all it makes people who don’t even know me yet assume whatever insanity she decides to spread.

There are groups full of women like this who spread this garbage and destroy the lives of men. They are just starting to get sued and lose. I strongly suggest you look into that.

Her OP gives away her motive. “This is my last warning before filing an order of protection which would severely harm his livelihood.” Can not be more bird brained than that. She both acknowledges that her actions would severely harm me and wields it as if it’s some kind of weapon, not like somebody who is afraid of me. If you can’t see that you’re clueless. There are instances where somebody receives these exact messages and is not scared. This is one of them. From the 5 month span without blocking the account to her own words it does not seem even remotely likely that it is the case. She immediately pivots to “filing for the TPO immediately” after being called out for lying, and goes on to say she needs armed security guards. There is no way you’re all this stupid. This is a dime a dozen scenario of a women leveraging a situation to avoid accountability at the expense of somebody else.

Stalking is a serious crime and not a crime I have ever done. I’ve never with the intent of harassing scaring or threatening messaged somebody. I have already demonstrated in my previous post that the long string of messages was acknowledged. It is described by Melissa as somebody writing in their daily diary.

The details she lied about are key details. Her course of action of not doing anything for 5 months and the thread itself are indicative that this person was on a power trip. Regardless of how you want to interpret it. In a court of law her credibility plays a role in wether or not a TPO is granted.

Furthermore what you are suggesting is not only a violation of the protective order it is a ridiculous notion that I would ever apologize to her. She is clearly a willing participant and you and everybody else are giving every benefit of the doubt to somebody that is a liar. That is the antithesis of what a fair and integrity based community or forum should be about.

I have shown this to multiple neutral parties who all agree this women tried to harm me. The TPO does not go through if she doesn’t lie and whether or not you agree with that doesn’t change a thing.

Btw here is a copy of the order. It does not allow me to reasonably do what you said. No it’s not sufficient to play poker. I spoke to a great lawyer who told me he could get it modified so that it would be as you describe it (first person in the room). As it is if she is in my vicinity and makes up another story I COULD GET SENT TO PRISON FOR 5 YEARS. That you think it should be at her whim to do that or not, is barbaric as is this order. In addition, the judge did not afford me a chance to speak. It was all bizarre, as my lawyer asked for a recess and I thought at minimum I would get asked a few questions. Nope, she listened to Melissa cry, tell the judge that she “hides on the bathroom floor on breaks”, that I might “climb in through her window and dismember her” and that’s it, she made a ruling.

[Dan Druff]

It sounds like you can play tournaments when she's there, but just have to notify the tournament director about this order.

Regarding everything else... please reread what I wrote. Your first order of business is to ask yourself if the messages you sent to her in Twitter DM were excessive and/or unsettling. Look at it honestly and try to see it from her point of view.

I think once you realize that, yes, these messages were inappropriate (even if you meant them innocently), I think this will all become clearer. I think if you made a public statement that you're just going to forget about her existence, and you just want to keep your head down and play poker, it would go a long way.

You're making this whole thing overly complicated.

[psaras]

It sounds like you can play tournaments when she's there, but just have to notify the tournament director about this order.

Regarding everything else... please reread what I wrote. Your first order of business is to ask yourself if the messages you sent to her in Twitter DM were excessive and/or unsettling. Look at it honestly and try to see it from her point of view.

I think once you realize that, yes, these messages were inappropriate (even if you meant them innocently), I think this will all become clearer. I think if you made a public statement that you're just going to forget about her existence, and you just want to keep your head down and play poker, it would go a long way.

You're making this whole thing overly complicated.

You live in America. I can be excessive, unsettling, whatever you choose to believe about me. It is within my rights to do so. You are still refusing to acknowledge that she lied about the key details, which opens up more questions. So long as you are doing that you are not giving my side a fair chance. I do not have to apologize or do anything else to be treated fairly. I don’t have to realize anything nor do I have to inform you whether or not I have realized anything. I am not making anything complicated. What she did is illegal. What I did is not. Disseminating pictures of my penis is illegal. Lying about somebody to thousands of people is libel. This person destroyed my career. There is absolutely nothing that can be done to fix it. You said you were willing to listen to my side and you have not even acknowledged that she lied about what I posted. I have not even yet begun. Once that is done I can move forward. Will you acknowledge that she lied about not having read my messages or am I wasting my time on your joke of a site? And if you want to play that game with me do you have any proof that I sent any of those messages? Don’t think so.

[Sloppy Joe]

Druff it may be time to snap this lunatic off clean unless you got that restraining order template set to deploy. Don't birth another 6TP trying to reason.

Guy is more delusional than mickeycrimm thinking he can convince anyone he makes a quarter mil annually grinding penny slots.

[NickyPipes]

Listen up Dip Shit

Time to shut your mouth

You’re a creep and perv caught red handed

You should never comment publicly on this again except to apologize

The order won’t impact your life who cares

Nobody’s googling you

You’ll be ok buddy next time just hire hooker

[Pablo]

I don't think Niko was going to dismember her.

[psaras]

It sounds like you can play tournaments when she's there, but just have to notify the tournament director about this order.

Regarding everything else... please reread what I wrote. Your first order of business is to ask yourself if the messages you sent to her in Twitter DM were excessive and/or unsettling. Look at it honestly and try to see it from her point of view.

I think once you realize that, yes, these messages were inappropriate (even if you meant them innocently), I think this will all become clearer. I think if you made a public statement that you're just going to forget about her existence, and you just want to keep your head down and play poker, it would go a long way.

You're making this whole thing overly complicated.

Hold on what do you think I was doing when this report was filed? I was sitting around playing a tournament minding my own business. What makes you think I can just play without the same thing happening again??? What stops her from making something up again? What am I supposed to do then? What happens if the both of us final table an event? Don’t give me the “oh that’s very unlikely”. It can happen. What’s stopping her from lying about me again? And once again why won’t you acknowledged that she lied in the first place? If what I did was so cut and dry then why need to lie? If it doesn’t change anything than why not acknowledge what is true and what is not?

Btw, what date was this website made? Curious.

[Sloppy Joe]

Listen up Dip Shit

Time to shut your mouth

You’re a creep and perv caught red handed

You should never comment publicly on this again except to apologize

The order won’t impact your life who cares

Nobody’s googling you

You’ll be ok buddy next time just hire hooker

Brother I wholeheartedly agree, but let's not encourage him to seek out additional women as that seems to be a problem.

If there's any hopes of repairing this deeply damaged Asperger's maniac it begins with testicle sunning.

I predict 'No-Contact Niko' ends up jailed within the year if this doesn't commence immediately as society does not want incel weirdos stalking our females.

We know Druff has a soft spot for counseling the broken and retarded among us but this charity must end.

[Dan Druff]

Niko,

I can't do this anymore. You may think that your reasoning makes sense, but it doesn't. I tried to give you a chance, but I am not seeing any compelling evidence which changes my mind.

You are claiming she lied in court in order to get the restraining order granted. If she were asked, I'm sure she'd say she told the truth. Do I have any way to know which person is telling the accurate story? I don't. That's why I really don't like to get in the middle of personal disputes.

If you don't want to apologize, that's fine. This is probably way past the point of apologies anyway. I would just suggest that you work to mitigate this situation (such as informing tournament directors when necessary), and then forget she exists.

I will offer one thing to you, though. I'll remove your name from the thread so it falls off Google, if you'd like that. That will allow you a fresh start from the situation, and hopefully you can move on at that point. Let me know if you'd like me to do that.

[Sloppy Joe]

Yes let's be sure to help the delusional maniac remain in the shadows, wouldn't want the women to be safer.

But stick around Brother Niko, you've found your community even though you just got told to fuck off.

[Jayjami]

Yes let's be sure to help the delusional maniac remain in the shadows, wouldn't want the women to be safer.

But stick around Brother Niko, you've found your community even though you just got told to fuck off.

If you’re gonna be a member of this community, you gotta have thick skin. It’s only a matter of time before the piranhas here sense weakness and attack en masse. Pilling on is what we do best.

[tigerpiper]

Disseminating picks of my penis?

[psaras]

Niko,

I can't do this anymore. You may think that your reasoning makes sense, but it doesn't. I tried to give you a chance, but I am not seeing any compelling evidence which changes my mind.

You are claiming she lied in court in order to get the restraining order granted. If she were asked, I'm sure she'd say she told the truth. Do I have any way to know which person is telling the accurate story? I don't. That's why I really don't like to get in the middle of personal disputes.

If you don't want to apologize, that's fine. This is probably way past the point of apologies anyway. I would just suggest that you work to mitigate this situation (such as informing tournament directors when necessary), and then forget she exists.

I will offer one thing to you, though. I'll remove your name from the thread so it falls off Google, if you'd like that. That will allow you a fresh start from the situation, and hopefully you can move on at that point. Let me know if you'd like me to do that.

First off thank you for that offer. That is a great step forward for me and I appreciate it and I would like that. I’ll DM you regarding that. I am not saying I did nothing wrong but that it is being presented in a manner that is untruthful. I am confident that this would look a whole lot different if all parties were honest. You may not believe me but it wouldn’t be the first time I get called insane and then proven right somewhere along the line. I made a big mistake and I don’t think what I did was right. I always prefer to have full transparency and do not change that for any situation. However I also cannot apologize to the air. If somebody were to confront me about what I did to them and I am convinced they are being forward with me 10/10 times I am going to apologize to them in an earnest manner. If I think I’m being lied to I’m going to be forward to them as well. I grew up in a household and family of mostly women and I know I have not come all this way on some delusion. Also I’ve had a situation similar to this with an ex of mine however she asked me for money specifically in exchange for her talking to me and she did not uphold her end. I sent her money and blew up her phone trying to get a response.That is the only other case remotely close to this. Melissa also said on her page that Ive “done this to other women”. I have the somewhere and can find it. Where are these other women? They don’t exist. And she couldn’t know about my ex. She has lied about me to a lot of people and it’s very harmful to me.

Second off please read the following carefully:
The lie I am most concerned about should be clear on my 2nd point of post 36 of this thread. Please go through it very carefully as I am concerned with verifying what I am alleging in the 2nd point of post 36 of this thread. Not that it is consequential, just that I am correct.
In order:
-She tweets on December 5th 2022 directly quoting/citing a message from my main account and alleging that I am using her inbox as my daily diary
-She then tweets on March 29th “I never saw these messages this is so much worse than I thought”

I am not concerned with wether or not you believe it is consequential but I would like some acknowledgement that she lied to people on March 29th


Third I am in a group of men who are victim of false or exaggerated accusations. Every member is vetted and listened to. They have seen it all from false rape accusations to smear campaigns. You have no idea how the power they are given is manipulated to harm these men. None. It is absolutely dangerous for me to be anywhere this women might also be including a tournament. There’s no way to prove what I was doing or that I ever talked to a tournament director. She can say whatever she wants and the problem is that she has this type of power. I have no idea whether or not she’ll feel slighted on a certain day she might see me playing a tournament. It is truly a dangerous situation for me to be in and that is what I was advised in this group to never even play a tournament. It is a massive risk for me. You just don’t get it. That is one reason I am putting this out here so that I can protect myself in some form if I decide to take the risk and play the main event.

Fourth my number one priority is to look after my family in a trying time where I feel responsible for them. I have the foresight to have seen what is happening in the world right now and I’m certain it’ll get much worse. This event has had a cascade effect on me financially. It is a numbers game and I am not a millionaire where skipping a few tournaments and being booted from games is inconsequential for me. It has had a domino effect on my life I have not even begun to scratch the surface of how this has affected me.

Fifth I’ll refer back to the second point in this post and why I think it’s important to acknowledge that she lied on March 29th about not having read my messages. If you know anything about young women nowadays, they screenshot and share everything. So why is this important? She is an influential member of a big space. It is relevant. If those messages were reaching various parties and you read some of the content of the actual messages and try to look at it from my side step by step as you’ve suggested I do, you might see negligence. If all the adults are watching and they are allowing it to unfold in this manner, it absolutely can be a big deal and have wronged me in a bad way.

Sixth I am no danger to anybody. I’ve never threatened nor approached this women even though I had an opportunity to do that at one point in 2023. It is ridiculous and hysteria at minimum to say things that paint me as a violent psychopath. It’s very harmful and often manipulative to do that. I was trying to get a date with her. I was wrong. Like I said, you should hear some of the stories in the group that I’m in and you might agree. A no contact order would have sufficed. In fact, I was on a different continent last year in a place with lots of friends. If I wanted to I could have gotten a burner there and messaged her anything I wanted but I never did that. I promise you I have not even so much as looked at any of her social media profiles since the injunction was put into place. I did an immediate 180 after listening to her lie to the judge. I do not want anything to do with her. I’ve reassessed my priorities and I see what I did wrong.

Thank you for reading and I’ll reach out to your DM shortly.

[Sloppy Joe]

How big of a chode can you be to pay an ex to talk to you?

Threatening to sue over hurt feelings has finally been surpassed as most embarrassing admission in PFA history.

[dmndkutr]

How big of a chode can you be to pay an ex to talk to you?

Threatening to sue over hurt feelings has finally been surpassed as most embarrassing admission in PFA history.

Niko,

I can't do this anymore. You may think that your reasoning makes sense, but it doesn't. I tried to give you a chance, but I am not seeing any compelling evidence which changes my mind.

You are claiming she lied in court in order to get the restraining order granted. If she were asked, I'm sure she'd say she told the truth. Do I have any way to know which person is telling the accurate story? I don't. That's why I really don't like to get in the middle of personal disputes.

If you don't want to apologize, that's fine. This is probably way past the point of apologies anyway. I would just suggest that you work to mitigate this situation (such as informing tournament directors when necessary), and then forget she exists.

I will offer one thing to you, though. I'll remove your name from the thread so it falls off Google, if you'd like that. That will allow you a fresh start from the situation, and hopefully you can move on at that point. Let me know if you'd like me to do that.

First off thank you for that offer. That is a great step forward for me and I appreciate it and I would like that. I’ll DM you regarding that. I am not saying I did nothing wrong but that it is being presented in a manner that is untruthful. I am confident that this would look a whole lot different if all parties were honest. You may not believe me but it wouldn’t be the first time I get called insane and then proven right somewhere along the line. I made a big mistake and I don’t think what I did was right. I always prefer to have full transparency and do not change that for any situation. However I also cannot apologize to the air. If somebody were to confront me about what I did to them and I am convinced they are being forward with me 10/10 times I am going to apologize to them in an earnest manner. If I think I’m being lied to I’m going to be forward to them as well. I grew up in a household and family of mostly women and I know I have not come all this way on some delusion. Also I’ve had a situation similar to this with an ex of mine however she asked me for money specifically in exchange for her talking to me and she did not uphold her end. I sent her money and blew up her phone trying to get a response.That is the only other case remotely close to this. Melissa also said on her page that Ive “done this to other women”. I have the somewhere and can find it. Where are these other women? They don’t exist. And she couldn’t know about my ex. She has lied about me to a lot of people and it’s very harmful to me.

Second off please read the following carefully:
The lie I am most concerned about should be clear on my 2nd point of post 36 of this thread. Please go through it very carefully as I am concerned with verifying what I am alleging in the 2nd point of post 36 of this thread. Not that it is consequential, just that I am correct.
In order:
-She tweets on December 5th 2022 directly quoting/citing a message from my main account and alleging that I am using her inbox as my daily diary
-She then tweets on March 29th “I never saw these messages this is so much worse than I thought”

I am not concerned with wether or not you believe it is consequential but I would like some acknowledgement that she lied to people on March 29th


Third I am in a group of men who are victim of false or exaggerated accusations. Every member is vetted and listened to. They have seen it all from false rape accusations to smear campaigns. You have no idea how the power they are given is manipulated to harm these men. None. It is absolutely dangerous for me to be anywhere this women might also be including a tournament. There’s no way to prove what I was doing or that I ever talked to a tournament director. She can say whatever she wants and the problem is that she has this type of power. I have no idea whether or not she’ll feel slighted on a certain day she might see me playing a tournament. It is truly a dangerous situation for me to be in and that is what I was advised in this group to never even play a tournament. It is a massive risk for me. You just don’t get it. That is one reason I am putting this out here so that I can protect myself in some form if I decide to take the risk and play the main event.

Fourth my number one priority is to look after my family in a trying time where I feel responsible for them. I have the foresight to have seen what is happening in the world right now and I’m certain it’ll get much worse. This event has had a cascade effect on me financially. It is a numbers game and I am not a millionaire where skipping a few tournaments and being booted from games is inconsequential for me. It has had a domino effect on my life I have not even begun to scratch the surface of how this has affected me.

Fifth I’ll refer back to the second point in this post and why I think it’s important to acknowledge that she lied on March 29th about not having read my messages. If you know anything about young women nowadays, they screenshot and share everything. So why is this important? She is an influential member of a big space. It is relevant. If those messages were reaching various parties and you read some of the content of the actual messages and try to look at it from my side step by step as you’ve suggested I do, you might see negligence. If all the adults are watching and they are allowing it to unfold in this manner, it absolutely can be a big deal and have wronged me in a bad way.

Sixth I am no danger to anybody. I’ve never threatened nor approached this women even though I had an opportunity to do that at one point in 2023. It is ridiculous and hysteria at minimum to say things that paint me as a violent psychopath. It’s very harmful and often manipulative to do that. I was trying to get a date with her. I was wrong. Like I said, you should hear some of the stories in the group that I’m in and you might agree. A no contact order would have sufficed. In fact, I was on a different continent last year in a place with lots of friends. If I wanted to I could have gotten a burner there and messaged her anything I wanted but I never did that. I promise you I have not even so much as looked at any of her social media profiles since the injunction was put into place. I did an immediate 180 after listening to her lie to the judge. I do not want anything to do with her. I’ve reassessed my priorities and I see what I did wrong.

Thank you for reading and I’ll reach out to your DM shortly.

Why did you send her hundreds of messages when she didn’t respond? Why did you send her a picture of your dick?

[NickyPipes]

Brother I want to just put this to you directly:

You’re truly a scumbag & you need to knock it off

Even reading your writing I can tell you’re a creepy dude.

I’m trying to help you, please understand nobody on earth cares if this woman lied or exaggerated a little. That’s not how life works

What matters to people is you look like a weird creep and nobody wants that to be going on in their community

It’s time to cut it out. Im personally warning you to stop with the weird bullshit. You need to stop and never talk about this again. Everybody will forget in a few days but nobody will ever take your side so stop trying and just behave normally with women moving forward

[psaras]

Brother I want to just put this to you directly:

You’re truly a scumbag & you need to knock it off

Even reading your writing I can tell you’re a creepy dude.

I’m trying to help you, please understand nobody on earth cares if this woman lied or exaggerated a little. That’s not how life works

What matters to people is you look like a weird creep and nobody wants that to be going on in their community

It’s time to cut it out. Im personally warning you to stop with the weird bullshit. You need to stop and never talk about this again. Everybody will forget in a few days but nobody will ever take your side so stop trying and just behave normally with women moving forward

I don’t need to do anything. What happened to me is like I shoplifted and got 40 years for armed robbery. Who cares? A lot of people care. Mainly me. I care if somebody lies about me. It’s scum behavior. If I am so much in the wrong then why are you so hellbent on keeping me from getting facts? If she lied and it changes nothing why not acknowledge it. What you read online is not representative of real life. I have plenty of support offline. The low IQ are easily influenced and swindled online.

The problem you’re not understanding is I don’t care if you don’t want to be my friend or a part of your community (who are you to say that anyway?). I care first and foremost about me and mine and this has irreparably harmed me and had a ripple effect on my life. This affects my family, my friends, any and everything that has to do with me. In fairytale land nothing exists outside of your bubble. In real life I am a human being with a real life and I am reporting what has happened to me and how I’ve been wronged. I am seeking closure and a resolution to a situation which could have played out fairly but did not.

Perhaps I did not word my case in a way that is easy to understand but everybody I have shown these same points to agree with me. You should ask yourself why. You were influenced by one person’s story about another person. You will never ever get a fair representation and you have not gotten one of me. I’m 31 years old and I’m not known as a scumbag by people. That is your opinion based on a skewed perception you have. Again this is over if the truth is known about me, the rest sorts itself out. If you accuse me of doing something I did, I’ll never fight to deny it. I own all my mistakes. But when somebody lies about me it’s a big deal to me. It’s one of the most sinful things you can do for a reason, it opens up the door to more lies and rumors, it has a cascade effect, and it accomplishes what I have kept repeating in here: that it destroyed my life.

You don’t care? That’s fine. It makes you a hypocrite. If you’re going to uphold that I wronged somebody but look the other way when I’m wronged then it doesn’t seem you care about morals. I happen to care and I learn and grow all the time. When I’ve wronged I tried to make things right and when I’m wronged I seek for it to be righted. That doesn’t change the outcome here. I win 100% of the time and it’s because I am an honest person who does not seek to harm. This is like I shoplifted and am getting a death sentence. I’m the first to always step in when somebody is being wronged. I do a bang up job at it too. And that extends to when I am being wronged as well.

[NickyPipes]

You don’t understand what I was trying to tell you

You are emotional and defensive

I feel sorry for you but you need to calm down

You’re the only one making a big deal about this

A fool in his own grave digging deeper to prove a point

Wise up Bucko