Had a stroke in July due to blood pressure

[gauchojake]

Alcohol is mostly sugar so when you quit after you have been drinking for a long time, your body craves it. When I was drinking I never ate sweets, only savory snacks. As soon as I quit I was crushing dark chocolate peanut butter cups from Trader Joe's like a fucking mad man. Good luck, it's a worthwhile endeavor.

[Sloppy Joe]

Quitting sugar cold turkey was hard.

I gave it up after a conversation with colleagues about sugar intake, thinking it wouldn't be remotely difficult.

For three days/nights i was jonesing like a fiend, at one point almost cracking open a container of frosting from christmas to get something sweet.

Quitting weed and smoking cigarettes gave me no issues whatsoever, save mild headaches with weed.

After going cold for a month i reintroduced sugar and now can eat a bit without fiending for more.

Shit is no joke

[Dan Druff]

Quitting sugar cold turkey was hard.

I gave it up after a conversation with colleagues about sugar intake, thinking it wouldn't be remotely difficult.

For three days/nights i was jonesing like a fiend, at one point almost cracking open a container of frosting from christmas to get something sweet.

Quitting weed and smoking cigarettes gave me no issues whatsoever, save mild headaches with weed.

After going cold for a month i reintroduced sugar and now can eat a bit without fiending for more.

Shit is no joke

A good time to do it is when you have a cold. Or at least that's how it works for me.

When I have a bad cold, my desire for sugar temporarily disappears. If there's ever a time to try to quit it and get your body not used to having it, I would say that's it.

[shortbuspoker]

Quitting sugar cold turkey was hard.

I gave it up after a conversation with colleagues about sugar intake, thinking it wouldn't be remotely difficult.

For three days/nights i was jonesing like a fiend, at one point almost cracking open a container of frosting from christmas to get something sweet.

Quitting weed and smoking cigarettes gave me no issues whatsoever, save mild headaches with weed.

After going cold for a month i reintroduced sugar and now can eat a bit without fiending for more.

Shit is no joke

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I did it for quite a while so I know it can be done. What helped me was making tea with stevia in it. I had read up and using stevia doesn't make your body crave real sugar like the artificial sweeteners do. You also want to throw in some fruits that have fiber.

Haven't had any yet but Joe Rogan swears this shit is great. Just don't think I can justify that much for soft drinks.
https://www.zevia.com

[NaturalBornHustler]

Anyone mind sharing how much they were drinking before they quit ?

I would consider myself a heavy drinker for the past 25 years but have always done a physical job and drunk 3/4/5 litres of water everyday.

No health issues yet.

Drinking all the water and sweating it out at work makes you ready for the next beer.

I drank 10-15 a day regularly. I say "drank" but I am only on day 3 of not drinking so long ways to go.

However, 1 is never less than 6 percent for a beer. For example, I would drink a "Golden Monkey" six pack and count it as six beers even though it is around 10 percent per beer.

In the last 10 years, i never blacked out and rarely got drunk (maybe 1-2 times a year). So, i dont drink to get drink. I drink to get a steady buzz.

Peter's posts got to me and I took a step back and realized that the only reason i really have not suffered because of my drinking is because when the work load gets rough (because of hangovers or non motivation) is because i have the ability to delegate. I have gotten so good at delegation because of my drinking that i could probably go to prison for a year and only need to write one email a week and still do well financially.

With that said, the booze has started to compete with my energy and overall zest for life. I also am more anxious than before and that is almost for sure because of booze.

So who knows. I am day 3 and feel like shit but i am going to get to the two week mark if it kills me. Once i hit two weeks I will see how it all feels and take it from there. As shitty as i do feel my brain already feels as if it can process information easier. As if part of it had been in a constant semi sleep state and now just kind of coming out of hibernation.

The sugar craving thing is a trip though. The feeling is as if you need water but the water to quench the thirst is sugar. So bizarre.

Doctor friend coming over tonight to check vitals and bring me fluids and some other stuff in a banana bag. He seems to think the third night will be the worst so will see . Right now I feel shitty but no worse than third day of quitting smoking.

Cmoney I am glad you have woken up and seen the light, especially with that consumption level. Lifestyle changes now with you still being relatively young can reverse any damage pretty easily.

Big change from not that log ago, but a good one indeed.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...Serious-Thread

[Sheesfaced]

Quitting sugar cold turkey was hard.

I gave it up after a conversation with colleagues about sugar intake, thinking it wouldn't be remotely difficult.

For three days/nights i was jonesing like a fiend, at one point almost cracking open a container of frosting from christmas to get something sweet.

Quitting weed and smoking cigarettes gave me no issues whatsoever, save mild headaches with weed.

After going cold for a month i reintroduced sugar and now can eat a bit without fiending for more.

Shit is no joke

A good time to do it is when you have a cold. Or at least that's how it works for me.

When I have a bad cold, my desire for sugar temporarily disappears. If there's ever a time to try to quit it and get your body not used to having it, I would say that's it.

So basically once a month you have an opportunity to quit sugar?

[simpdog]

Quitting sugar cold turkey was hard.

I gave it up after a conversation with colleagues about sugar intake, thinking it wouldn't be remotely difficult.

For three days/nights i was jonesing like a fiend, at one point almost cracking open a container of frosting from christmas to get something sweet.

Quitting weed and smoking cigarettes gave me no issues whatsoever, save mild headaches with weed.

After going cold for a month i reintroduced sugar and now can eat a bit without fiending for more.

Shit is no joke

A good time to do it is when you have a cold. Or at least that's how it works for me.

When I have a bad cold, my desire for sugar temporarily disappears. If there's ever a time to try to quit it and get your body not used to having it, I would say that's it.

Please start a new thread for quitting sugar when having a cold.

This one is about strokes due to blood pressure + quitting drinking.

[chinamaniac]

I have tried quitting sugar before and never lasted more than a few days I dont think and when I say sugar I mean wheat breads brown rice and anything that more or less contains sugar as ingredients or turns into sugar.

But about 2 weeks ago I started going to the gym again daily and started lifting weights with some very serious intensity. Follow that up to about 9 days ago I decided I was going to quit sugar completely and just go ketogenic and keep lifting weights for power and will pick up some heavy cardio after I get a routine down. For now I am taking about 8,000 steps a day on short brisk walks.

First few days were a bit of a struggle but I have been sugar free for about a week now and feel great and have no cravings because I am constantly full from eating. I haven't counted any calories or nothing but just by guesstimating what I should be doing ( 0 sugar, lots of protein and fat and low carbs ) my body went into ketosis after 4 or 5 days.

But bottom line my energy levels are very high ALL DAY now and I have not slept this good for a long long time. Like I usually never ever sleep thru the night before and for the past 10 days I can sleep like 8 hrs straight some nights easily and I am staying asleep for longer periods of time than before even when I wake up to take a piss or something because I fall right back to sleep and can just stay crashed for a while.

Part of the sleep thing though may also be because I am not playing poker much the past few weeks for the first time in a while so I think my body and mind just know I am not going to be waking up chasing games every day etc

/thread

[peter mcneil]

I've also had a few stints where I am in ketosis for a few weeks. I still play a lot of cardio heavy sports such as tennis and squash and I find my cardio is awful when energy comes from fat and I have ketones in my blood. I otherwise feel great in ketosis and there seems to be a growing body of evidence that this is a heart healthy diet and good for humans. No longer term studies yet though, still in its infancy.

[MumblesBadly]

I've also had a few stints where I am in ketosis for a few weeks. I still play a lot of cardio heavy sports such as tennis and squash and I find my cardio is awful when energy comes from fat and I have ketones in my blood. I otherwise feel great in ketosis and there seems to be a growing body of evidence that this is a heart healthy diet and good for humans. No longer term studies yet though, still in its infancy.

Not sure it's good to go to such extremes. Having *some" complex carbs isn't dietary evil.

[LarryLaffer]

I read somewhere (probably on FB) that if you are gluten free, eat everything organic, shop at whole foods, eat quinoa, and drink LaCroix you won't have a stroke and in fact will live to be 150.


you also won't have balls and be a total faggot.


choice is yours I say.

[peter mcneil]

I've also had a few stints where I am in ketosis for a few weeks. I still play a lot of cardio heavy sports such as tennis and squash and I find my cardio is awful when energy comes from fat and I have ketones in my blood. I otherwise feel great in ketosis and there seems to be a growing body of evidence that this is a heart healthy diet and good for humans. No longer term studies yet though, still in its infancy.

Not sure it's good to go to such extremes. Having *some" complex carbs isn't dietary evil.

I agree, I felt fine in ketosis but I believe it's a sub optimal way of eating.

[Charham]

very interesting. I think you nailed it, the rush I get from eating sugar reminds me of that feeling of walking into a casino. it has to be a neuro pathway thing. I am having a family meeting tonight about hiding the sweets much better. great advice, thanks. if I can get it out of sight it really helps.

If someone says 'just don't eat it' tell them to fuck off. That shit doesn't work and only people who don't fight the battled we fight with excessive behaviour see the world that way. Do whatever it takes, as long as the sweets aren't there or I don't give myself a little taste I'm fine for long periods without sugar. I let myself indulge once a week with the family but I may cut that out. Every Saturday morning after my Friday night binge I feel like dog shit and am irritable.

ok the talk went pretty well. my wife started with the "control yourself" crap, but the kids took over and made it a fun game like yours. plus they do not like it when dad eats their sweets so they are on board. my son of course gets upset if i eat his candy which i totally get, makes this even more pathetic on my part. interesting how many people are also dealing with sugar issues on this thread. ok you guys have inspired me, i am going cold turkey in honor of Cmoney and his cold turkey of booze, which is a lot tougher than giving up freaking candy! i am going one month to start.

[chinamaniac]

I read somewhere (probably on FB) that if you are gluten free, eat everything organic, shop at whole foods, eat quinoa, and drink LaCroix you won't have a stroke and in fact will live to be 150.


you also won't have balls and be a total faggot.


choice is yours I say.

Gluten free is a scam

[peter mcneil]

My kids call me 'the sugar monster' and they have some good hiding spots. I also would eat their treats like an asshole, often in the middle of the night. If I know the treats are hidden I don't go searching for them. How old are your little ones?

Gear up for the sugar flu, the first week is a bitch. Also make sure you really eliminate all sugars. It's in breads, sauces and if you don't know what you're doing it's hard to avoid. If you're over weight the lbs will melt off once you get into weeks 3 and 4 of no sugar.

I would compensate with a higher healthy fats diet, avocados, nuts, cheese and you could even throw in some food like bacon if you're really craving something tasty. Also drink a lot of water, you're going to dehydrate easily and may even sweat a lot depending on your levels of sugar intake. If you go straight ketosis you'll need to up your salt intake. This is another reason I feel ketosis isn't an optimal diet. You can also eat clean carbs if you're struggling. Big ass salads with lots of vegetables, sweet potatoes and vegetables like that. Good luck!

[LarryLaffer]

I read somewhere (probably on FB) that if you are gluten free, eat everything organic, shop at whole foods, eat quinoa, and drink LaCroix you won't have a stroke and in fact will live to be 150.


you also won't have balls and be a total faggot.


choice is yours I say.

Gluten free is a scam

biggest scam on whites since Joel Osteen if you ask me.

[LarryLaffer]

My kids call me 'the sugar monster' and they have some good hiding spots. I also would eat their treats like an asshole, often in the middle of the night. If I know the treats are hidden I don't go searching for them. How old are your little ones?

Gear up for the sugar flu, the first week is a bitch. Also make sure you really eliminate all sugars. It's in breads, sauces and if you don't know what you're doing it's hard to avoid. If you're over weight the lbs will melt off once you get into weeks 3 and 4 of no sugar.

I would compensate with a higher healthy fats diet, avocados, nuts, cheese and you could even throw in some food like bacon if you're really craving something tasty. Also drink a lot of water, you're going to dehydrate easily and may even sweat a lot depending on your levels of sugar intake. If you go straight ketosis you'll need to up your salt intake. This is another reason I feel ketosis isn't an optimal diet. You can also eat clean carbs if you're struggling. Big ass salads with lots of vegetables, sweet potatoes and vegetables like that. Good luck!

remember those hiding spots, because inevitably these will be the same places they stash their weed come high school. I know from experience.

[peter mcneil]

Very interesting study over a 24 week period of a ketogenic diet. I am wondering if I was eating too low sodium while in ketosis and if this could explain why I fatigued so much when playing sports.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/

Druff, this might be a diet you could pull off? You can eat a ton of delicious high fat foods. Once again I'd be if you went into ketosis for a 24 week period your blood pressure would dramatically improve.

[Mintjewlips]

https://www.dallasnews.com/life/life...ey-loving-life






Guy drinks alot of bottled spring water aswell.

If you're not drinking atleast 2 liters of water a day you're pretty much preventing a myriad of help to your body. It's amazing how little water people drink a day.

[cmoney]

I drank 10-15 a day regularly. I say "drank" but I am only on day 3 of not drinking so long ways to go.

However, 1 is never less than 6 percent for a beer. For example, I would drink a "Golden Monkey" six pack and count it as six beers even though it is around 10 percent per beer.

In the last 10 years, i never blacked out and rarely got drunk (maybe 1-2 times a year). So, i dont drink to get drink. I drink to get a steady buzz.

Peter's posts got to me and I took a step back and realized that the only reason i really have not suffered because of my drinking is because when the work load gets rough (because of hangovers or non motivation) is because i have the ability to delegate. I have gotten so good at delegation because of my drinking that i could probably go to prison for a year and only need to write one email a week and still do well financially.

With that said, the booze has started to compete with my energy and overall zest for life. I also am more anxious than before and that is almost for sure because of booze.

So who knows. I am day 3 and feel like shit but i am going to get to the two week mark if it kills me. Once i hit two weeks I will see how it all feels and take it from there. As shitty as i do feel my brain already feels as if it can process information easier. As if part of it had been in a constant semi sleep state and now just kind of coming out of hibernation.

The sugar craving thing is a trip though. The feeling is as if you need water but the water to quench the thirst is sugar. So bizarre.

Doctor friend coming over tonight to check vitals and bring me fluids and some other stuff in a banana bag. He seems to think the third night will be the worst so will see . Right now I feel shitty but no worse than third day of quitting smoking.

Cmoney I am glad you have woken up and seen the light, especially with that consumption level. Lifestyle changes now with you still being relatively young can reverse any damage pretty easily.

Big change from not that log ago, but a good one indeed.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...Serious-Thread

Thanks,

On day four now. Doctor came over last night gave me Ativan if needed. He thinks the worst is already behind me given my vitals and answers to a bunch of questions. Already seen a drop in blood pressure from 135/80 to 100/65 from first day of quitting. He basically said I got off lucky given the amount of drinking i have done and for the period of time (15 solid years).

He said there is still a chance of seizures but would be very unlikely at this point. Biggest issue is going to be cravings and jesus christ i cant stop thinking about sugar.

Feel better than yesterday and brain seems to coming more and more out of hibernation.

Going to ride this until two week mark and then see how it goes. I am not gong to lie . Even if I feel amazing after two weeks, it is going to be extremely hard not to drink again. This is simply because it is part of so many things i do and so many of the people i deal with. I cant imagine going to a football game, vegas etc and not drinking. The issue is that I cant control it once i get going so I either need to quit or I go back to the spot i was 4 days ago.