Time to get on the TRUMP train

Been rolling the polls around in my own mind lately.

My thoughts started with the declining Television numbers overall. This is polling too. PFA has talked about the declining NFL numbers.

I made a post about watching kids watch NFL. The fantasy kids fire up NFL Red Zone with their phone in hand. Are they watching any games from kickoff to post game?

Neilson has no way to measure this. Snail mail and land lines.

Television viewership really isn't declining. It's just different and can't be measured now. Bad polling numbers.

I have a kid who just bought a smart tv. It has sat in his room for a couple of weeks. I offered to add another cable box and he said he doesn't want it but thanks. True story. You know how he is viewing media. It doesn't involve Comcast. He is an example of those not measured

I know political polling is lagging in similar fashion to Neilson. Same issues with contacting people. Polls start with their understanding of the overall demographic. They have only so much money and time for a given poll. If they feel they have reached out to a disproportionate demographic like middle aged white males they will weight that number to conform to their overall view of the country's voters.

Then the fivethirtyeight type flawed intellectual attribution ramps up.

Again, I suspect polling will be proved flawed and wanting in this increasingly complicated new era. Much will be learned this election.

I am not saying Polls are completely wrong about Clinton. I suspect results amongst certain demographics are gonna shock the world. Then again, I will enjoy a Brexit like humbling of the polls and experts too

I think what tells the real story about the result of this election is in Hillary's own social media. She has practically no support on her own page. Compare this to Trump. Despite democrats have notoriously cheated on social media metrics (paying for Facebook likes, paid trolls, etc) they getting absolutely demolished on their own social media pages this time around. ALL internet metrics point MASSIVELY for Trump no matter how you dissect the data. The few Hillary supporters on her pages seem fake, or if real they have no real defense or intelligent stance for her. Only comments like "We are with you Madame Secretary!" Weak shit like that. If you go to her Facebook you will likely see comments in the ballpark of 50-1 anti Hillary and Pro-Trump. It's amazing! All this DESPITE their paid shills.

Hillary's campaign is sunk and the social media tells the story very clearly. Fuck the polls. It's well documented that they oversample Dems by a huge margin. Just look at the social media. She's getting eaten alive. She would have lost without the FBI re-opening the case but the damn is now about to break wide open and KimdotBOMB-Wikileaks may just add some more icing to this already delicious cake. Besides, not only does Trump have a highly motivated base which is growing each day, but Hillary lacks ANY enthusiasm. I've watched her rallies in which she needs to get Michele O, J-Lo, Jay-z all to TRY to generate some interest and all you see is 50-100 people with dull expressions on their faces despite the celebrity support. Her Live youTube streams (when she rarely has them) are filled with more Thumb down votes then up and less than 1600 viewers and the chat is all TRUMP Supporters so of that 1600 viewers I'd say at least 1000 are Trump. So she's drawing views in the hundreds. Think about that! Again, where are her supporters?? They don't exist. Compare this to Trump rallies, and the writing is on the wall. 35,000 views on one channel alone. Massive upvotes. 16,000 r/The_donald viewers ONLINE at one time on Reddit while other political forums have much less total engaged. Trump is a closer and America respects a guy with his relentless stamina and work ethic.

Hillary's base is either staying home and sleeping like her or switching sides on election day. There is no motivation to get behind a criminal. Even most dishonest liberals can't do this. Landslide for Trump.

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

Im not on a side les.

If you want to label me in this false paradigm then call me an anarchist. Down with the fucking system.

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The anarchists shifted seemlessly into Republicans this year. Didn't you get the memo?

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Originally Posted by limitles

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

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Originally Posted by blake

good point mint. on an unrelated note, would you care to comment on this?

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LOL

This is like the media saying wiki leaks was obtained in an illegal manner so just disregard them. The only important part of a message is the message itself. We can argue about semantics all day, but facts are self evident.

I'm way more qualified to talk about alex jones then any sniveling delusional hack journalist that takes a 3 minute video on youtube purposely out of context. I have been listening to the guy since 2003, and it's so hilarious to watch him purposely troll the media with these ridiculous statements, which he admits are metaphors he uses to troll the media, which they fall for everytime. He actually says it before or after his crazy rants.

Nonetheless, Alex is a provocateur of the highest order, the fact that Hillary Clinton mention him in particular in a speech was a surreal moment to say the least. And while the memory of some of you might be fading, it wasn't that long ago that he and wiki leaks were legitimized during the bush administration by certain democratic or left leaning news orginazations. I specifically remember the democrats in austin seeing him as THE anti establishment journalist. I find it funny how now those same democrats are calling him a "conspiracy theorist".

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I can't even discern what side you're on by this diatribe, but if you've listened to Alex Jones for 13 years you should check into a government facility of your choice.

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Completely agree. If they couldn't tell they were being played years ago it was maybe somewhat forgivable but when a guy that has given so much good information now is endorsing a Pres. Candidate that had made it this far you have to see it.

I figured it out long ago when someone as smart and informed as him continued to spew 9/11 shit as if that info coming out doesn't play right into the enliltes hand to usher in the NWO.

So happy to see us agreeing again, friend.

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Originally Posted by limitles

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Originally Posted by Mintjewlips

LOL

This is like the media saying wiki leaks was obtained in an illegal manner so just disregard them. The only important part of a message is the message itself. We can argue about semantics all day, but facts are self evident.

I'm way more qualified to talk about alex jones then any sniveling delusional hack journalist that takes a 3 minute video on youtube purposely out of context. I have been listening to the guy since 2003, and it's so hilarious to watch him purposely troll the media with these ridiculous statements, which he admits are metaphors he uses to troll the media, which they fall for everytime. He actually says it before or after his crazy rants.

Nonetheless, Alex is a provocateur of the highest order, the fact that Hillary Clinton mention him in particular in a speech was a surreal moment to say the least. And while the memory of some of you might be fading, it wasn't that long ago that he and wiki leaks were legitimized during the bush administration by certain democratic or left leaning news orginazations. I specifically remember the democrats in austin seeing him as THE anti establishment journalist. I find it funny how now those same democrats are calling him a "conspiracy theorist".

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I can't even discern what side you're on by this diatribe, but if you've listened to Alex Jones for 13 years you should check into a government facility of your choice.

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Completely agree. If they couldn't tell they were being played years ago it was maybe somewhat forgivable but when a guy that has given so much good information now is endorsing a Pres. Candidate that had made it this far you have to see it.

I figured it out long ago when someone as smart and informed as him continued to spew 9/11 shit as if that info coming out doesn't play right into the enliltes hand to usher in the NWO.

So happy to see us agreeing again, friend.

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My heart beats harder........zombies forever

The notion that Hillary having fewer people at her rallies is some sort of disadvantage, is a flawed argument imo.

We had Margaret Thatcher. Probably the most polarising politician in British history - loved by the few, hated by the many... She wouldn't draw anything like the crowds her opponents were bringing in on the campaign trail. Yet she completely stomped them when is came to polling day.

One opponent for example. Michael 'man of the people' Foot. could gather huge angry, chest beating crowds. But when it came down to it. The quiet and content majority would always defeat the loud 'movement like' few.

Honestly believe these crowds which are vastly outnumbering Hillay's at every event held will have zero bearing when it comes to counting votes.

All I know is that Victoria Nuland (PNAC Vicki) needs to resign right the fuck now. What an insult to the people who lost their lives in these illegal wars.



http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...Kbf?li=BBnbfcL
Why Is #HillaryForPrision Trending on Twitter?
They had to misspell it to get past Twitters filter. The fucking media is rigging this election. They decided to take it upon themselves to decide who will win the presidency.
The fairness doctrine needs to return during national elections imo. They almost put a traitor in the White House and still might.

Hillary cheated in the debates against Bernie. Got the questions in advance geeez.
People are re watching
and it looks like she may of had all the questions in advance.

Reddit comment
"Also remember when the health care question came up in the last debate?
They accidentally told Hillary to go first and she tried to get Donald to go first because she had that answer ready.
The first sentence of her response was something like "well what Donald is going to say..."
Fucking corrupt cunt"

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

The notion that Hillary having fewer people at her rallies is some sort of disadvantage, is a flawed argument imo.

We had Margaret Thatcher. Probably the most polarising politician in British history - loved by the few, hated by the many... She wouldn't draw anything like the crowds her opponents were bringing in on the campaign trail. Yet she completely stomped them when is came to polling day.

One opponent for example. Michael 'man of the people' Foot. could gather huge angry, chest beating crowds. But when it came down to it. The quiet and content majority would always defeat the loud 'movement like' few.

Honestly believe these crowds which are vastly outnumbering Hillay's at every event held will have zero bearing when it comes to counting votes.

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I'm not sure if what you are saying is true. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Still, how would you explain her abysmal showing on social media? That takes a lot less effort than showing up in person to a rally. Also it gives them the chance to rip into the Donald from the comfort of their own couch. Just looking around a forum like this demonstrates how much people love to do this sort of thing. So where are her supporters? Where are the donald haters? I think much of America has warmed to him BIGLY.
And not to mention I'm not quite sure it's appropriate to mention Shillary in the same sentence as Margaret Thatcher. LEt's not disrespect the Brit like that.

Donald is our most polarizing political figure as well. He's been falsely accused as being this and that blah blah. Plenty of negativity against him but he is overcoming this daily. He is also getting crowds. He's like Thatcher with the crowds. The few as you say are actually many and I think this is best demonstrated by the social media data than by actual physical crowds, though having both imo is telling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_J1yRCLS2A

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_J1yRCLS2A

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a person lacking any semblance of honesty. She's pathetic. Can't even read a cue card.

Today she teeets: "With the election just 8 days away...Trump should immediately disclose all of his ties and connections to the Kremlin and its associates."

Desperation is setting in big time. This is all she's got?

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

The notion that Hillary having fewer people at her rallies is some sort of disadvantage, is a flawed argument imo.

We had Margaret Thatcher. Probably the most polarising politician in British history - loved by the few, hated by the many... She wouldn't draw anything like the crowds her opponents were bringing in on the campaign trail. Yet she completely stomped them when is came to polling day.

One opponent for example. Michael 'man of the people' Foot. could gather huge angry, chest beating crowds. But when it came down to it. The quiet and content majority would always defeat the loud 'movement like' few.

Honestly believe these crowds which are vastly outnumbering Hillay's at every event held will have zero bearing when it comes to counting votes.

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I'm not sure if what you are saying is true. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Still, how would you explain her abysmal showing on social media? That takes a lot less effort than showing up in person to a rally. Also it gives them the chance to rip into the Donald from the comfort of their own couch. Just looking around a forum like this demonstrates how much people love to do this sort of thing. So where are her supporters? Where are the donald haters? I think much of America has warmed to him BIGLY.
And not to mention I'm not quite sure it's appropriate to mention Shillary in the same sentence as Margaret Thatcher. LEt's not disrespect the Brit like that.

Donald is our most polarizing political figure as well. He's been falsely accused as being this and that blah blah. Plenty of negativity against him but he is overcoming this daily. He is also getting crowds. He's like Thatcher with the crowds. The few as you say are actually many.

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If you don't want to disrespect Thatcher. Then please allow me to do it for you.

She was a vile and nasty heartless cunt who shit all over millions of the working class people she was supposedly elected to represent.

My argument is not about the popularity of Trump. He clearly has a hard core following that are huge in number.

It's just that people without a gripe against the establishment is probably larger than you think. And those people tend not to make much noise in the sense of going out of their way to beat the drum for 'their' pick... They will just show up on the day and vote, like they always do.

That's just how I see this panning out. Could easily be wrong of course.

But the truth is, and what makes this election so brilliantly fascinating. Is that nobody REALLY knows how this is all gonna play out.

All totally unprecedented for any modern civilised election.

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

The notion that Hillary having fewer people at her rallies is some sort of disadvantage, is a flawed argument imo.

We had Margaret Thatcher. Probably the most polarising politician in British history - loved by the few, hated by the many... She wouldn't draw anything like the crowds her opponents were bringing in on the campaign trail. Yet she completely stomped them when is came to polling day.

One opponent for example. Michael 'man of the people' Foot. could gather huge angry, chest beating crowds. But when it came down to it. The quiet and content majority would always defeat the loud 'movement like' few.

Honestly believe these crowds which are vastly outnumbering Hillay's at every event held will have zero bearing when it comes to counting votes.

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I'm not sure if what you are saying is true. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Still, how would you explain her abysmal showing on social media? That takes a lot less effort than showing up in person to a rally. Also it gives them the chance to rip into the Donald from the comfort of their own couch. Just looking around a forum like this demonstrates how much people love to do this sort of thing. So where are her supporters? Where are the donald haters? I think much of America has warmed to him BIGLY.
And not to mention I'm not quite sure it's appropriate to mention Shillary in the same sentence as Margaret Thatcher. LEt's not disrespect the Brit like that.

Donald is our most polarizing political figure as well. He's been falsely accused as being this and that blah blah. Plenty of negativity against him but he is overcoming this daily. He is also getting crowds. He's like Thatcher with the crowds. The few as you say are actually many and I think this is best demonstrated by the social media data than by actual physical crowds, though having both imo is telling.

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Im pretty confident of the following:

1) Hillary wins
2) Trump becomes a pariah for indelibly marginalizing the GOP
3) You stay poor, uneducated, and angry
4) You find an active community of like minded bottom feeders at Todd Witteles' PokerFraudAlert.com. Come for the lack of other communities that can stomach you, stay for the /pol/ memes that your new besties grab from /r/TrumpWasRobbed

One thing Trump is great at, is speaking at rallies like it's all off the cuff. But unlike when Hillary speaks, I've noticed when Trump is speaking live and the cameras are rolling. They always bring the cue cards into focus. Which imo takes away some of the edge he has over Hillary in that department.

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

One thing Trump is great at, is speaking at rallies like it's all off the cuff. But unlike when Hillary speaks, I've noticed when Trump is speaking live and the cameras are rolling. They always bring the cue cards into focus. Which imo takes away some of the edge he has over Hillary in that department.

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Trump had to become 'more Presidential', and like he said many months ago, "Believe me I can be more Presidential than any of them". LOL The guy backs it up. I believe he's effectively mixed in high quality speeches via teleprompter, hitting all the important points in an orderly fashion while mixing in some off the cuff remarks along the way but staying on point. After all he does have 4 of these to do a day now. He's learned on the job and done a masterful job at it in such a short amount of time. Even his detractors must be silently impressed. He could fart on stage into the mic and be more presidential than her. But this is what you get when you have a REAL leader running for POTUS. People notice. All those uneducated poor Trump supporters, LOL. When Trump's huge black 757 pulls into front of the hangar it's inspiring and I finally know what Chris Matthews was talking about in terms of getting chills up the leg, although mine are more in my spine, something dishonest liberals don't have. That plane wasn't paid for with taxpayer funds. That's inspiring in itself! The guy is a bad ass and has sacrificed a lot for us.

16 down and one to go and this last one standing is looking really easy peasy now.

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

The notion that Hillary having fewer people at her rallies is some sort of disadvantage, is a flawed argument imo.

We had Margaret Thatcher. Probably the most polarising politician in British history - loved by the few, hated by the many... She wouldn't draw anything like the crowds her opponents were bringing in on the campaign trail. Yet she completely stomped them when is came to polling day.

One opponent for example. Michael 'man of the people' Foot. could gather huge angry, chest beating crowds. But when it came down to it. The quiet and content majority would always defeat the loud 'movement like' few.

Honestly believe these crowds which are vastly outnumbering Hillay's at every event held will have zero bearing when it comes to counting votes.

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I'm not sure if what you are saying is true. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Still, how would you explain her abysmal showing on social media? That takes a lot less effort than showing up in person to a rally. Also it gives them the chance to rip into the Donald from the comfort of their own couch. Just looking around a forum like this demonstrates how much people love to do this sort of thing. So where are her supporters? Where are the donald haters? I think much of America has warmed to him BIGLY.
And not to mention I'm not quite sure it's appropriate to mention Shillary in the same sentence as Margaret Thatcher. LEt's not disrespect the Brit like that.

Donald is our most polarizing political figure as well. He's been falsely accused as being this and that blah blah. Plenty of negativity against him but he is overcoming this daily. He is also getting crowds. He's like Thatcher with the crowds. The few as you say are actually many and I think this is best demonstrated by the social media data than by actual physical crowds, though having both imo is telling.

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You've heard the expression, when the circus comes to town...... this is no different, including a real clown and the awe struck audience consisting of children.

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

One thing Trump is great at, is speaking at rallies like it's all off the cuff. But unlike when Hillary speaks, I've noticed when Trump is speaking live and the cameras are rolling. They always bring the cue cards into focus. Which imo takes away some of the edge he has over Hillary in that department.

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He also seems to be totally unable to make any significant penetration into almost any states with meaningful electoral college votes. He's doing great in the human backwater states but thats always been his bread and butter. Where he has consistently failed is crafting a message that resonates with people who arent essentially abandoned by a rapidly evolving nation.

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Originally Posted by BAGGINS

I'm not sure if what you are saying is true. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Still, how would you explain her abysmal showing on social media? That takes a lot less effort than showing up in person to a rally. Also it gives them the chance to rip into the Donald from the comfort of their own couch. Just looking around a forum like this demonstrates how much people love to do this sort of thing. So where are her supporters? Where are the donald haters? I think much of America has warmed to him BIGLY.
And not to mention I'm not quite sure it's appropriate to mention Shillary in the same sentence as Margaret Thatcher. LEt's not disrespect the Brit like that.

Donald is our most polarizing political figure as well. He's been falsely accused as being this and that blah blah. Plenty of negativity against him but he is overcoming this daily. He is also getting crowds. He's like Thatcher with the crowds. The few as you say are actually many and I think this is best demonstrated by the social media data than by actual physical crowds, though having both imo is telling.

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Im pretty confident of the following:

1. 1) Hillary wins

2) Trump becomes a pariah for indelibly marginalizing the GOP
3) You stay poor, uneducated, and angry
4) You find an active community of like minded bottom feeders at Todd Witteles' PokerFraudAlert.com. Come for the lack of other communities that can stomach you, stay for the /pol/ memes that your new besties grab from /r/TrumpWasRobbed

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No shit? After 1000 posts of you basically repeating Hillary is going to win, I was certain you changed your mind since your last 100 posts on this the last week.

You seem a little terse today Sonatine. Might be time to shut down the computer for an hour and take a walk. You are now calling people you don't know poor.

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Originally Posted by Lord of the Fraud

One thing Trump is great at, is speaking at rallies like it's all off the cuff. But unlike when Hillary speaks, I've noticed when Trump is speaking live and the cameras are rolling. They always bring the cue cards into focus. Which imo takes away some of the edge he has over Hillary in that department.

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He also seems to be totally unable to make any significant penetration into almost any states with meaningful electoral college votes. He's doing great in the human backwater states but thats always been his bread and butter. Where he has consistently failed is crafting a message that resonates with people who arent essentially abandoned by a rapidly evolving nation.

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Are you sure it's the Trump supporters who are angry? KEK

The Globalist experiment is over. Get used to it. If you were one of the few who greatly benefited by these free trade policies then the deplorable send their regards. Since you're so smart and impressed with yourself I'm sure you'll find a way to land on your feet. Also, the border won't likely be closed for another 6-12 months, so there's plenty of time for a final push in getting your drugs over the border with little scrutiny.

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You are now calling people you don't know poor.

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Statistically speaking I'm well within the boundaries of every conceivable predictive model.

The lack of enthusiasm for Hillary -- which dates back to her primary fight with Bernie -- is what saddens me most about this election.

Just about any other candidate besides Trump would have beaten her, but she ran incredibly well to be up against the easiest Republican candidate to beat in quite a long time.

Switch 2012 and 2016, put Romney now and Trump back in 2012, and Romney crushes her.

But forget Romney. Put robotic, too-youthful Marco Rubio or boring John Kasich up against her, and they still win.

The only argument Hillary supporters really have at this point is, "She's not Trump", and that's probably going to be good enough to win.

Good job Republicans. Another FAIL choice at the primaries, just like the Tea Party Senate candidates you kept picking.

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