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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    He hired attorney Craig Mueller (I'm not familiar with him),
    Ouch, poor Ray having to pay that guy. As someone with superficial knowledge of Las Vegas criminal proceedings, I'm not sure if Mueller just keeps representing hopeless defendants or if he's just not a good advocate.

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    I received a 10-page handwritten letter from Ray today.

    I am in the process of finding out if he wants it posted.

     
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    Any update Druff?

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    Trial is on February 10.

    Raymond is likely to stay in jail until then.

    For now, he doesn't want me posting the letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    He hired attorney Craig Mueller (I'm not familiar with him),
    Ouch, poor Ray having to pay that guy. As someone with superficial knowledge of Las Vegas criminal proceedings, I'm not sure if Mueller just keeps representing hopeless defendants or if he's just not a good advocate.

    He is better than NO Attny. at all, 100% fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trial is on February 10.

    Raymond is likely to stay in jail until then.

    For now, he doesn't want me posting the letter.
    you should buy realgrinders when he goes to prison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trial is on February 10.

    Raymond is likely to stay in jail until then.

    For now, he doesn't want me posting the letter.
    you should buy realgrinders when he goes to prison
    What an interesting question that poses. Can you own a Facebook group? Do they have any value?

    I have my own opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trial is on February 10.

    Raymond is likely to stay in jail until then.

    For now, he doesn't want me posting the letter.
    The question is who’s looking after Harry his Tortoise and how the hell is his rent getting paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hardeight View Post

    you should buy realgrinders when he goes to prison
    What an interesting question that poses. Can you own a Facebook group? Do they have any value?

    I have my own opinion
    Per that idiot James Placek apparently you can and you can sell it since he did that earlier this year to sell Kash Poker for apparently $3k
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    Quote Originally Posted by ftpjesus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Trial is on February 10.

    Raymond is likely to stay in jail until then.

    For now, he doesn't want me posting the letter.
    The question is who’s looking after Harry his Tortoise and how the hell is his rent getting paid.
    I think one of his friends is going over and feeding Harry.

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    I'm sure his attorney advised him to not allow the letter to be posted under any circumstances.....at least I hope that's the advice given.

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    Did Ray happen to mention how many time guys have made him their prison bitch? If you are a real friend you will send him some KY jelly and Soap on a Rope. That might help the butthole pain h is getting but I don't know what you can do about the daily beat downs he must be taking with that big mouth of his. People like him get abused in prison.

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    Lady In Red needs to be on radio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady In Red View Post
    Did Ray happen to mention how many time guys have made him their prison bitch? If you are a real friend you will send him some KY jelly and Soap on a Rope. That might help the butthole pain h is getting but I don't know what you can do about the daily beat downs he must be taking with that big mouth of his. People like him get abused in prison.
    Who are you?

    You've only registered for the purpose of talking shit about Ray.

    Can you explain your issue with him? Are you even female? Do you even lift bro?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hardeight View Post

    you should buy realgrinders when he goes to prison
    What an interesting question that poses. Can you own a Facebook group? Do they have any value?

    I have my own opinion
    Yeah some have some good value , real grinder def has value

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    I have actually long wondered the true value of RealGrinders.

    The big draw is the fact that the Facebook group has 17,000 members, most of whom are rec players. So yes, the marketing value there could be high.

    Ray himself seemed to be profiting from marketing partnerships with one of those private game poker sites (which, as of this date, hasn't rolled anyone), as well as a private sportsbetting site. Not 100% legal, obviously, but Ray doesn't own these services, and just helps promote them on RealGrinders. I have to imagine he made some decent money doing this.

    They've also made some money on sales of RealGrinders gear.

    Beyond that, I haven't seen it monetized very aggressively. I'm not sure what it's actually worth.

    When this thread started, people stated that these accusations against Ray would cause the "end" of RealGrinders. Well, it has definitely dampened activity there, but not for the reason you'd have expected. Activity has dropped because they are now moderating all posts, whereas before there was no moderation. Believe it or not, I think they'd simply have been better off letting people post about Ray's predicament, and otherwise letting the group run as it was before. The moderation of posts is really dragging down interest/activity on the once-bustling group.

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    Lady in Red seems like a cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hardeight View Post

    you should buy realgrinders when he goes to prison
    What an interesting question that poses. Can you own a Facebook group? Do they have any value?

    I have my own opinion
    Some FB groups have tremendous value if you're running them properly. Some examples below:

    Brides of XYZ: My fiancee and all her friends and about 7k other people are part of a brides group in a certain area of NY, but it also spans further out to NJ and CT sometimes. The 3 "admins" aka owners, have so much power that they were able to quit their day jobs (1 of them worked for GS in strategy) to start a wedding warehouse. They also get free DJing, photographers, food or venues whenever and for whatever they want. That group has a stranglehold on the wedding industry in our area and when we've named dropped them we instantly got discounts. One or two bad reviews from this group can destroy a seasoned business. The 3 girls also "moderate" very strongly for certain companies which makes me feel like there may be more to it than just "free" stuff.

    High End Cigar Group: Unlike the group on top, if you run a high end cigar group with active buyers and a source/supply of sticks you can turn over inventory fairly quickly at anywhere from 20-200% markup (OpusX being the best currently). The "admins" aka owners are usually the sellers and when others come in to try and sell in their group, they better kick back or it won't last long.

    So yes, big active groups can be monetized and be worth ALOT. You have to work at it, get lucky or just befriend the right person. Either way the value is there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady In Red View Post
    Did Ray happen to mention how many time guys have made him their prison bitch? If you are a real friend you will send him some KY jelly and Soap on a Rope. That might help the butthole pain h is getting but I don't know what you can do about the daily beat downs he must be taking with that big mouth of his. People like him get abused in prison.
    You know he's in jail and not prison, right? There's a pretty substantial difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowe Diddly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady In Red View Post
    Did Ray happen to mention how many time guys have made him their prison bitch? If you are a real friend you will send him some KY jelly and Soap on a Rope. That might help the butthole pain h is getting but I don't know what you can do about the daily beat downs he must be taking with that big mouth of his. People like him get abused in prison.
    You know he's in jail and nor prison, right? There's a pretty substantial difference.
    Fantasy's like these mentioned have no basis in Fact/reality,, prison/Jail reflect same meaning in a dream translation. Plus Rape in prison is not as the writer is fantasizing of..There is no Ky involved and it is more Violent act than Sexual. Copping head in church/synagogue/prayer services are more "Amorous" liasions..
    And usually ppl facing his charges once convicted usually get beat/killed/maimed rather than raped.
    Sad days. Prayers for the Rayman. May he be exonerated or get out with Time served and a bracelet for 18 mths be a score. Do Not Judge him. Lest you be judged as harshly. Await the legal Systems Verdict. Pray for the man, he can be innocent. Legally HE IS INNOCENT last i checked.
    Ahhh but there is nothing like a good Jail rape fantasy tale, just use a Womens prison as a setting please. w/male & female guards..Ty.. time for a Cold shower before the radio show hahahaah

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