Missing White Woman: 2021 Edition (Gabby Petito)

It's yet another example of a small police department lacking the experience for dealing with complex, high-profile crime. This was first seen with the Jon-Benet Ramsey case.

In general, you want a small police department investigating a small crime, and a large police department investigating a big crime.

For example, if someone vandalizes your car, you will be laughed out of the LAPD if you report it. In a small town, with little else to do, they'll actually do some investigation on something like this. However, you want the LAPD on the job if you're dealing with a murder, because they have the experience and resources to handle it, whereas a small police department will be inexperienced and clueless.

They've already fucked this up by letting Brian Laundrie slip away, given the high probability the entire time that he killed her. At the very least, they should have made contact with him in person, and then kept him under surveillance 24/7.

Can we talk about hypothetically how good todge would be at murdering women hed literally never make a mistake kid knows all the angles THE INS THE OUTS THE DOS THE DONTS our boy would be fucking on point

todge were going out on a limb team laundrie for you?

is the only thing holding you back from full on laundrie team the fact that were not sure he killed the other 2 chicks you know ur on board with the 2012 nissan transit van as a smart choice of car like that has to tickle you

Going to take a flyer on this one.. Autopsy is gonna show she offed herself in fact.. Lets be honest why the hell would he kill her and leave the vehicle behind especially if it had evidence in it.. if he really did kill her he wouldve burned the damn thing up in the wilderness.. Instead it was left intact not far from where she was found.. While he was no saint neither was she.. She supposedly had assaulted him in the past too they both seemed like they were a pair of whackjobs who deserved each other.. Just playing Devils advocate here honestly but I suspect its going to come out different then everybodys assumed it was.

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Going to take a flyer on this one.. Autopsy is gonna show she offed herself in fact.. Lets be honest why the hell would he kill her and leave the vehicle behind especially if it had evidence in it.. if he really did kill her he wouldve burned the damn thing up in the wilderness.. Instead it was left intact not far from where she was found.. While he was no saint neither was she.. She supposedly had assaulted him in the past too they both seemed like they were a pair of whackjobs who deserved each other.. Just playing Devils advocate here honestly but I suspect its going to come out different then everybodys assumed it was.

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You don’t read very good. He didn’t abandon the van where she was killed. He drove it back to Florida.

You think his parents helped him run/kill himself because she offed herself? That’s be dum

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I'm assuming you mean Jordan Graham. She actually received a rather harsh 30 year sentence after pleading guilty, and lost her appeal:

Graham was convicted of second-degree murder in December 2013, five months after she shoved her husband of seven days off a cliff in Glacier National Park. In March 2014, she was sentenced to 30 years in prison. She is currently incarcerated at a federal prison in Alabama.

She's still in prison in Alabama, not slated for release until 2039.

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Oh weird. I was following it at the time, and was sure I remembered her getting something like 8 years. Maybe I'm thinking of a different case with a lenient sentence.

Honestly she deserved life in prison for this. He wasn't abusive, she wasn't defending herself, and she just abrutply decided to push him off (with his back turned) after they had some kind of argument at Glacier National Park, presumably about her wanting to back out of the marriage.

His friends had previously warned him that she was "weird" and that something seemed wrong with her. Her friends described her as childlike and seemingly asexual, and not someone who was ready to get married.

Anyway, this was straight up murder, and then she (poorly) falsified evidence to cover it up. Glad she at least got 30 for this.

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I’m guessing that on the way down, her soon-to-be-dead-husband wished he’d instead chosen to get an annulment.

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Oh weird. I was following it at the time, and was sure I remembered her getting something like 8 years. Maybe I'm thinking of a different case with a lenient sentence.

Honestly she deserved life in prison for this. He wasn't abusive, she wasn't defending herself, and she just abrutply decided to push him off (with his back turned) after they had some kind of argument at Glacier National Park, presumably about her wanting to back out of the marriage.

His friends had previously warned him that she was "weird" and that something seemed wrong with her. Her friends described her as childlike and seemingly asexual, and not someone who was ready to get married.

Anyway, this was straight up murder, and then she (poorly) falsified evidence to cover it up. Glad she at least got 30 for this.

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I’m guessing that on the way down, her soon-to-be-dead-husband wished he’d instead chosen to get an annulment.

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You are without a doubt the dumbest and most unfunny poster on this site. Not even close. Please jackknife your truck in a lake.

While we're on the topic of converting vans into campers, seriously, spend the extra money and get the Mercedes Sprinter diesel. I have one of the Nissan high roofs too, underrated for cheaper gas versions on this. These two were in one of the small Ford Transits, which is obviously just way too small. Completely avoid the full size Transit vans in any model as well - they are all trash plagued with problems, particularly with the rear differentials. But seriously, two people should not be trying the van life thing in one of the Transit Connects, definitely contributed to the murder.

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While we're on the topic of converting vans into campers, seriously, spend the extra money and get the Mercedes Sprinter diesel. I have one of the Nissan high roofs too, underrated for cheaper gas versions on this. These two were in one of the small Ford Transits, which is obviously just way too small. Completely avoid the full size Transit vans in any model - they are all trash plagued with problems, particularly with the rear differentials. But seriously, two people should not be trying the van life thing in one of the Transit Connects, definitely contributed to the murder.

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The funny thing is that the van has actually gotten some plaudits since all the publicity. One supposed witness claimed they remembered the van in the Tetons because it was "cute" and how they thought at the time that it was "perfect" to drive around for couples road trips.

I've seen comments on Reddit where people have said they liked the modified van and would consider taking something like that in the future (minus the murdering, of course).

But yeah it did look very small to me. I thought it may not be as bad for them, since they were both young and neither of them was tall, so it's more tolerable to be crammed into a small space. You're probably not wrong that the cramped space contributed to the murder. Clearly they were getting on each other's nerves, and then starting around August 12, things got considerably worse, and 2 weeks later she was dead.

I mentioned that similar murder at Glacier National Park in 2013. That murder occurred on July 7, and I was at Glacier (though unaware of the murder) about 2 weeks later.

In this case, Gabby sent a postcard to Brian's niece from Garden of the Gods in Colorado Springs, in late July. I was at Garden of the Gods in mid-July (and Sanlmar was just there). Again, about 2 weeks apart, though in this case the murder didn't happen until a month after that.

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Looks like he’s 500 miles away hiding as suspected:

https://nypost.com/2021/09/21/brian-...-cam-cops-say/

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Yeah very hard to hide these days with so many cameras everywhere. If you are all over the news and trying to hide away, your only shot is really to have an accomplice (one not easily known to be linked to you) holing you up in their house/apartment, and you committing never to leave until everything dies down. But of course it's very hard to find such a person to do this, as they will be risking their own freedom for helping you, and anyone willing to take such a risk will likely be known to authorities.

His smartest play here would have been to drive to Mexico before her body was found, and hope to disappear down there somewhere. Staying in Florida and trying to survive as a backpacker (without being caught) is just LOL. How long does he think that will last?

High chance they round him up within the next 48 hours.

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It would depend on who he or she killed. If it was some douchebag like Tucker Carlson or Gavin Newsom, the answer would be a big no. If it was a child? Maybe I would turn them in.

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Thats Honest...t.y for that Jayjami.

Let us broaden the Q.....Your son admits to you He has killed his 2 yr GF who you like and you know her folks......

That's a tuff spot I never wish no one in.... That is a Q.

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I don’t think I’d turn him in, but I wouldn’t abet his capture or his escape.

I'm guessing he told his parents a story that she was getting increasingly crazy during the trip, attacked him numerous times, and one time when he defended himself, he accidentally killed her.

Parents probably realized how bad this would look (especially since he just left the body behind and drove home), so they probably attempted to help him avoid being arrested/convicted for this. If your kid, who had no history of violence, came home and claimed he accidentally killed his girlfriend during a fight, and then panicked and left the scene, you'd probably have a lot of sympathy and try to help them get out of it, too. It's different than finding out your kid just straight up murdered someone, because there your moral objections to helping him might kick in, rather than a case where you think it was an accident which will appear to be murder.

I actually think there's some chance that it was an accidental killing, but he'll never be able to convince anyone of it at this point. Provided they take him alive, the criminal trial for this will be very interesting. A good defense attorney has a lot to work with, thanks to the August 12th video of Gabby hitting him, while he appears to be the calmer of the two. I can easily see this being pled down to manslaughter. There is a decent chance he will just off himself if the cops close in, though.

It looks to me like Laundrie and his family will be ordering legal services off the value menu. So I don’t know that he will fare too well in court.

As well, Laundrie is referred to as “Gabby Petito’s boyfriend”. He doesn’t even have a name until a few paragraphs into any given article. He needs Bauer’s agent, Rachel Luba, to do some PR. It could have been consensual. That sort of thing.

Oh, and there were unconfirmed reports of Brian being spotted in Mobile, AL, prior to this recent revelation of being in Baker, FL.

Mobile is only 95 miles from Baker, so that makes the Mobile reports more likely to be accurate. He was probably in Mobile, read that people spotted him, and he drove back to northern FL in what he thought was a remote area where he could hide.

Also, the SJWs are all up in arms that Gabby is getting attention because she's white, whereas "missing women of color are ignored".

Well, yeah, that's true.

What's also true is that ALL males are ignored when they go missing, regardless of their race or social class. Articles like this one don't even bother to mention that fact, which of course is a very important detail when analyzing which missing people get national coverage.

The question should be: "Why is it only white females under 40 who get attention when they go missing?", not, "Why don't women of color get attention when they go missing?"

SJWs like to avoid talking about the lack of attention given to missing males, because that puts the dreaded straight white male in the same "ignored" box as women of color, and obviously they don't want you to think about that.

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I'm guessing he told his parents a story that she was getting increasingly crazy during the trip, attacked him numerous times, and one time when he defended himself, he accidentally killed her.

Parents probably realized how bad this would look (especially since he just left the body behind and drove home), so they probably attempted to help him avoid being arrested/convicted for this. If your kid, who had no history of violence, came home and claimed he accidentally killed his girlfriend during a fight, and then panicked and left the scene, you'd probably have a lot of sympathy and try to help them get out of it, too. It's different than finding out your kid just straight up murdered someone, because there your moral objections to helping him might kick in, rather than a case where you think it was an accident which will appear to be murder.

I actually think there's some chance that it was an accidental killing, but he'll never be able to convince anyone of it at this point. Provided they take him alive, the criminal trial for this will be very interesting. A good defense attorney has a lot to work with, thanks to the August 12th video of Gabby hitting him, while he appears to be the calmer of the two. I can easily see this being pled down to manslaughter. There is a decent chance he will just off himself if the cops close in, though.

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At this point, a homicide has probably been committed. Zero evidence of murder however. If he turns himself in, he can probably cop a negligent homicide (manslaughter) plea and be out in 5 years with good behavior. The DA would likely go for it, unless there is other forensic evidence available.

Hiding in a swamp in Florida is not a good idea.

They will probably find the boyfriend's remains in the belly of an alligator.


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Tigerpiper just gave me this negative rep, for my post about the SJW article:

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This isn't whataboutism. I was talking directly about the complaint lodged in the article -- that missing women of color are ignored, therefore it's racist to only cover the missing white women.

However, the article completely ignores that missing men are never covered by national media. What's the reason for that? Sexism against men?

Clearly the reason for the heavy coverage of missing white women isn't racism, but rather that young white women are in a special category of their own, and given special treatment in missing persons situations. The reason for this is complex, but it's definitely not racism, or white males would be covered when they go missing (and they aren't).

Coroner confirmed its Gabby, as well as being a homicide.

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Coroner confirmed its Gabby, as well as being a homicide.

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Well that murders my theory doesnt it.. whoops..

Between Tampa and Naples Florida, I'd consider North Port to be the second shittiest place to live with Lehigh Acres being the shittiest. North Port is the type of the place you don't stop to get gas at night. Lehigh you don't stop in period. Walter would likely find himself being dragged behind a large truck in both towns.

I bet he is wishing he would have buried her to eliminate the evidence. Thankfully he didn’t because it’s bad enough what her family is going through, at least they can get closure by having her remains.

If he strangled her or shot her he’s F’ed. Most other causes of death a good defense attorney will have something to work with to form a self defense argument.

Just more reason to get a job and become a productive member of society. Shortcuts seldom pay off and in this case she paid the ultimate price for being an unemployed hippie freak.

Feel sad for her parents who did the best they could. Other than making their marriage work obviously.

Hopefully she at least got to see the most famous bear in the country 399 nd her 4 cubs before her end.

oh look another one of todgers retarded friends showed up on pfa

lets hope the boz goes on a desert runner style posting spree liven this place up a bit

So Wind up is Gabby and Laundry did the 2 ladies.....

At Gabbys behest Laundry went along...

was remorseful and they argued and he choked her out he got so furious and was scared of her............................. to be continued...............

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Just more reason to get a job and become a productive member of society. Shortcuts seldom pay off and in this case she paid the ultimate price for being an unemployed hippie freak.

Feel sad for her parents who did the best they could. Other than making their marriage work obviously.

Hopefully she at least got to see the most famous bear in the country 399 nd her 4 cubs before her end.

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actually her dad seems like an idiot.

I can’t think of very many cases where this much money/resources were spent hunting for someone that does not have a warrant and is not wanted. Simply a missing person at this time.

The big question is - What are they going to do if they find him alive? They can’t question him about her disappearance without his lawyer. Even if he was present, I don’t think they answer any questions, as it has worked for him so far.
Once they tell Brian he was reported missing, and he tells them he is happy where he is at, the police have to make a decision since they can’t legally take him in.

- Decide they have enough evidence to charge him, then arrest him.
- Put him under surveillance until autopsy is complete. Then decide to charge/ Not to charge.
- Find a reason to take him for a psychological hold. Not sure the exact rules or timeframe for this in Florida.
- Give him a bullet and save taxpayers 7 Figures for a trial and housing him in prison for the next who knows how many years.

If he did kill her, he deserves everything he has comming. Also, he got back to Florida quick. If the hitchhiker story is true, she dropped him off at 6pm on August 29th. He was reported to be back home on Sep. 1st at 10:30am. 2500 mile drive. Can you imagine the thoughts going through his head?

If more murders refused to speak to police at all as he is doing, far less murders would be solved. Almost all people in his position who are not represented, want to talk to police and explain how it was an “accident”. How they were in a fight and she “accidentally” died.

I’m glad they found her body to give her loved ones some closure, but if he would have buried her, it would be interesting how things would have progressed with no body and him not saying a word.

Maybe after he had a couple weeks to rationalize, he left Florida to go back and bury her?

Your last line might have been what was going on. At the time he rushed back to Florida, obviously he had no idea this would become such a huge story, and he probably wasn't thinking straight.

I'm guessing he knew she would be found unless he better disposed of the body, and had his parents run interference while he attempted to get back there by car and bury her. If you look, he was found in that general direction, 500 miles northwest (600 miles if you believe the Mobile reports).

Once news hit that the body was found (which was mostly a stroke of luck, due to that video), he turned back around and started hiding out.

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Your last line might have been what was going on. At the time he rushed back to Florida, obviously he had no idea this would become such a huge story, and he probably wasn't thinking straight.

I'm guessing he knew she would be found unless he better disposed of the body, and had his parents run interference while he attempted to get back there by car and bury her. If you look, he was found in that general direction, 500 miles northwest (600 miles if you believe the Mobile reports).

Once news hit that the body was found (which was mostly a stroke of luck, due to that video), he turned back around and started hiding out.

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Possibly. Be crazy to think you could make it all the way back and not be seen throughout entire journey. It isn’t like he could show up and say he was there to help look for her. He hadn’t even reported her disappearance and they’d never let him out of their sight.

I am curious where her body was found exactly? It said remote area, but for them to say it’s a homicide immediately,, did he shoot her? Like I assumed when she’d been discovered, it was at the bottom of some cliff where if she had a broken neck or whatever, it could be explained as from the fall or inconclusive. To say immediately homicide was surprising.

Reading about the park, they’ve been historically busy for months. Over 700k visitors in June. Over a million in July and August. By far more visitors this year than in its 92 year history for like a year straight. Obviously getting locked down made people want to get out in nature.

Even in a 300k acre park, seems like it would be hard to get in and out with the idea no one is going to spot the most famous kid being plastered all over news every day, but that’s thinking rationally. He clearly hasn’t for a month now.

I also see they have like a dozen divers in that park they are searching for him. Don’t know what that means? If they think he’s killed himself, or they think he’s disposed of a gun or something else there given how quickly they ruled homicide.

I haven’t paid close attention, so maybe her exact manner of death has been reported. I haven’t seen it. If that was his plan, seems like a really poor one given how famous he was by that point. There were already multiple reports by Mobile. By the time he got that far back, he’d have had a caravan of reporters following him.

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Your last line might have been what was going on. At the time he rushed back to Florida, obviously he had no idea this would become such a huge story, and he probably wasn't thinking straight.

I'm guessing he knew she would be found unless he better disposed of the body, and had his parents run interference while he attempted to get back there by car and bury her. If you look, he was found in that general direction, 500 miles northwest (600 miles if you believe the Mobile reports).

Once news hit that the body was found (which was mostly a stroke of luck, due to that video), he turned back around and started hiding out.

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Possibly. Be crazy to think you could make it all the way back and not be seen throughout entire journey. It isn’t like he could show up and say he was there to help look for her. He hadn’t even reported her disappearance and they’d never let him out of their sight.

I am curious where her body was found exactly? It said remote area, but for them to say it’s a homicide immediately,, did he shoot her? Like I assumed when she’d been discovered, it was at the bottom of some cliff where if she had a broken neck or whatever, it could be explained as from the fall or inconclusive. To say immediately homicide was surprising.

Reading about the park, they’ve been historically busy for months. Over 700k visitors in June. Over a million in July and August. By far more visitors this year than in its 92 year history for like a year straight. Obviously getting locked down made people want to get out in nature.

Even in a 300k acre park, seems like it would be hard to get in and out with the idea no one is going to spot the most famous kid being plastered all over news every day, but that’s thinking rationally. He clearly hasn’t for a month now.

I also see they have like a dozen divers in that park they are searching for him. Don’t know what that means? If they think he’s killed himself, or they think he’s disposed of a gun or something else there given how quickly they ruled homicide.

I haven’t paid close attention, so maybe her exact manner of death has been reported. I haven’t seen it. If that was his plan, seems like a really poor one given how famous he was by that point. There were already multiple reports by Mobile. By the time he got that far back, he’d have had a caravan of reporters following him.

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It would be a Hail Mary attempt to save himself, if this were what he was doing. Nothing you wrote is incorrect, and there's a high probability of failure, but he may have seen it as his only way out (and he may have been right).

Picture this: You murder your girlfriend during a fight while camping in the Tetons, and you do it in a way which would be an obvious murder once the body is examined. Maybe strangled, maybe shot, maybe stabbed, whatever... it wasn't a fall which you could explain as an accident. You panic and drive back to Mommy and Daddy, thousands of miles away. You stuff the body in some remote area where people aren't that likely to venture, and you count on the fact that the summer is ending to bring down the foot traffic in the area anyway.

Then the case becomes a huge national story, and there's tremendous resources put into looking for her. You realize that it's just a matter of time until that body is found. You realize your only play is to get back there, and hide the body better. Your parents pretend you're still home, and you get a head start. Nobody is looking for you -- they all think you're hiding in the house. You plan to drive into the Tetons with a different car not associated with you, and wear a baseball cap and face mask. Show up at 2am, nobody is manning the entrance gates, and nobody will see you anyway.

Then you get the bad news that the body was located, through the bad luck of a YouTube vlogger having taken video of your car in a location very close to where you left the body. So much for the plan to hide the body better! Time to turn around and hide somewhere in nature!

I can easily see the above having happened.

His body hiding spot may have actually been good enough, had it not been for the bad luck of the vlogger video. It's even possible he didn't bury the body because he counted on animals eventually eating it. Honestly, it's unlikely it would have been found if this weren't such a high profile case.

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Possibly. Be crazy to think you could make it all the way back and not be seen throughout entire journey. It isn’t like he could show up and say he was there to help look for her. He hadn’t even reported her disappearance and they’d never let him out of their sight.

I am curious where her body was found exactly? It said remote area, but for them to say it’s a homicide immediately,, did he shoot her? Like I assumed when she’d been discovered, it was at the bottom of some cliff where if she had a broken neck or whatever, it could be explained as from the fall or inconclusive. To say immediately homicide was surprising.

Reading about the park, they’ve been historically busy for months. Over 700k visitors in June. Over a million in July and August. By far more visitors this year than in its 92 year history for like a year straight. Obviously getting locked down made people want to get out in nature.

Even in a 300k acre park, seems like it would be hard to get in and out with the idea no one is going to spot the most famous kid being plastered all over news every day, but that’s thinking rationally. He clearly hasn’t for a month now.

I also see they have like a dozen divers in that park they are searching for him. Don’t know what that means? If they think he’s killed himself, or they think he’s disposed of a gun or something else there given how quickly they ruled homicide.

I haven’t paid close attention, so maybe her exact manner of death has been reported. I haven’t seen it. If that was his plan, seems like a really poor one given how famous he was by that point. There were already multiple reports by Mobile. By the time he got that far back, he’d have had a caravan of reporters following him.

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It would be a Hail Mary attempt to save himself, if this were what he was doing. Nothing you wrote is incorrect, and there's a high probability of failure, but he may have seen it as his only way out (and he may have been right).

Picture this: You murder your girlfriend during a fight while camping in the Tetons, and you do it in a way which would be an obvious murder once the body is examined. Maybe strangled, maybe shot, maybe stabbed, whatever... it wasn't a fall which you could explain as an accident. You panic and drive back to Mommy and Daddy, thousands of miles away. You stuff the body in some remote area where people aren't that likely to venture, and you count on the fact that the summer is ending to bring down the foot traffic in the area anyway.

Then the case becomes a huge national story, and there's tremendous resources put into looking for her. You realize that it's just a matter of time until that body is found. You realize your only play is to get back there, and hide the body better. Your parents pretend you're still home, and you get a head start. Nobody is looking for you -- they all think you're hiding in the house. You plan to drive into the Tetons with a different car not associated with you, and wear a baseball cap and face mask. Show up at 2am, nobody is manning the entrance gates, and nobody will see you anyway.

Then you get the bad news that the body was located, through the bad luck of a YouTube vlogger having taken video of your car in a location very close to where you left the body. So much for the plan to hide the body better! Time to turn around and hide somewhere in nature!

I can easily see the above having happened.

His body hiding spot may have actually been good enough, had it not been for the bad luck of the vlogger video. It's even possible he didn't bury the body because he counted on animals eventually eating it. Honestly, it's unlikely it would have been found if this weren't such a high profile case.

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Nothing you posted is incorrect either and completely possible.

As I said, trying to put rational thoughts into the head of an irrational kid. It all depends how he killed her. The minute this becomes national news I’m going with some story about her attacking me again,

I didn’t want her to get arrested so I left and gave her enough money to get a taxi and a plane ticket home even if it’s not true. How they going to prove I didn’t?

That police video makes at least a portion of the country believe I could be telling the truth and arguing I could be innocent. You’d look like an asshole and horrible boyfriend. but you could say I was embarrassed and worried the police would hold us in a mental hospital after the last episode and didn’t want to worry her parents yet. She was off enough in that video where you could make some plausible story that you were afraid to be around her because she was threatening to kill herself or acting irrationally. It’s not a good story, but it’s better than this.

That assumes this idiot didn’t shoot her with his own gun or leave physical evidence all over her while killing her. If he did that, the whole getting back to the body angle makes more sense, even if it was never going to work. He was toast the moment it became a big story.

I originally assumed he just pushed her off a cliff, which when you add the video and her repeated claims of anxiety, could have been easily argued a suicide. Fuck, he could have ran her over with the van and said she ran out in front of it in some psychotic state and likely got away with it given how she was struggling mentally. He must have killed her in some heat of the moment idiotic way if he felt the need to return.

Yeah if no body was found, it would be hard to convict him of anything serious. As you said, he could craft a story about her acting increasingly crazy, and him finally feeling the need to leave her. He could claim he left her with her phone, assumed she'd call her parents, and would find her way home. Then she never appeared, and he realized something horrible must have happened. He could claim he had no idea what happened after he left her -- maybe she hitchhiked and was picked up by some psycho who kidnapped or murdered her? Who knows? He could simply claim to have left her in good shape, and they'd have to prove otherwise.

He's acutally really fucked now. They definitely have enough to arrest him, thanks to that video. She was last seen with him, was traveling with him, and his van was filmed parked and empty, on the last day she was known alive, very close to the place her murdered body was found. That's some pretty strong circumstantial evidence right there.

Will be interesting to hear what was found at the autopsy regarding manner of death, and any evidence found directly linking Brian. Either way he's fucked if they catch him. However, good chance he's going to hels himself before they get him.

Should have just bailed the country to Montenegro.

Then have his parents ship him Bitcoin.

Front page CNN this morning is all about the "racism" of Missing White Woman Syndrome.

The left never misses an opportunity to exploit a tragedy to push a narrative.

Somehow they're not interested in exploring why "Missing White Woman Syndrome" doesn't apply to older white women, or why white men get zero attention from the media when they vanish. Gotta be racism, though!

Apparently she was seen on August 27, at a restaurant in Jackson, WY.

Brian Laundrie had an "incident" at the Merry Piglets Tex-Mex restaurant there, where he was yelling at a waitress, and Gabby was "in tears". The restaurant verified that this occurred, but said there's no video of the incident, and they wouldn't give futher details.

Anyway, that's a confirmation of Gabby being seen alive on August 27, as well as confirmation that Brian was agitated that day. I'm guessing the murder occurred not too long after that. He was probably in a bad mood over something that happened at the restaurant, she was freaking out, a fight happened, and he killed her somehow.

August 27 was the same day that a really weird text came from Gabby's phone to her mom, calling her grandfather "Stan", even though she never called him by his first name. That was probably sent by Brian shortly after the murder, in a desperate attempt to make it look like she was still alive.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Apparently she was seen on August 27, at a restaurant in Jackson, WY.

Brian Laundrie had an "incident" at the Merry Piglets Tex-Mex restaurant there, where he was yelling at a waitress, and Gabby was "in tears". The restaurant verified that this occurred, but said there's no video of the incident, and they wouldn't give futher details.

Anyway, that's a confirmation of Gabby being seen alive on August 27, as well as confirmation that Brian was agitated that day. I'm guessing the murder occurred not too long after that. He was probably in a bad mood over something that happened at the restaurant, she was freaking out, a fight happened, and he killed her somehow.

August 27 was the same day that a really weird text came from Gabby's phone to her mom, calling her grandfather "Stan", even though she never called him by his first name. That was probably sent by Brian shortly after the murder, in a desperate attempt to make it look like she was still alive.

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Isn't there still a chance he killed the rug munchers? Maybe she was freaking out about that and he eventually came to the conclusion that there's no way she'd be able to keep her mouth shout about it so he killed her too.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Apparently she was seen on August 27, at a restaurant in Jackson, WY.

Brian Laundrie had an "incident" at the Merry Piglets Tex-Mex restaurant there, where he was yelling at a waitress, and Gabby was "in tears". The restaurant verified that this occurred, but said there's no video of the incident, and they wouldn't give futher details.

Anyway, that's a confirmation of Gabby being seen alive on August 27, as well as confirmation that Brian was agitated that day. I'm guessing the murder occurred not too long after that. He was probably in a bad mood over something that happened at the restaurant, she was freaking out, a fight happened, and he killed her somehow.

August 27 was the same day that a really weird text came from Gabby's phone to her mom, calling her grandfather "Stan", even though she never called him by his first name. That was probably sent by Brian shortly after the murder, in a desperate attempt to make it look like she was still alive.

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Isn't there still a chance he killed the rug munchers? Maybe she was freaking out about that and he eventually came to the conclusion that there's no way she'd be able to keep her mouth shout about it so he killed her too.

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I'd say a very outside chance, but probably not. From the start, Moab police seemed to be pretty convinced there was no ongoing danger to the public, and that the killer had "left the area". Given the older lesbian's methy look, and the fact that the two women were homeless and living at that campsite, I'm guessing that it was personally aimed at them, and not a random killing, given the police not acting alarmed on behalf of other campers there going forward. If a "creepy guy" was killing random campers, I think that would be huge news in Moab, and there would be a massive effort underway to solve it. It kinda looks to me like the police think it's a drug-related killing, so they're less worried about nabbing the perpetrator right away.

The lesbians seemed to be complaining about a guy they were afraid of at the campsite who had been around awhile, not someone like Laundrie who showed up with his girlfriend right around that time.

I think it's a coincidence. This looks to me more like a rage killing, where Laundrie was on his last nerve after 2 months of traveling together in that tiny van, and he just flipped out on her on August 27th. He's probably not a serial or spree killer.