Had a stroke in July due to blood pressure

Maybe you can just find a middle ground somewhere between drinking every day and not drinking at all. Getting to 4 days already is a good start so its possible that in 2 weeks you may be able to just drink a couple nights a week instead of every day. But as the saying goes just take it one day at a time no point thinking too much about what will happen after the 2 weeks until you get there.

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Cmoney I am glad you have woken up and seen the light, especially with that consumption level. Lifestyle changes now with you still being relatively young can reverse any damage pretty easily.

Big change from not that log ago, but a good one indeed.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...Serious-Thread

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Thanks,

On day four now. Doctor came over last night gave me Ativan if needed. He thinks the worst is already behind me given my vitals and answers to a bunch of questions. Already seen a drop in blood pressure from 135/80 to 100/65 from first day of quitting. He basically said I got off lucky given the amount of drinking i have done and for the period of time (15 solid years).

He said there is still a chance of seizures but would be very unlikely at this point. Biggest issue is going to be cravings and jesus christ i cant stop thinking about sugar.

Feel better than yesterday and brain seems to coming more and more out of hibernation.

Going to ride this until two week mark and then see how it goes. I am not gong to lie . Even if I feel amazing after two weeks, it is going to be extremely hard not to drink again. This is simply because it is part of so many things i do and so many of the people i deal with. I cant imagine going to a football game, vegas etc and not drinking. The issue is that I cant control it once i get going so I either need to quit or I go back to the spot i was 4 days ago.

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When I broke my shoulder/arm I gave up alcohol and soda (caffeine) all at once. There is some studies that talk about bone healing and those both have negative effects on healing times. I figured the pain would offset the cravings and for the most part it has. I have massively increased my water intake to my body weight in ounces daily and I believe that has helped with cravings for both the booze and the caffeine.

The plan when healthy is to just not keep any of it in the house. That way I can drink both of those things but it will be by going out. I think it's a good compromise where I will probably end up drinking 1ish days a week and soda a couple times per week if I go out for lunch. Might be worth a try.

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Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS

Maybe you can just find a middle ground somewhere between drinking every day and not drinking at all. Getting to 4 days already is a good start so its possible that in 2 weeks you may be able to just drink a couple nights a week instead of every day. But as the saying goes just take it one day at a time no point thinking too much about what will happen after the 2 weeks until you get there.

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Good advice.

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Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS

Maybe you can just find a middle ground somewhere between drinking every day and not drinking at all. Getting to 4 days already is a good start so its possible that in 2 weeks you may be able to just drink a couple nights a week instead of every day. But as the saying goes just take it one day at a time no point thinking too much about what will happen after the 2 weeks until you get there.

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Cmoney is right, he will either go back to his old drinking habits or nothing at all. Cmoney is talking like nearly everyone in AA does. Alcohol is an old friend, the neuropathways are defined in the brain so that even once you get past the physical dependency and cravings your brain still remembers it gives you pleasure and it will try to convince you why you need to go back. Logically most of us know our lives are worse when drinking, relationships are shitty, motivation is shitty and you live your life in a bit of a haze, the worst part is you know the drinking will also make you worse off as you age and your ability to quit will diminish, you won't be able to find simple joys from things and you'll end up rooted in obsessively negative thinking. Tyde is a damn good example of what a typical life long alcoholic gets like.

I hope cmoney gives this experiment something like 6 months. The 3 month, 6 month and 1 year mark were big ones for me, I always noticed how much better my life was.

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Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe

Quitting sugar cold turkey was hard.

I gave it up after a conversation with colleagues about sugar intake, thinking it wouldn't be remotely difficult.

For three days/nights i was jonesing like a fiend, at one point almost cracking open a container of frosting from christmas to get something sweet.

Quitting weed and smoking cigarettes gave me no issues whatsoever, save mild headaches with weed.

After going cold for a month i reintroduced sugar and now can eat a bit without fiending for more.

Shit is no joke

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I did it for quite a while so I know it can be done. What helped me was making tea with stevia in it. I had read up and using stevia doesn't make your body crave real sugar like the artificial sweeteners do. You also want to throw in some fruits that have fiber.

Haven't had any yet but Joe Rogan swears this shit is great. Just don't think I can justify that much for soft drinks.
https://www.zevia.com

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I posted (in mosquito thread) about struggles with sugar and caffeine, moderating my own diet. I am certifiably addicted to Diet Coke. At my worst, I would drink 8-10 cans a day. It's a vile habit and one that seems simple to fix but is not easily overcome. I recently (in the last week) completely fell off the wagon - however, in the last several months, whenever I have had the compulsion to pick one up - Zevia/LaCroix (found at Whole Foods, btw) have curbed my jones. Non-caffeinated, sweet and satisfies need for something carbonated. The other thing I highly recommend are 1.9 oz. pocket size Crystal Light drops. The best way to liven up a bottle of water / satisfy the desire for something sweet.

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Originally Posted by LarryLaffer

I read somewhere (probably on FB) that if you are gluten free, eat everything organic, shop at whole foods, eat quinoa, and drink LaCroix you won't have a stroke and in fact will live to be 150.


you also won't have balls and be a total faggot.


choice is yours I say.

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Gluten free is a scam

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Talk to the parent of a child with celiac. I can assure, you it is not - but when someone decides to make gluten free a lifestyle choice because they believe they are deriving some sort of benefit from it - I LOL. Too many uneducated consumers confuse low carb and gluten free, IMO.

I feel this way about most peanut allergies.

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Gluten free is a scam

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Talk to the parent of a child with celiac. I can assure, you it is not - but when someone decides to make gluten free a lifestyle choice because they believe they are deriving some sort of benefit from it - I LOL. Too many uneducated consumers confuse low carb and gluten free, IMO.

I feel this way about most peanut allergies.

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Exactly right. Gluten free for the sake of trying to be hip/cool or perceived health benefits is a scam. But celiac is no fucking joke and thus gluten free is def not a scam in that case.

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Talk to the parent of a child with celiac. I can assure, you it is not - but when someone decides to make gluten free a lifestyle choice because they believe they are deriving some sort of benefit from it - I LOL. Too many uneducated consumers confuse low carb and gluten free, IMO.

I feel this way about most peanut allergies.

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Exactly right. Gluten free for the sake of trying to be hip/cool or perceived health benefits is a scam. But celiac is no fucking joke and thus gluten free is def not a scam in that case.

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I love when they throw "gluten free" on shit like pickles or rice krispies.

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Exactly right. Gluten free for the sake of trying to be hip/cool or perceived health benefits is a scam. But celiac is no fucking joke and thus gluten free is def not a scam in that case.

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I love when they throw "gluten free" on shit like pickles or rice krispies.

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The non-autistic kids, who may not have been vaxxed, who were likely never breastfed, may need the extra explanation.

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Exactly right. Gluten free for the sake of trying to be hip/cool or perceived health benefits is a scam. But celiac is no fucking joke and thus gluten free is def not a scam in that case.

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I love when they throw "gluten free" on shit like pickles or rice krispies.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Anyway, this thread has scared me into going and finding another doctor and getting some BP meds which work.

That scam doctor's office I went to in February prescribed me some meds which work for my brother, but were ineffective for me (they literally did nothing).

Thanks to shitty Obamacare making very few doctors available to me (at least ones which take new patients), I didn't bother going to find a new doctor to try other meds. So I'm still sitting on a 152/92 type BP, which while not immediately dangerous, is not good to be sitting with in the long or medium-term.

So I'm going to bear down this week and find a place, and get some different medication for it.

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Needless to say you want to keep it under 135/85 on average although as you get over 40 140/85 isn't all that bad. It's a PITA but I'd recommend not resting on a 152/92.

Glad the OP made it through. No reason why you won't bounce back close to 100%.

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Originally Posted by cmoney

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Originally Posted by NaturalBornHustler

Cmoney I am glad you have woken up and seen the light, especially with that consumption level. Lifestyle changes now with you still being relatively young can reverse any damage pretty easily.

Big change from not that log ago, but a good one indeed.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...Serious-Thread

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Thanks,

On day four now. Doctor came over last night gave me Ativan if needed. He thinks the worst is already behind me given my vitals and answers to a bunch of questions. Already seen a drop in blood pressure from 135/80 to 100/65 from first day of quitting. He basically said I got off lucky given the amount of drinking i have done and for the period of time (15 solid years).

He said there is still a chance of seizures but would be very unlikely at this point. Biggest issue is going to be cravings and jesus christ i cant stop thinking about sugar.

Feel better than yesterday and brain seems to coming more and more out of hibernation.

Going to ride this until two week mark and then see how it goes. I am not gong to lie . Even if I feel amazing after two weeks, it is going to be extremely hard not to drink again. This is simply because it is part of so many things i do and so many of the people i deal with. I cant imagine going to a football game, vegas etc and not drinking. The issue is that I cant control it once i get going so I either need to quit or I go back to the spot i was 4 days ago.

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Two other points in my life I quit sugar/alcohol for a month+ and both times I lost 30 lbs. it's not sustainable but if you want to jump start a diet/life change its a great way.

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Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS

Maybe you can just find a middle ground somewhere between drinking every day and not drinking at all. Getting to 4 days already is a good start so its possible that in 2 weeks you may be able to just drink a couple nights a week instead of every day. But as the saying goes just take it one day at a time no point thinking too much about what will happen after the 2 weeks until you get there.

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Yeah, I wish i could.

For example , with pot i can smoke it every so often and take it or leave it. I can do that with any other drug as well. I may take Xanax on a long distance flight and then not take it again for a year.

Just never been able to pull that same relationship off with the booze.

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Originally Posted by cmoney

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Originally Posted by JACKDANIELS

Maybe you can just find a middle ground somewhere between drinking every day and not drinking at all. Getting to 4 days already is a good start so its possible that in 2 weeks you may be able to just drink a couple nights a week instead of every day. But as the saying goes just take it one day at a time no point thinking too much about what will happen after the 2 weeks until you get there.

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Yeah, I wish i could.

For example , with pot i can smoke it every so often and take it or leave it. I can do that with any other drug as well. I may take Xanax on a long distance flight and then not take it again for a year.

Just never been able to pull that same relationship off with the booze.

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You may surprise yourself.

I quit drinking for a year after waking up one morning with a brutal hangover where i mixed whiskey and white wine and said enough.

Through my mid 20's , any night of drinking would end up with me having 5-6 while out and then continuing with beers once back. I quit due to the hangovers worsening with age and thought it had to be all or nothing.

After a year dry, i had a couple on thanksgiving and it didnt lead a binge. I then drew the line at no more than 2 for awhile, and now am comfortable getting buzzed off of 3-4 over the course of a night here and there and never go beyond.

Everyone is different, of course, but learning moderation was doable for me and has made drinking more enjoyable.

Hang in there to see how it feels after a good chunk of time. I actually never felt different save from not being hung over but imagine you will given quantity.

This is what I love about many peoples ideas on addiction. Like this opioid "crisis" where people are calling for the banning of such prescribed medicines because they're a guaranteed handcart to hell. The fact is less than one percent of people administered opioids become addicted. (something like that)

Same with alchohol or anything else. Not a disease but a condition or disorder that some are predisposed to.

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This is what I love about many peoples ideas on addiction. Like this opioid "crisis" where people are calling for the banning of such prescribed medicines because they're a guaranteed handcart to hell. The fact is less than one percent of people administered opioids become addicted. (something like that)

Same with alchohol or anything else. Not a disease but a condition or disorder that some are predisposed to.

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I agree. Most people can drink just fine, it's fun as hell and adds to one's life. This wasn't true for me but I'm in the minority.

trout..Note that I said people administered opioids. Thinking back to what I read/heard this data comes from hospitals where opioids of one form or another are used everyday for pain. If the narcotic was the factor in addiction the numbers would be uge.

Most of the overdose deaths are related to non prescribed forms of narcotics. I'm sure you realize that. Maybe not

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Originally Posted by cmoney

I am not smart enough to comment on what alcohol does to your blood sugar levels once it enters your body. However, i always thought beer and liquor have very small amounts of sugar in them. My understanding is that the real danger with sugar and alcohol is in the mixed drinks.

I actually have pretty good discipline when it comes to beer/liquor and food. Even when drinking, i am really good with sticking to no sugars and grains. Also, drinking a bunch of beer and eating chips, pizza, or whatever the snack there is around, just makes me sick.


Gambling is another story. I dont even like to gamble unless i am drinking. I find it completely boring without the booze.

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Alcohol is generally a carb and will convert to sugars, it will raise your blood sugars and then dramatically reduce them in huge levels. This is also another contributing factor to wanting more booze.

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Alcohol isnt a carb.

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Alcohol is generally a carb and will convert to sugars, it will raise your blood sugars and then dramatically reduce them in huge levels. This is also another contributing factor to wanting more booze.

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Alcohol isnt a carb.

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Yeah I was wrong on that, all I knew is that myself and everyone else who drinks heavily never craved sweets and then when quitting craved them enormously.