Have another vodka ya fuck. This doesn't deserve its own thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
Have another vodka ya fuck. This doesn't deserve its own thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
I merged tgull's new thread into this one.
Do not create new threads about this matter.
Excuse me Mr Druff. I have always supported you but you are creating a double standard. You have a FIRM policy of not allowing scamming posters. What is the deal with PLOL? He lent money and was not paid back. What is your policy? This is a HUGE double standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
I don't see any scamming. I see borrowing small sums of money and what appears to be a slightly delayed payback.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgullExcuse me Mr Druff. I have always supported you but you are creating a double standard. You have a FIRM policy of not allowing scamming posters. What is the deal with PLOL? He lent money and was not paid back. What is your policy? This is a HUGE double standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
If a few months pass and nobody is paid, then I would call it a scam, but I doubt that will happen.
In fact, while PLOL wasn't told that he was funding a drug habit, he also was never promised anything where the money was going. It was more along the lines of, "Hey buddy, I am in a bad spot, can you lend me money?", and PLOL said yes.
I would call it a scam if Willie lied about the purpose of the money, such as, "Hey, I am really sick and can't pay for my doctor's visit, can you spot me $250?" But he didn't do that. He just didn't specify why he needed it.
I would be surprised if Willie still owes anyone by the end of December.
I see a lot of scamming. PLOL lent money and was not paid back. In fact, Willy gloated about it. It's absolutely mind boggling you have just ignored it. This is exactly why you never should have had unilateral control of this site. You needed moderators, yet you operated in a vacuum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI don't see any scamming. I see borrowing small sums of money and what appears to be a slightly delayed payback.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
If a few months pass and nobody is paid, then I would call it a scam, but I doubt that will happen.
In fact, while PLOL wasn't told that he was funding a drug habit, he also was never promised anything where the money was going. It was more along the lines of, "Hey buddy, I am in a bad spot, can you lend me money?", and PLOL said yes.
I would call it a scam if Willie lied about the purpose of the money, such as, "Hey, I am really sick and can't pay for my doctor's visit, can you spot me $250?" But he didn't do that. He just didn't specify why he needed it.
I would be surprised if Willie still owes anyone by the end of December.
This is your worst moment as PFA owner.
do you not understand these debts are barely even two weeks old???Quote:
Originally Posted by tgullI see a lot of scamming. PLOL lent money and was not paid back. In fact, Willy gloated about it. It's absolutely mind boggling you have just ignored it. This is exactly why you never should have had unilateral control of this site. You needed moderators, yet you operated in a vacuum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
This is your worst moment as PFA owner.
that's a scam to you? being on time 39 out of 40 times, but being late once is scamming?
it was a debt that was late and plop came into this thread hot and flaming, saying i don't owe the debt anymore which i am still willing to pay towards a pfa freeroll
i mean, if you're trying to be funny whatever. but if you really think being a week late once out of a hundred times is scamming, then sir, congrats on being fucking perfect
I find it bemusing, to say the least, that "Druff" so flippantly created a sensationalist thread minutes after a misunderstanding regarding paypal procedures. If you're confused as to what I'm referring to, please check the record.
This is clearly a rolling, and plol was essentially shamed into bailing out a junky. For a right leaning forum, there were quite a few socialists pleading for handouts on "willie"'s behalf. Do you frauds have no shame? What ever happened to personal responsibility? I absolutely echo tgull's sentiments in this matter.
i really didnt give a mouse shit in spring about whether or not willie paid plol, i was just desperate for someone to show some class.
Given the similar reps, this isn't surprising. Pretty sure this sites considers you both one and the same anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
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Originally Posted by Krypt
you are such a pompous ass, you think you know everything and in reality you know fuck all unless you google it. you are more of a socialist than you think.
Willy never said he wasn't going to pay the guy with interest and then plop got his panties in a knot talked some shit, forgave the debt then took his ball and left simple as that.
I think aside from Willy's drug problem its all pretty funny that some one would flip out like a little girl for a few hundred bucks, especially if there is a good payback history.
i would say Willy is off the hook for the bread and is on the road to getting clean, Good Luck Bro!
Not sure if you're just saying this to add fuel to the fire, or are just blinded by a hatred for Willie for whatever reason, but this was clearly not a rolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
There has been absolutely no sign whatsoever that Willie did not plan on paying back PLOP. That and only that would constitute a rolling.
Just in case for some reason you have not absorbed the chain of events, it went down like this...
Willie created a thread saying he is addicted to heroin.
PLOP comes in late and says something to the effect of "Holy shit!!! Didn't know I was lending you money for a drug habit. Please pay me back ASAP. Also, how much money do you owe others".
He was then called out for having bad form considering to this point Willie had done nothing wrong and this should have been sent via PM.
PLOP deleted the post within minutes.
Willie responded to it anyway (when he didn't need to), admitted he owed PLOP money and said he would pay as soon as possible.
PLOP then said all good, hope you get better.
Then a little bitch fest started between the two about the vig PLOP was charging Willie.
PLOP tried to play the high and mighty card and said something to the effect of "I was hoping I would never have to post here anymore, but since I came off like a dick earlier, forget it, you don't owe me anything now, and if you still insist on paying me donate it to a suicide prevention charity for homosexuals".
Willie offers the money instead to a freeroll here, and that is where shit stands now.
How the fuck is any of that a rolling?
Personally I don't agree with the donation to a freeroll at all. Honestly it's almost on par with PLOP stating he doesn't want the money anymore and to donate it to the charity. It's kind of a gracious move but at the same time very douchey. If I were Willie I would still send the money to PLOP (juice included) regardless if he wants it or not. Again though, in no way does any of this constitute a rolling or a scam of any sort, and if you still think it does you clearly need to look up the definition of a scam.
I literally gave you the inside scoop on Alcoa (before it subsequently rose ~18% in less than 2 weeks), and this is how you decide to act?Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohGiven the similar reps, this isn't surprising. Pretty sure this sites considers you both one and the same anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
unreal... what a dumbfuck.
Willy BETRAYED this FORUM. That is a fact. He borrowed and did not pay back. He gave the fucking middle finger to all of us. He must pay back, otherwise we have basically a Jasep.
Shame on you Willy, Shame, Shame, Shame on you.
There was a time when the PLOP WillieMc exchanges were guaranteed lulz. Always gold.
You ever meet PLOP irl? How far back did you two run?
Casualties are mounting.
I am sorry Willy but you crossed the line. You owe a man money and you are mocking him and not paying.
I lost all respect for you. So long pal.
never met him, but i would have 100% went to a cards/cubs game with him or something if he were in townQuote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
i thought we were friends. it pissed me off that he was trying to squeeze every dollar out of me when he knew i was in a bad spot, and also his response to this thread. like a lot of people have said, he could have sent me a pm.
and i agree with vegas that donating to the pfa freeroll can be seen as douchey. but i'm not going to donate to plop's charity of choice, either.
i will offer him the money and he can give it to charity if he would like to
Shame on you Bottomset. Of all people on this forum, you should not only be the last person here to cast stones at someone battling addiction, but also trying to turn this into something that it's clearly not, just to fit your fucked up, perverse agenda of trying to kick a guy while he's down. Dis-fucking-gusting. It's like you hate yourself so much the only thing that makes you feel better is this type of behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
For shame!
Well, did you really expect anything better than bottomstain?! Id love a sneak peek how this dumbfuck actually even functions in life on a daily basis. It has to be a harrowing experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369Shame on you Bottomset. Of all people on this forum, you should not only be the last person here to cast stones at someone battling addiction, but also trying to turn this into something that it's clearly not, just to fit your fucked up, perverse agenda of trying to kick a guy while he's down. Dis-fucking-gusting. It's like you hate yourself so much the only thing that makes you feel better is this type of behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
For shame!
Look man, I like Willy, but he played on our fears. He played on our emotions. He took an honest poster like PLOL (albeit a douche but honest) and stole from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369Shame on you Bottomset. Of all people on this forum, you should not only be the last person here to cast stones at someone battling addiction, but also trying to turn this into something that it's clearly not, just to fit your fucked up, perverse agenda of trying to kick a guy while he's down. Dis-fucking-gusting. It's like you hate yourself so much the only thing that makes you feel better is this type of behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
For shame!
You and I are not from the same cloth Vegas1369. I am honest and you do what you do(felting). I still think you are decent and all, but I am just from a different upbringing I suppose.
Good Lord. Does Bottomset have downs syndrome, or what exactly are we dealing with here? Anyone have any insight?
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Originally Posted by Gordman
Realize that multi-account tgull is having the time of his life watching the reaction to his posts. He's winding you up as he's done with each persona. I doubt I'm wrong but if so then he's a moron.
He did not steal from him. This is a very simple fact that for some reason you are not understanding. I personally believe you are just trolling, but if you really think Willie stole in this situation then you are a fucking retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgullLook man, I like Willy, but he played on our fears. He played on our emotions. He took an honest poster like PLOL (albeit a douche but honest) and stole from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
You and I are not from the same cloth Vegas1369. I am honest and you do what you do(felting). I still think you are decent and all, but I am just from a different upbringing I suppose.
Also, I'd just like to know if for no other reason than a good laugh, what you mean by "you do what you do(felting)".
Your whole argument is based on an extremely flimsy assumption. What do I mean by this? Well, how do we know this whole heroin addiction saga isn't an elaborate hoax? I for one am a contrarian, and I REFUSE to buy into the, yet again, flimsy notion that "willie" is telling us the truth. There is no proof and there's virtually no way to keep him accountable. You can choose to blindly take a junky's word as the gospel truth, but you will have to live with the consequences.
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Originally Posted by Gordman
Look man, I am just given an honest assessment.
PLOL was wronged, BIG TIME. Willy ripped him off and I think that is bullshit. You might not like that, but I am always standing up for abused.
Your post would have some merit if PLOP himself said that Willie stole from him, but he didn't, in fact he said the opposite, so your stance here is idiotic at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
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Originally Posted by tgull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordman
Look man, I am just given an honest assessment.
PLOL was wronged, BIG TIME. Willy ripped him off and I think that is bullshit. You might not like that, but I am always standing up for abused.
NO, he wasn't. If you had bothered to correctly COMPREHEND the situation, you would know this. My 7 year old could comprehend this. You already know this, but you are being a fucktard in an attempt to gain attention, because your mother apparently didn't give you enough attention when you were scamming the milk from her titty.
for anybody interested in an update...
i called my doc today and told the receptionist i relapsed and needed a new script for 50mg/day to stabalize myself, so i can work and not have to worry about being dopesick
she said they would call if there was any problem (otherwise it would be ready for me to pickup tomorrow)
well, they never called back so tomorrow i can go pick up the script and hopefully find a pharmacy to fill it
this will be a huge step towards starting to live a normal life again, and not have to struggle daily with being dopesick (or the fear of being dopesick)
it sucks after all these years weaning myself down to just 10mg per day, and having to take such a big step back, but at this point it really is my best option
edit:
i never mentioned i was referring to methadone for those who didn't figure that out
Answer this question: As of right now, has he paid (in full) plol?
have you paid off your house in full?Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
if not, are you STEALING from your mortgage company? if you are two weeks late one month, are you STEALING from them?
how fucking dumb are you?
LOL, ok. LOL. Little drink here, drink there, whoops little felt here in my pocket. Not saying this or that but well whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369Your post would have some merit if PLOP himself said that Willie stole from him, but he didn't, in fact he said the opposite, so your stance here is idiotic at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
how many times have you used since starting this thread? Can't really relate buddy, but isn't 50mg to high considering you were living on 10mg for so long? Again, I know nothing about this, just hoping for the best for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
Also, pay the little stuck up faggot his money when you can and never talk to him again. Him not ever coming back here isn't going to change anything besides us having one less aids riddled homo running around thinking he's better than everyone else all cuz he can suck a bowling ball through a straw.
WillieMcFML:
Never tried heroin, but I've taken weaker hydrocodone pills after surgeries a long while back (mostly Vicodin and Tylox, Percocet once).
Just from taking the pills I can get some vague idea why people might get hooked on the dope so badly.
There's a raging heroin epidemic in the US now and a brand new center is being opened this month right in St. Louis (south county off of I-55) specifically designed to deal with opiate addiction.
Maybe check this place out when you have some free time and see if they can help get you off that final 10-50 mg when you're ready? Looks like they won't force anyone to do any inpatient stuff so you can focus on your job.
http://www.monetwork.org/
GL to you.
Krypt, I know you are much smarter than this. Why are you going full retard right now? Jerk off again, all the backed up jizz is wetting your brain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Krypt
LOL... I have been fully retired from the service industry for close to a year now, so this post holds no merit either.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgullLOL, ok. LOL. Little drink here, drink there, whoops little felt here in my pocket. Not saying this or that but well whatever.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
He's right Todd. While your at it, why not enforce that rule about people only being allowed ONE account? If this drunk retard forgets his password...make him send a request to have it reset like everyone else. Not sure why you allow him to have as many accounts as he wants, while others cannot. That's a double standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgullExcuse me Mr Druff. I have always supported you but you are creating a double standard. You have a FIRM policy of not allowing scamming posters. What is the deal with PLOL? He lent money and was not paid back. What is your policy? This is a HUGE double standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
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Originally Posted by vegas1369LOL... I have been fully retired from the service industry for close to a year now, so this post holds no merit either.Quote:
Originally Posted by tgull
WHAT!?
I was counting on you making me a cocktail or two if I ever finally make a trip to Vtown! What do i do now?
Wait a couple years till we have Amsterdam style coffee shops... Buds are on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GordmanQuote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
WHAT!?
I was counting on you making me a cocktail or two if I ever finally make a trip to Vtown! What do i do now?
PLOP loaned WillieMcFML this money because of the word he heard on the street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgmqcZfuXZs
I50mg isn't too high because he's been using for awhile now, and he knows where he stabalizes, but if they gave it to a clean person it would kill them dead in short order.Quote:
Originally Posted by handicapmehow many times have you used since starting this thread? Can't really relate buddy, but isn't 50mg to high considering you were living on 10mg for so long? Again, I know nothing about this, just hoping for the best for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieMcFML
Also, pay the little stuck up faggot his money when you can and never talk to him again. Him not ever coming back here isn't going to change anything besides us having one less aids riddled homo running around thinking he's better than everyone else all cuz he can suck a bowling ball through a straw.
This is why he's kind of stuck. A clinic will take you up to 50mg and beyond, but they can't just take your word for it. They start a person on like 3mg daily and slowly titrate them up at a rate they are comfortable dispensing until a person stabalizes. To get to 50 is probably a month or two during which people have to use while increasing or they'll simply be sick still. Once they reach a stable dose it's fine, but the run up for the first weeks for someone using is essentially worthless. You're still going to need to use heroin in addition to methadone.
That's why the only play that made sense was falling on the mercy of a doctor who he already had a relationship with, because that guy is taking a huge gamble to take your word for it. He needs to trust you're not suicidal, or working him and simply going to sell them and continue to use, etc.
Methadone is super dangerous to a person who isn't already prescreened opiate tolerant by their own addiction. It's unlike oxy's and other heavy duty narcotics because those are generally out of your bloodstream when they quit working. Methadone is still in your system long after you've quit feeling it's effects. It scares the shit out of doctors and kills a ton of recreational users because they take a pill, it wears off, so they take another not understanding that there is a compounding effect because the previous dose is still in your system. So doctors err on the super conservative side when starting someone out. Methadone is actually a fantastic pain medication for chronic pain suffererers without addiction issues, because once they find the sweet spot, it works for years without needing to be raised, but it's so dangerous at the start that most pain manageent doctors are too afraid to use it for liability reasons. It's only generally used when someone with chronic pain has ridden the conventional Oxy train up so high that they really can't go any further. At that point, the doctor knows the patient has a huge opiate tolerance already and can go from 4 80mg oxy's to 40mg of methadone and a patient might be fine on that same level for years because of the way methadone stays in the system. For Willie though, it's also why he hesitated to come off that last 10. Kicking methadone is a much longer process than kicking heroin because of how it stays in system. So the same thing that makes it work so well works against you when coming off.
Had he been in a clinic, he likely would have kicked, because in liquid form they can go from 10 to 9 to 8 because it's auto filled with a calibrated machine, but he was on a script for pills from a doctor, and there aren't 10mg pills, then 9mg pills, etc. it's probably a 10 to a 5, and that drop is brutal, which is why he likely lingered and it came back to bite him in the ass when he fucked up and found himself without.
*i dont know why my autocorrect wants to correct stabilizes to the incorrect spelling, but I'm not going back to fix all of that shit*