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Originally Posted by nightmarefish
This is an untrue statement. Most low handicap golfers, especially those over 40 years old, would be hard pressed to explain swing mechanics.
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Originally Posted by nightmarefish
This is an untrue statement. Most low handicap golfers, especially those over 40 years old, would be hard pressed to explain swing mechanics.
I wasn't saying Bubba Watson was only a scratch golfer, I was pointing out that he is very talented which allowed him to get very good without knowing much about the golf swing. If you're a scratch golfer you are better than me but my ball striking is at least on par with a scratch golfer, my short game is the struggle.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohBubba Watson isn't a scratch golfer. He's like a top ten guy in the world. Scratch isn't that hard to attain. How good are you out of curiousity? I'll send you a video of me on youtube and you tell me, based on my swing what you thing my handicap is.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
Ping G15 7.5 White board XXQuote:
Originally Posted by FPS_Russia
My cousin just picked up 1 of these, will add about 15 yards to your drive, it's also adjustable. He still has a unbelievable slice tho lol. I hit about 15 yards further than my Great Big Bertha.
My driving and iron play is pretty solid, I can hit some blasts off the tee. Putting absolutely sucks because I never practice putting.
Post your clubs, Great Big Bertha drivers "which is actually small by today's standards"., set King Cobra 2 irons/or generic clones which i actually prefer over the Cobras, Odyssey Putter
Callaway 2 Hybrid
Ping I15 3-PW X-100
Miura 54 and 58
Just bought Taylor Made Ghost Spider putter
I agree with this. I'm definately not a master of swing mechanics. I know my swing personally. All I ever said here was that I could stop the guys slice. I never claimed to be a top 100 teacher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey GuyQuote:
Originally Posted by nightmarefish
This is an untrue statement. Most low handicap golfers, especially those over 40 years old, would be hard pressed to explain swing mechanics.
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Originally Posted by nightmarefishI wasn't saying Bubba Watson was only a scratch golfer, I was pointing out that he is very talented which allowed him to get very good without knowing much about the golf swing. If you're a scratch golfer you are better than me but my ball striking is at least on par with a scrath golfer, my short game is the struggle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
My short game is weak. I started chipping with a reverse overlap...basically my putting grip. So far so good. Also bought that huge ugly putter Beau Hossler used during The Open. Haven't had it out on a course but good in my house.
My comment was not directed at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohI agree with this. I'm definately not a master of swing mechanics. I know my swing personally. All I ever said here was that I could stop the guys slice. I never claimed to be a top 100 teacher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
Most people slice because they roll the face open big time going back and never learn how to close it back before impact. They spray everything right to right, then start coming over the top, swinging left more and more to try and compensate for the slice spin. If you can teach them to get the face square to the path you'll knock that slice out quick. Once they're hitting it straight, if they have path issues you can address that next.
I understand that but I agreed with what you wrote, hence my response. Just because you hate me on here doesn't mean I can't agree with something you said dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey GuyMy comment was not directed at you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
FTR, my brother is close to scratch and he doesn't know shit about swing mechanics either, he just knows his swing. He's a product of my father, who was also close to scratch and self taught. I imagine there are a lot of good golfers out there who are very similar to this.
My father tried out for the PGA tour many years ago so I clearly have my talent from him. Even though our games are complete opposites.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
I don't hate anybody dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoohI understand that but I agreed with what you wrote, hence my response. Just because you hate me on here doesn't mean I can't agree with something you said dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
I heard during yesterdays telecast that Fluff was a long time member at Congressional and played there all the time. Isn't Congressional an elite private club? I know Fluff makes some decent coin but any ideas what it would cost to be a member at a place like that?
I'm thinking 100K+ initiation with 12-15k a year in dues.
RBZ Driver,burner 2.0 3 hybrid,rbz rescue iron rbz irons, taylor made putter. Got that all for 742 bucks, the advantage of your cousin being a head pro
So I sign up for a USGA handicap because I want to play a few tournaments this year. I put in my 10 scores and received my first handicap a few days ago. It's a +0.4. I know I know, this is just Pooh being an arrogant prick as usual.
Not exactly. Frankly I'm embarrassed with that handicap. I had one damn score out of the ten that was out of whack. I shot a 3 under par 69 with a course rating of 74.7 138 slope. The rest of my scores were between one and about 8 over par. It was one of those rounds when everything was great and the score could have been better. six birdies, four on par 5's when I was putting for eagles on three of them. One double and one bogey. It was a casual round with the girlfriend while drinking a few beers.
The other nine rounds were all under tournament conditions. Part of me didn't want to put in the 69 but I needed a handicap and I did shoot the score.
That tells you how fucked up this handicap system is. I'm a legit 2-4 handicap at this time. I'm embarrassed to tell people I'm a +0.4.
The sad thing is I play so infrequently that the 69 will be there for probably 1.5 years.
Your handicap isn't what you usually shoot or your average score. It's a barometer of your potential as a golfer. By inputting only 10 scores your hanicap is based on your 3 best scores, one of them being outstanding so your handicap will reflect this potential.
This is another thing most golfers, even good ones, don't know.
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Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
The handicap is in place to prevent major sandbagging. This is why they only use half your scores...and the lowest ones. Hell, they only used 3 of my 10. It's stupid. I only play gross but I still have to keep that +0.4 and be labelled a reverse bagger lol.
Solid bag Pooh. I just retooled 95 % of my bag.
Bridgestone j33r 8.5 Aldila proto X (cut to 44.5 so plays stiffer). This has remained in bag for about 4 years
R11s 3w and hybrid. Aldila RIP x
TM MC TP 3-pw kbs tour c taper x
Sonartec t35 58 lob
Scratch 53 gap
Putter of the week....have a rotation going....lol
Still have my r7 japan forged irons and Nike split protos that I am finally going to sell....should just kept playing the r7s...didn't need all new shit but why not.
Oh...and played Kiawah Ocean for first time today...will post pics later.
SoleForPresident
Pooh are u saying you're nearly scratch? Impressive if true. You must be out all season!
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Originally Posted by lewfather
I live in south Florida so the option is there to play all year. In reality I only play about 15-20 times a year. I got good during my teenage years when I lived in Conn. Once you groove your golf swing muscle memory takes over and you'll always be pretty good.
I played a two man tournament this past weekend with my brother. This is the second year we have played in this together and I have played about four times total in this event. Last year we made championship flight but finished lower middle of the pack. There are some pretty good local players probably 5 guys that are scratch golfers and about 20 who are 5 or better. My brother is a 5 and I am a 0.5.
This tournament format was best ball on Saturday (each player completes hole and better score is used), and scramble on Sunday (both players hit tee shot, choose the best shot then both hit from there etc, until the hole is finished). The scramble is a much easier format for those that don't know.
Shotgun start on Saturday, we began on the 10th hole, a straight forward par 5..one of the easier holes on the course. We had received a couple inches of rain the night before so the course was wet but they wanted to play the ball down. I hadn't picked up a club in a month and it showed in the range.
Anyways, I hit the drive down the middle, maybe 290 yrds no roll. I have about 215 left to the hole so I hit my 3-iron. I hook it left of the green but it shouldn't be too bad...however I didn't see the ball bounce. Drive up to the ball...except there's no ball. After a few minutes nothing. No ball. I said fuck it and my brother made par anyways.
I bailed him out on the 11th hole with a par when he was making bogey or worse. Then my game completely went to shit. I couldn't do anything right except drink beer and smoke my cigars. After our first nine holes we were 1 over par as a team with 2 bogeys and 1 bird. I shot like 42.
We then parred 1 and bogeyed 2. Two fucking over par best ball after 11 holes on this easy course. The next hole is the easiest hole on the course if you can keep your ball out of the airport on the left side. There is literally no rough left of the fairway, just a fence and the fucking runway. My brother always hits first...snap hook down the runway. I laugh because there is about 100 yards right to bail out and the guy snipes it left. I hit a bomb down the right side, 5 iron on green and 2 putt for birdie.
For some reason my swing felt different. Usually during a round of golf I figure something out and that was it. Anyways, I birdied 2 more holes coming in and we ended up shooting 1 under par 71. I finished 2 under that nine for a 76 total.
We get to the course Sunday morning and see that we made the championship flight, although we were in second to last place. Low score was 66, with a couple 67's as well. The teams that shot those scores were legit scratch golfers so they weren't going to give much back in the scramble.
As we were sitting in the cart I told my brother we needed to shoot in the 50's to even think about winning. It was a joke because to shoot 13 under in a 2 man scramble is damn hard. This course is about 6500 yds. About 5 years ago this former mini tour player and a younger guy now on the mini tour shredded the course with a 57 scramble, and 63 best ball. It was retarded.
Anyways, our first hole is the runway hole. My brother hits it right this time. I hit it down the middle and long. Some would say that my game is made for scrambles because I hit the drives stupid long. I used to compete in the REMAX Long Drive that happens in Mesquite although I was never quite long enough to get there. I can still fly the ball about 300 at sea level. We hit our second shot on the green and two putt for birdie.
Next hole 225 yard par 3. Hardest hole on course. My brother hits it short of green. I snipe 3 iron left. We take his, I chip it 2 feet. Par
Bomb down the middle, my brother hits wedge to 6 feet. I make the putt. 2 under.
Par 5, dogleg left. Brother 3 wood, 5 iron on, two putt. 3 under.
Par 4, 360 up hill. Drive 300, brother wedge to 5 feet. 4 under.
Par 3, 220. Brother 3 hybrid, 40 feet. He cans it. 5 under
At this point we are 5 under through 6 and I'm starting to think we may have something going here. Usually we shoot about 5 under in this format. This year most teams shot higher than this..and a lot of good ones shot around 70.
Par 4. Driver 330. Brother wedges 15 feet. I chunk mine. Miss putt. 5 under.
10th hole:Par 5 I hit my drive down the runway. My brother hits left rough, about 10 feet from the airport (OB) Brother snaps his into hazard so I hit 7 iron lay up. We both hit wedge to about 8 feet. I make putt. 6 under.
Par 4. Brother hits drive behind tree, I hit mine into the airport. Second shot, he hits tree and ball bounces straight down. Now I'm starting to feel some pressure. I've got 127 on the sky caddie but I need to keep the ball below the branch my brother hit. Punch PW to back fringe about 25 ft. I make putt. 7 under.
Par 4. Drive 320. I wedge to 6 feet. 8 under.
Par 3. Brother short of green. Me left. Take his ball. Best chip to 6 feet. I make. 8 under
Par 5. Drive 300. Brother 4 hybrid to 35 feet. I make. Eagle. 10 under.
Now I'm thinking what the fuck? We're 10 under thru 11 holes. The guys we are playing with are 8 under.
Par 4. Drive 320. Brother wedges to 8 feet. Both miss. 10 under.
Par 4. Drive 290. Brother wedges to 10 feet. Both miss. 10 under.
Par 4. This is the dreaded 17th hole. Blind tee shot over marsh with the hazard continuing past the fairway. It's about 360 but closer to 330 if you go towards the green. I tell my brother to hit his 3 hybrid to play it safe. Hits it perfectly....splash. Not enough club. Ooops...I'm drunk at this point. I'm not gonna lie, I was pretty nervous since we had a great round going here. I take out driver and hit a good one about 10 yards short. I chip up to 7 feet. Brother says he feeling it and wants to putt first (I usually go first on the greens). He cans it. 11 under.
Par 3. Both hit in right bunker, short sided pin. I blast out 6 feet. Make par. 11 under.
Two more holes. Guys we're playing with are now 10 under.
Par 4. Drive 360 (hit cart path) Brother hits flop shot 2 feet. I make. 12 under.
Last hole is dog leg right par 4. Tough hole and now its pouring out. Brother hits driver towards fairway bunker. Nobody see it. I hit bomb down left side. My brothers ball ends up in the palmetto tree, never came down. We have 124 into hole. Over the green is dead. My brother knows we are playing well but thinks we're about 10 under..I'm not telling him what we really are. I tell him stay short of the pin. Hits his wedge to 15 inches. I tell him on the green in pouring rain..go make that putt and we may win this thing. Taps in birdie.
13 under par 59. Guys we played with shot 61.
So we get to score board. Guys that shot 66, shot 65 for 131. Whooo hoooo, we shot 130. We win!!
We look to see what the guys that had 67 did. They ended with 61 for a 128.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!
So we ended up in second place and were happy about it.
Better luck next year.
Impressive 2 man scramble.
You ever play an ironman tournament where you play 9 holes alternate shot, 9 holes of 2 man best ball & 9 holes of 2 man scramble all in 1 day? They are a blast.
I played a 2 man shootout a couple months ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey Guy
Saturday: 18 alternate shot
18 scramble
Sunday: 18 best ball
That tournament was brutal. We were the first ones done after the morning round (shotgun start) and by the afternoon round I was shot. My back went out trying to crush a drive early the second round and I was worthless. You're right though, they are a lot of fun and I will play again next year.
I'm playing in a tournament in a couple weeks where it is 6 scramble, 6 best ball, 6 alt shot. Not the same but will be fun nonetheless.
18 of each is too much golf especially since these formats are so slow to play. I'd be dead, most likely from alcohol poisoning, the first day for sure. The 6-6-6 format is decent but wouldn't really qualify as an ironman but would definitely be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
I live for the 2 mans. We'd probably get along quite well on the course. I usually stop at 6 beers though. I'll usually have 2 bloody's on the way to the course though. 2 cigars for the round and I'm good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey Guy18 of each is too much golf especially since these formats are so slow to play. I'd be dead, most likely from alcohol poisoning, the first day for sure. The 6-6-6 format is decent but wouldn't really qualify as an ironman but would definitely be fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooh
The 36 hole in one day was a Florida State Golf Association tournament. I was surprised to see everyone was drinking. I thought it would be a lot more serious. My kind of guys.
I played a shootout with a guy once......when he lost he had to pay up
Played out at Wolf Creek today, which is in Mesquite. Cool little town. The course is absolutely amazing, and is also on Tiger Woods Golf, which actually helped cause one of the guys in my group played it on PS3 and remembered a lot of the caddy suggestions...lol. Shot an 84, was the lowest round in a group of 12 guys. Left a lot of strokes out there due to a few terrible 3 putts. Here are some pics...
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Giant freight copter across the street from the club. These things were taking off and landing a lot of times during the round. Really cool...
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Wow that looks fucking sick! Grats on the 84 having never played it definitely respectable, you said you left some putt strokes any reason?
The courses I've been playing lately are all over seeded on the greens, so they are really slow. They are so bad right now that when you come in with a high iron you actually see a splash of sand when the ball lands. It took me a while to adjust, I ended up leaving a lot of 15-20 footers 6 feet short, then missing by less than an inch. Really frustrating, especially when you are hitting the ball well and getting on in regulation. I should have had a 38 on the front easily, but ended with a 40.Quote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
Sounds like a golfers paradox, love the greens to be slow but sandy slow like you're saying would be a nightmare! Would rather play the fastest greens in my life over that I think
I'm jealousQuote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
LOL, I didnt realize that this was a real actual course. I think they also have it on www.wgt.com. That website is about the best online golf game out there. I have killed a lot of time at work on that site. You can actually make real money too or win golf apparel, clubs, etc. We could set up a PFA country club through the site if enough people were interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegs1369
Been in the market for a new hybrid 3 iron. I really like the Taylormade Burner, and was going to buy one, but then I tested out the Ping G15 and G20. To me they felt exactly the same, and I love how the face is set behind the shaft, which is something I really like about the Burner and the reason I wanted to switch from my Adams. The Ping is set up with a larger club face though, and is more like an iron as opposed to a fairway wood. I settled on the G15. If anyone is in the market for a nice 3 iron hybrid and doesn't want to spend much, I have a nice Adams Tight Lie for sale.
When you say overseeded do you mean punched and sanded? At the course I played most often they would punch(aerate) and sand the greens in late summer. The sand was significant and if I wasn't a member I'd be pissed if I wasn't forewarned of the conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369The courses I've been playing lately are all over seeded on the greens, so they are really slow. They are so bad right now that when you come in with a high iron you actually see a splash of sand when the ball lands. It took me a while to adjust, I ended up leaving a lot of 15-20 footers 6 feet short, then missing by less than an inch. Really frustrating, especially when you are hitting the ball well and getting on in regulation. I should have had a 38 on the front easily, but ended with a 40.Quote:
Originally Posted by lewfather
That being said the first course I ever played was sand greens where you dragged a mat between the hole and your ball before putting
Yes, exactly. Punched and sanded.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitlesWhen you say overseeded do you mean punched and sanded? At the course I played most often they would punch(aerate) and sand the greens in late summer. The sand was significant and if I wasn't a member I'd be pissed if I wasn't forewarned of the conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by vegas1369
That being said the first course I ever played was sand greens where you dragged a mat between the hole and your ball before putting
Did you get a reduced price?
I always get a discounted rate with casino employee card, but in the summer here the prices drop in a big way at most, if not all the courses within 100 miles of Vegas. Course you saw in the pics was $65 for me, and that's expensive compared to most. Usually I never pay more than $30 this time of year.Quote:
Originally Posted by limitles
Vegas is correct - for Phoenix/Scottsdale as well. This time of year, if you can handle 110 degrees, you can golf on some of the finest courses around for dirt cheap. It's one of the reasons people move to Arizona to be honest.
I'm not going to lie, I usually don't hit up youtube for golf tips but this video is just god. I was having issues with my swing thoughts approaching the green and I stumbled upon this gem. It definitely sparked some interesting thoughts I never had on the course, just wondered what a few of you guys thought about it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osD2U-s8i6E
Well my golf is all but done for the year (unless Gamblebot wants to play a match). My handicap varied between +0.4 and 0.5, finishing at +0.2. I consider myself closer to a 2-4 though.
Highlights this year were the 13 under 59 my brother and I shot in a scramble and my final weekend shooting 71-71 with the last one bogey free. Was 8-12 feet all day and made one birdie.
The low point was fighting a massive snap hook most of the summer. Think I finally figured it out.
Can't wait until next year.