Time to get on the TRUMP train

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Originally Posted by El Gallo

The way you insult people using personal information is creepy as shit. How terrible do you feel about your life? Lewfather 2.0

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Whats creepy is posting private information about yourself on a public forum as a desperate plea for attention and expecting for that information not to be subjected to ridicule, how long have you been on these forums??

What's also creepy is allowing people with a gender crisis to join the military and totally ignoring the fact that those issues come with severe mental illness to say the least.

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Oh, so you being creepy is my fault... got it.

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Originally Posted by gimmick

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

No, having the debate is a good thing. I believe it would eventually lead to greater tolerance for trans if the debate was held openly without fear of being labelled a transphobe or w/e.

But just leave the bible bashers out of the discussion as we know they're never changing their views.

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Doubt anyone in this thread has denied that there's a correlation between being trans and mental illnesses. Only thing that has been denied is the causation.

Discrimination among other reasons have been shown to have an effect in mental well being. Also in this case less discrimination is better, just in case you were confused how it works.

No one is saying you should get a pass from anything regarding mental or physical health while enlisting/serving just because you're transgender.

It's weird for me that this ban is even legal.

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This ban is sort of a good thing for the trans community imo. It has highlighted the discrimination that they face. It has people (like me) who have never really given their plight a second thought standing up for them, all be it in a small way via twitter and a convo with a family member.

But this debate is happening all over the world as we speak, and I don't think they've ever been shown this much support.

Really believe this will go a long way in their fight for greater tolerance.

Gay community went through all the same shit.

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

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Originally Posted by gimmick

Doubt anyone in this thread has denied that there's a correlation between being trans and mental illnesses. Only thing that has been denied is the causation.

Discrimination among other reasons have been shown to have an effect in mental well being. Also in this case less discrimination is better, just in case you were confused how it works.

No one is saying you should get a pass from anything regarding mental or physical health while enlisting/serving just because you're transgender.

It's weird for me that this ban is even legal.

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This ban is sort of a good thing for the trans community imo. It has highlighted the discrimination that they face. It has people (like me) who have never really given their plight a second thought standing up for them, all be it in a small way via twitter and a convo with a family member.

But this debate is happening all over the world as we speak, and I don't think they've ever been shown this much support.

Really believe this will go a long way in their fight for greater tolerance.

Gay community went through all the same shit.

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Yea some good might come out of it.

Quickly looking at some numbers roughly 1 in 200 transgendered in active duty (6.6k to 1.4 million by the highest estimate) and the medical costs related to them are 8.4m (the highest estimate) from a total budget of 6.2b (1 in 700 ratio) from a report by Rand institute from the distant past of 2016.

https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1530.html

...and the Guardian article in case anyone thought that medical costs were a real reason for any of this...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...udget-pentagon

Yep, the military spends 5x more on Viagra than the total medical cost for all trans personnel.

Amongst other factors, this decision was based on reasons of ignorance and religion. NOT lol $$$.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/im...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by gimmick https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/im...post-right.png

Doubt anyone in this thread has denied that there's a correlation between being trans and mental illnesses. Only thing that has been denied is the causation.

Discrimination among other reasons have been shown to have an effect in mental well being. Also in this case less discrimination is better, just in case you were confused how it works.

No one is saying you should get a pass from anything regarding mental or physical health while enlisting/serving just because you're transgender.

It's weird for me that this ban is even legal."

I must take issue. While not conforming is a cause of many life problems mental illness and mental well being are totally different. You first have to define mental illness and I'm sure the military has it's basic standards but transgenderism is a physical phenomenon that does not come with nor produce mental illness. If Joe-Jane can pass the tests put forth, you're in the Army. Discrimination 100%

It's still ok to call trans people physically ill though right?

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Originally Posted by blake

is it too stigmatizing to even entertain the possibility that there is a correlation between being trans and being mentally ill? are we at that point?

cause like 50% of trans people try and kill themselves but that's probably fake news.

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No, having the debate is a good thing. I believe it would eventually lead to greater tolerance for trans if the debate was held openly without fear of being labelled a transphobe or w/e.

But just leave the bible bashers out of the discussion as we know they're never changing their views.

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but an anonymous forum like this is the only place you can even have this discussion.

to even question whether a group that has a near-50% suicide attempt rate may have underlying mental issues would cause you to be immediately unemployable.

for god's sake, there isn't one person on this forum that believes minors should be permitted to have sex reassignment surgery, but to even express that thought publicly would make you an outcast.

that's where we are in 2017

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Originally Posted by blake

for god's sake, there isn't one person on this forum that believes minors should be permitted to have sex reassignment surgery, but to even express that thought publicly would make you an outcast.

that's where we are in 2017

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I believe that anyone who thinks juvenile reassignment surgery is a good thing can be pigeon holed with the mintjewlips of this world

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Originally Posted by limitles

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/im...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by gimmick https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/im...post-right.png

Doubt anyone in this thread has denied that there's a correlation between being trans and mental illnesses. Only thing that has been denied is the causation.

Discrimination among other reasons have been shown to have an effect in mental well being. Also in this case less discrimination is better, just in case you were confused how it works.

No one is saying you should get a pass from anything regarding mental or physical health while enlisting/serving just because you're transgender.

It's weird for me that this ban is even legal."

I must take issue. While not conforming is a cause of many life problems mental illness and mental well being are totally different. You first have to define mental illness and I'm sure the military has it's basic standards but transgenderism is a physical phenomenon that does not come with nor produce mental illness. If Joe-Jane can pass the tests put forth, you're in the Army. Discrimination 100%

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Probably. Variations of 3rd sexes have been around for thousands of years and have at times been more acceptable in other cultures.

Just weird for me that someone could say that sure you qualify, but someone like you doesn't, so you don't qualify because reasons.

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Originally Posted by blake

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

No, having the debate is a good thing. I believe it would eventually lead to greater tolerance for trans if the debate was held openly without fear of being labelled a transphobe or w/e.

But just leave the bible bashers out of the discussion as we know they're never changing their views.

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but an anonymous forum like this is the only place you can even have this discussion.

to even question whether a group that has a near-50% suicide attempt rate may have underlying mental issues would cause you to be immediately unemployable.

for god's sake, there isn't one person on this forum that believes minors should be permitted to have sex reassignment surgery, but to even express that thought publicly would make you an outcast.

that's where we are in 2017

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For now i wouldn't allow minors to get any kinda plastic surgery (or hormones) that's not corrective. Maybe in 50 years when there are no more risks to surgeries and reversing your bionic cock operation takes 15mins we can revisit this issue.

Also there's long list of things you probably shouldn't say publicly and it's been that way bout always.

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Originally Posted by gimmick

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Originally Posted by limitles

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/im...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by gimmick https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/im...post-right.png

Doubt anyone in this thread has denied that there's a correlation between being trans and mental illnesses. Only thing that has been denied is the causation.

Discrimination among other reasons have been shown to have an effect in mental well being. Also in this case less discrimination is better, just in case you were confused how it works.

No one is saying you should get a pass from anything regarding mental or physical health while enlisting/serving just because you're transgender.

It's weird for me that this ban is even legal."

I must take issue. While not conforming is a cause of many life problems mental illness and mental well being are totally different. You first have to define mental illness and I'm sure the military has it's basic standards but transgenderism is a physical phenomenon that does not come with nor produce mental illness. If Joe-Jane can pass the tests put forth, you're in the Army. Discrimination 100%

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Probably. Variations of 3rd sexes have been around for thousands of years and have at times been more acceptable in other cultures.

Just weird for me that someone could say that sure you qualify, but someone like you doesn't, so you don't qualify because reasons.

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And of course they don't give reasons because it's double talk all the way to the goose step

SHALL WE MOVE ON FROM TRANNIES??

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Originally Posted by blake

for god's sake, there isn't one person on this forum that believes minors should be permitted to have sex reassignment surgery, but to even express that thought publicly would make you an outcast.

that's where we are in 2017

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I believe that anyone who thinks juvenile reassignment surgery is a good thing can be pigeon holed with the mintjewlips of this world

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A society that takes issue with teens choosing reassignment surgery but where circumcision of babies is standard practice is a fucked up society.

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Originally Posted by thesidedish

SHALL WE MOVE ON FROM TRANNIES??

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the trump thread becoming the great tranny debate is somehow perfect

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weird, just noticed he include reince priebus in the tweet, right after the #swamp. is he trying to call reince out as the leaker?

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Originally Posted by blake

is it too stigmatizing to even entertain the possibility that there is a correlation between being trans and being mentally ill? are we at that point?

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i dont think there is any correlation between being trans and mental illness, beyond a lot of mentally ill people choosing to be trans.

does that make sense? its a subtle point.

and ive been fishing literally all day and i feel like im trying to carve an ice swan with a ball peen hammer at the moment.

lets put it like this; if i have to choose between hiring a trans person and a cis person to work with, im giving absolutely no fucks whatsoever about the trans person being trans unless they are half assing it and cant pass and look like a fucking weird stomach turning messtastrophe like bruce jenner.

then into the garbage their resume goes.

but im basically never looking at a trans person and being like UH OH THIS PERSON MIGHT BE MENTALLY ILL.

unless cant pass / messtastrophe. thats someone who has to see nothing but horror and disgust reflected back in strangers faces until they kill themselves. which will tax on a nigga.

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Originally Posted by blake

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

No, having the debate is a good thing. I believe it would eventually lead to greater tolerance for trans if the debate was held openly without fear of being labelled a transphobe or w/e.

But just leave the bible bashers out of the discussion as we know they're never changing their views.

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but an anonymous forum like this is the only place you can even have this discussion.

to even question whether a group that has a near-50% suicide attempt rate may have underlying mental issues would cause you to be immediately unemployable.

for god's sake, there isn't one person on this forum that believes minors should be permitted to have sex reassignment surgery, but to even express that thought publicly would make you an outcast.

that's where we are in 2017

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And those with significant mental health history would not be allowed to join military anyways whether transgendered or not. The screening for mental health has always been in place and yes a lot of transgendered would not be allowed into army as a result. But there are also many mentally healthy transgendered who are totally fit to serve.

By your logic native indian Americans should be banned as well.

Contrary to popular opinion the army is relatively picky on who they accept as far as similar jobs.

And yes there is huge correlation between trans and mental illness. Largely due to increased victim.ization and discrimination from community. Although also ste.s fro. Gender dysphoria

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Originally Posted by El Gallo

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

Whats creepy is posting private information about yourself on a public forum as a desperate plea for attention and expecting for that information not to be subjected to ridicule, how long have you been on these forums??

What's also creepy is allowing people with a gender crisis to join the military and totally ignoring the fact that those issues come with severe mental illness to say the least.

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Oh, so you being creepy is my fault... got it.

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Let me reiterate in a language you might understand, since you seem to not comprehend english, I'll say it in espanol...

 

no mames weyyyyyy

yeah quick reminder, trump is literally a draft dodger and this is all about financing his bullshit wall.


that said

also literally

The Rooster is mentally ill, he loves his heritage and his homeland. He makes post after post about how shitty America is, yet his home country is literally a 7th tier country that doesn't even have birth control to control all the over population, the people are almost 99% religious and are more devout then any southern Baptist, yet he freely shits on this country as if his is any better.......fucking hypocrite.

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Originally Posted by thesidedish

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weird, just noticed he include reince priebus in the tweet, right after the #swamp. is he trying to call reince out as the leaker?

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has there been 1 story about rinsed penis??

Don't get me started on the British, the whole country is masochistic, who the fuck begs to be ruled by a monarchy that has a German lineage.

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It's still ok to call trans people physically ill though right?

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no

OH MY GOD YOU POOR MEMELESS FAGGOTS

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Originally Posted by blake

is it too stigmatizing to even entertain the possibility that there is a correlation between being trans and being mentally ill? are we at that point?

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i dont think there is any correlation between being trans and mental illness, beyond a lot of mentally ill people choosing to be trans.

does that make sense? its a subtle point.

and ive been fishing literally all day and i feel like im trying to carve an ice swan with a ball peen hammer at the moment.

lets put it like this; if i have to choose between hiring a trans person and a cis person to work with, im giving absolutely no fucks whatsoever about the trans person being trans unless they are half assing it and cant pass and look like a fucking weird stomach turning messtastrophe like bruce jenner.

then into the garbage their resume goes.

but im basically never looking at a trans person and being like UH OH THIS PERSON MIGHT BE MENTALLY ILL.

unless cant pass / messtastrophe. thats someone who has to see nothing but horror and disgust reflected back in strangers faces until they kill themselves. which will tax on a nigga.

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Choosing to be tran is equivalent to choosing to be gay, black, etc. You may enjoy any of these options but choice is not part of it except for a few who hop on the transgender bandwagon. Not every trans opts for an operation

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

Don't get me started on the British, the whole country is masochistic, who the fuck begs to be ruled by a monarchy that has a German lineage.

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Who the fuck begs to be ruled by a patriarchy that has a German lineage?

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

Don't get me started on the British, the whole country is masochistic, who the fuck begs to be ruled by a monarchy that has a German lineage.

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lol, I hear this quite a lot from our retarded former colony.

Why is it only Americans who believe that Britain is actually ruled by The Queen?

The monarchy stopped holding power literally hundreds of years ago. They are pretty much just props for business and the tourist industry now.

That said, the old hag is still more popular in America than your own President.

"The tremendous medical costs" of trans health care comes out to about 0.0014 percent of the annual military budget.


True story.

Can someone explain the most common anatomy of the trannies that cant fight anymore? Was it more common to have chicks with dick or dudes with vaginas? It has to be the first one right?

Ok, a glorified mascot you fuckin wanker.

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Originally Posted by thesidedish

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Fake what?

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Ok I just finally thought about this for more than two seconds and if these people could make it through boot camp and actually want to stay in the military there is probably no people tougher than them in the whole armed service. I can't even imagine the names the dude from Full Metal Jacket was coming up with for the guys with vaginas, and all the other hazing throughout their military career they must have endured. These people must be ridiculously iron willed to want to go through that daily humiliation. Holy fucking shit it must have been horrible for them. Now after all that Trump sends them back to Heshe Pennsylvania. Jesus Christ that is so ice cold.

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Originally Posted by blake

is it too stigmatizing to even entertain the possibility that there is a correlation between being trans and being mentally ill? are we at that point?

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i dont think there is any correlation between being trans and mental illness, beyond a lot of mentally ill people choosing to be trans.

does that make sense? its a subtle point.

and ive been fishing literally all day and i feel like im trying to carve an ice swan with a ball peen hammer at the moment.

lets put it like this; if i have to choose between hiring a trans person and a cis person to work with, im giving absolutely no fucks whatsoever about the trans person being trans unless they are half assing it and cant pass and look like a fucking weird stomach turning messtastrophe like bruce jenner.

then into the garbage their resume goes.

but im basically never looking at a trans person and being like UH OH THIS PERSON MIGHT BE MENTALLY ILL.

unless cant pass / messtastrophe. thats someone who has to see nothing but horror and disgust reflected back in strangers faces until they kill themselves. which will tax on a nigga.

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yeah and this might come off as weird considering my position here, but i actually disagree with the transgender military ban.

i would have zero issues at all working with a trans person and would not disqualify them from military service unless there is actual evidence (that you know trump doesn't have), which indicates hiring them causes some sort of legit military concern, which i would highly doubt.

also i'm generally for laws protecting trans people and am in no way against them doing whatever they want to do (i.e., surgery) to make themselves happy. if it works, great.

i admit there's a bit of circular reasoning with the trans/mentally ill debate. i'm sure being ostracized and suffering discrimination 24/7 is likely to lead to depression and anxiety, hence higher suicide rates.

on the other hand, are we so polite in our culture now where we say that a person believing he or she was born to the wrong gender -- and then acts on that belief by mutilating themselves -- is a perfectly normal thing? is it really so controversial to say that such a person may have issues uncconected to the gender dysphoria? again, if it makes them happy, then go for it. just saying, it's not really normal behavior imo

honestly, i probably have much more issues than the average trans person considering that i've been neglecting my family the whole night just to rant about trans people in a trump thread on a 5th tier poker forum, and have been engaging in such activity for the past decade.

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Originally Posted by sonatine

"The tremendous medical costs" of trans health care comes out to about 0.0014 percent of the annual military budget.


True story.

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Since 2011, the bill for covering drugs like Viagra, Cialis and Levitra for active and retired military personnel and eligible family members totalled $294 million -- nearly as much as four U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, says the Military Times.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pentagon...ney-on-viagra/

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

Don't get me started on the British, the whole country is masochistic, who the fuck begs to be ruled by a monarchy that has a German lineage.

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lol, I hear this quite a lot from our retarded former colony.

Why is it only Americans who believe that Britain is actually ruled by The Queen?

The monarchy stopped holding power literally hundreds of years ago. They are pretty much just props for business and the tourist industry now.

That said, the old hag is still more popular in America than your own President.

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OH LOOK AT LOTF BEING FORCED TO ADMIT THAT HIS COUNTRY GOT CURBSTOMPED BY A RETARDED COLONY IN THE 1700's

-fin

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Originally Posted by limitles

Since 2011, the bill for covering drugs like Viagra, Cialis and Levitra for active and retired military personnel and eligible family members totalled $294 million -- nearly as much as four U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighters, says the Military Times.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pentagon...ney-on-viagra/

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Then stop putting shit in the food that stops making their dick work. That 294 milly is prob a drop in the bucket compared to these companies that supply those drugs tax bill for that time period. If you risk your life u should at least be able to fuck.

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Originally Posted by thesidedish

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weird, just noticed he include reince priebus in the tweet, right after the #swamp. is he trying to call reince out as the leaker?

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apparently that's exactly what he was doing

http://www.mediaite.com/online/scara...s-for-leaking/

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game of thrones y'all