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The SCOTUS decision on abortion definitely hurt republicans with women. And women will soon forget it was republicans that got the DOJ off their asses over parents rights when it comes to their children in school.

But I think the transgender athletes controversy favors the right. Republicans got a bill banning transgenders from competing in women's sports thru the house without one dem vote. The dem controlled house will shoot it down. But at least all those dems are on record being against it. Women are leaving the dem party in droves over the issue.
You’ve got it and it’s nice to see someone from that side willing to admit that.

It also sort of flies in the face of Kavanaugh suggesting that he considered the matter settled law. Of course, after what they tried to do to him, well…let’s just say I can kind of understand wanting to get some measure of revenge. I don’t know that I want a SCOTUS who is going to, in part, revisit certain issues to satisfy a vendetta, but I understand why Kavanaugh would gleefully overturn Roe.

And, if we’re being honest, SCOTUS technically shouldn’t care what’s good or bad for a particular political party’s perception or chances of winning contests in more centrist states. In that sense, they did their job. I’ve also said their overturn was Constitutionally correct; it just wasn’t good politics.

I agree that the transgender in sports favors the right because I think centrists agree with the right on that one. In fact, I don’t even think siding with the right requires being particularly centrist on that issue.

The problem there is the abortion issue potentially reaches more people, in the moment, than does the sports issue. The fact of the matter is, while Roe evidently was not, “Settled law,” as Kavanaugh claimed, certain pro-choice protections were seen as the de facto state of affairs in this country. Honestly, Obama could have formalized that when he had both the House and Senate, but I imagine that the Democrats wouldn’t have wanted to create Federal law, once and for all, and lose a winning political talking point. The threat of Roe being overturned (prior to it actually being overturned) kept the topic in national level debates and that topic was one where, as I am impressed to see you admit, Democrats have their finger on the pulse of the country.

Republicans running for Senate (in most states) and potential POTUS candidates are just going to have to promise no federal action restricting abortion; that’s all. They’ll be lying and will take Federal action to restrict abortion access if they ever get the opportunity, but maybe they can lie convincingly. I also don’t think it’s likely they’ll have enough Senate votes because even some Red Senators know better than to do so if they enjoy being Senators and wish to remain so.
Well then, there aren't any democrat centrists in Congress....because the house bill banning biological men from competing in women's sports didn't get one democrat vote. Every republican voted for it but not one democrat. The bill is in the Senate now. It's going to be interesting to see how Sinema and Manchin vote on it. Manchin is up for reelection and is way behind in the polls. Biden is sure to veto it if it make it to his desk....because he is not a centrist either. But at least all those voting against it will be identified.

And no, democrats don't have their hands on the pulse of the country. Typical lefty bullshit. You underestimate the impact of the FBI going after parents. Last I checked a lot of women are parents. And most all families have female athletes. Voters identifying as democrats have dropped the past couple years from 35% to 25%. Most of them women. Democrats are fooling themselves if they think they have the correct pulse of the country.