Printable View
As Bauer informed us, the Dodgers were master chemists with the sticky icky and Glasnow loved his goop. In one sense Dodgers were once a match. The Bauer video was a classic period piece.Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Ohtani 95mph fastball and really good off speed. I just don’t see him repeating his youthful Angels heroics. Friedman holds his breath on his $700m gamble
Freeman now has a quad issue. Aging sucks.
I misremembered. 3+ +205Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarI’m on this tall 2 pitch flame thrower F5 +114 for the pure entertainment. I’m gonna ladder his walks 2+ -130 & 3+ +230 'cause you know. He may get yanked early so 3 is enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by gut
Edit.
Damn I got too much going on. Memory is slipping
I actually caught 3+ +240 a few hours ago. Then I added 3+ +205. It’s off the board now
This kid is gonna be so amped he might kill someone. I didn’t see a prop for that
I tailed all those for shits n giggles, and took a k prop as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarI misremembered. 3+ +205Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
Edit.
Damn I got too much going on. Memory is slipping
I actually caught 3+ +240 a few hours ago. Then I added 3+ +205. It’s off the board now
This kid is gonna be so amped he might kill someone. I didn’t see a prop for that
From the other thread, I got tricked into an o4.5 5 innings Yankees bet because both pitchers have struggled.
Except... I didn't see that Judge wasn't playing. He's played every game up until now, so I took it for granted.
In MLB I am basically aware of the injuries, and one player sitting and resting isn't a big deal like it can be in NBA or NFL, so I didn't bother looking at the lineups, and it cost me. Had I seen Judge was resting, I wouldn't have placed it.
:gay2
Need 1 more k for 6...kid pitching a no hitter ..
God I hate these quants.
Hit everything besides the k's tho
Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarI’m on this tall 2 pitch flame thrower F5 +114 for the pure entertainment. I’m gonna ladder his walks 2+ -130 & 3+ +230 'cause you know. He may get yanked early so 3 is enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by gut
I bet Skenes first 5 ML assuming they have to eventually score for him. Nope. Void bet. You can’t make this shit up. They won at least but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was cheering against them at this point.
Dodgers Yamamoto walks 3 men then gives up a grand slam to bring them all across home plate.
Maybe he’s hurt too.
Dave Roberts gonna ask Yoshi to take one for the team like Sauer.
This is going to sound weird, but I almost hope Yoshi gets hurt and sits for awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
I don't think he has the durability to go an entire season and still be sharp in the postseason. He was able to bear down and pitch (mostly) well in the 2024 postseason because he had his time to "rest" during his injury. He and Flaherty were basically the starting rotation. It's a miracle they won the World Series like this.
So the Dodgers ran out and got Snell and Sasaki so this won't happen again, and... well, it happened again. And Glasnow is of course injured. And Gonsolin now too, not that it really matters at this point.
The rotation now is Yamamoto/May/Kershaw. Seriously. They're kinda-sorta making Ben Casparius a starter.
On the bright side, maybe Kershaw will get one more chance to shake the Cardinals monkey off his back in the postseason.
Playoffs? You talkin Kershaw playoffs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Let’s see if Kershaw wilts today under the mid season pressure of losing first place in the NL West for the Doyers.
Dodgers asking Yoshi to pitch every 6 days is a lot to ask of anyone’s ace. Yoshi definitely needs time off.
Molly Knight needs to do the definitive book on Dodgers pitching. Wait til the Ohtani results are clear, I guess. If that fails she will be #1 NY Times
Red Sox getting off that Devers extension while still getting a few pieces in return has to be a win for them.
Who are the pieces? They got a couple boring prospects and 2 pitchers who aren't having good seasons. What part of this trade helps them win now?Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
Three words: Service time manipulation (by the Pirates, that is)Quote:
Originally Posted by gut
A few facts and notes for this morning:
Ohtani is pitching tonight. Mark my words, the Ohtani pitching thing is going to be viewed as a mistake. Dodgers need to learn the phrase, "If it works, don't fix it." He has a 1.023 OPS, and 26 HR in 69 games. Last year he hit 54 HR while stealing 59 and had an OPS of 1.036. Dodgers are making a fortune off merchandising and the new fans from Japan. $70 mil per year (deferred) never looked like such a bargain. Imagine if you fuck this up because you're trying to get innings out of his arm.
Ohtani missed a lot of games in 2018 and 2019 due to pitching injuries. He missed the end of the 2023 season, again, due to a pitching injury -- one that almost cost him the MVP.
He's in the 2nd year of a 10-year deal. Do you really want to potentially bring on a catastrophic injury which could ruin his ability to pound the ball like he currently has? He's almost 31 years old, and may not recover as quickly next time.
I understand they signed him to both pitch and hit. It's a neat gimmick, but let's skip it. Maybe let him do it in an emergency in the postseason. Not now. Not regularly.
He will be limited to about 55 pitches today.
Many don't realize how bad the Giants' hitting has been, because their pitching has covered for it.
But it isn't good. Of the teams over .500 in the NL, only the Brewers (whose offensive issues are well known) and the injury-laden Padres have comparable run totals. The Dodgers, for example, have scored 399 runs to the Giants' 309.
But it's not just runs scored. The Giants just don't have offensive stars. The fact that released Dom Smith not only got picked up by the Giants, but batted cleanup today, is all you need to know. The OPS of the bottom half of the lineup is beyond sad, and the top half isn't exactly crushing it.
Ironically, Matt Chapman, currently injured but projected back within 2 weeks or so, plays third base, and plays it well. So guess who probably won't be playing 3B, after all of his bitching about the same situation in Boston?
Devers should help the offense somewhat, but the Giants are still going to have problems scoring runs. It's not like the Padres who have a lot of stars but just haven't put it together yet.
Giants didn't give up much, though.
Kyle Harrison had potential, but couldn't really put it together at the MLB level.
Jordan Hicks' potential came and went ages ago. He reinvented himself as a starter, which worked for a bit last year, before collapsing this year. I don't think he's worth much at this point.
Minor leaguers James Tibbs and Jose Bello are nobodies, and not likely to make much of an impact.
Red Sox are basically praying that Harrison, at age 23, still has a lot of room to improve. Keep in mind that Harrison was only a third round pick, and while the Giants were excited about him for a bit, he just hasn't put anything together resembling consistency or dominance.
This looks like a combo of a salary dump and just wanting to eject a problem player, even though they weren't getting much in return.
----
Something nobody is talking about, though, is the Wilmer Flores situation. Flores has hit well this year. He's among the league leaders with his 51 RBI, and has 11 HR. This is arguably his career year, though in 2023 he also hit well.
With Devers going to DH, that will probably force a platoon between Flores and Dom Smith at 1B, which is stupid, because Smith has started off well with the Giants, and Flores has been the one of the team's reliable producers. At the moment, with Chapman injured, all 3 can play, but the Giants may not even want to do that, because that would require putting Devers at 3B and then taking it away from him in 2-3 weeks.
The gain of Devers means less if they have to subtract playing time from Flores.
After having had some time to consider the Devers trade I'm reminded why I hadn't watched baseball for years. Its not the runner on 2nd in extras or the no plowing into the catcher rule after all. Its the Red Sox ownership that's ruined baseball.
They drag you back in with a few exciting prospects and a few decent games and then they do something like trade their best hitter and get nothing in return to help them win this year. I remember how insulting to the fans it was to trade Betts for what literally turned out to be nothing, but had forgotten about how Tito Francona and Theo Epstein had been treated until San brought it up a few days ago.
These are the same people who let Pedro walk after the '04 season too. And to think they pulled this shit right after they swept New York and had been on a roll. I have to choose a new baseball team to watch and root for. This is too much. F U John Henry!
A few facts and notes this morningQuote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Let’s not harbor and misunderstandings about this timing. The decision was not made by Friedman and/or Mark Prior. This was exclusively Ohtani’s decision and Dodgers management acquiesced.
That should be enough for you but if you persist recall the unique hold Ohtani has over Friedman’s contract.
Ohtani was feeling antsy. Cameras have caught him pacing during games. He wants to pitch and so he shall. It is that simple
It explains the suddenness of today’s outing too. The Dodgers didn’t know.
Honestly, I would trust Ohtani’s instinct to play now more than any opinion Friedman and Prior would have regarding pitcher health. I mean honestly the less involvement they have the happier you should be.
@country
There is no way to spin it. Red Sawks done fucked up this Bregman Devers episode. What you left out was the likelihood Bregman leaves at the end of the year anyway.
Bregman is gonna print more money than the Fed. Stay tuned.
Devers @$250m is a Costco bargain for Giants in a world where Soto is $700m and Fatty Vlad is $500m
The NL West is actually fun and relevant and I can’t recall anything like this. Druff is living the life we always had in the East now
Quick addendum
Xander Bogaerts is a useless waste of skin for the Padres. There was once a time with the Sawks when with two strikes he was statistically the toughest out in the game. That’s a memory now
shutup todge this is gonna be awesome tonight
I’ll be watchingQuote:
Originally Posted by lol wow
Brandon Gomes pregame nonsense pretty much confirmed they have no plan and very little input in the Ohtani process. Gomes did say 3 innings at one point (but it’s up to Ohtani)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI’ll be watchingQuote:
Originally Posted by lol wow
Q: “will Ohtani have frequent appearances for short duration going forward?”
Gomes: throws hands up in air. “We don’t know”
Gomes just trying to look like an executive in front of the grown ups. Gomes can ask Ohtani thru his interpreter.
Real Dodgerheads are loving this show
F3 BTTS 1+ +135 & F5 BTTS 2+ +155
Oh oh oh…. nearly forgot. Driveline catching some negativity from Dodger org according to sources. Fall guy stuff.
boooooooo
Means nothing. It’s ok.Quote:
Originally Posted by lol wow
However, I was wondering if the dopey dodgers would let him languish out here for 40 high stress pitches. Ohtani needs a pitching coach
Cease has Dodgers number. boooo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanlmar
During the broadcast it was confirmed that Sanlmar's theory was correct. Ohtani just dropped on them, "Hey, get me ready to pitch today", and they responded, "Yessa master!"Quote:
Originally Posted by SanlmarBrandon Gomes pregame nonsense pretty much confirmed they have no plan and very little input in the Ohtani process. Gomes did say 3 innings at one point (but it’s up to Ohtani)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Q: “will Ohtani have frequent appearances for short duration going forward?”
Gomes: throws hands up in air. “We don’t know”
Gomes just trying to look like an executive in front of the grown ups. Gomes can ask Ohtani thru his interpreter.
Real Dodgerheads are loving this show
F3 BTTS 1+ +135 & F5 BTTS 2+ +155
Oh oh oh…. nearly forgot. Driveline catching some negativity from Dodger org according to sources. Fall guy stuff.
He went one whopping inning, gave up a run, was somewhat wild, and then Dylan Cease later did Dylan Cease stuff, and the Dodgers went up 6-2.
Dodgers also joining in with the schizophrenic closer situation, now popular in 2025. Some days it's Scott, some days it's Yates, some days it's Vesia, and some days it will probably be Kopech.
The Phillies are trying this now with Strahm/Romano/Kerkering. The Braves are about to do it with Lee/Iglesias. Cubs might even be doing it with Palencia/Pressley/Keller.
Being a good team and having no designated closer is so hot right now.
I am so down on the Tribe offense right now that I look at Robbie Ray and think can they score 2? Doubtful. Like I wouldn’t bet Tribe +1.5 if I knew the Giants were going to score exactly 3, that’s how bad most of our lineup is. They’ll probably score 9 now that I posted this, but they have been truly horrible most nights.
Right now it’s Giants -1.5 +140 and they suck badly at scoring also, but not as badly as we do right now.
Devers taking grounders at 1st for Giants.
Pretty much all ya need to say.
https://x.com/RobertStock6/status/19...359967/video/1
https://x.com/JomboyMedia/status/1935170638177603586
https://x.com/JomboyMedia/status/1935171654717407621
https://x.com/JomboyMedia/status/1935193798398923000
Dodgers still went on to win 8-6, but almost blew a 7-3 lead. Bogaerts, who has become an automatic out, hit into two critical DPs.
If you want a guaranteed free cheese pizza use your DK MLB Boost on Yamamoto over 1.5 walks. It lacks imagination but it allows me to give overrated Yoshi a raspberry too.
Your limit & boost percentage may differ.
This Cal Raleigh is hitting everything right now. One of the better seasons ever by a catcher. Johnny Bench shit. Ignoring Piazza obviously as he was dripping PEDs out of every pore. That one is for you San.
I do wonder if Raleigh is on PEDs. He hit 2 HR in his rookie year of 139 AB. This year he has 29 in 271 AB. It's true that in 2022 he had a semi-heavy power year, bashing 27 in 370 AB, but he only hit .211. This year he's batting .273.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
He is 28 now, which is around when players tend to peak.
But let's say I won't be shocked if it's found he's on the roids.
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1936522344379646395
My favorite is the awkward silence for 30 seconds after the gaffe.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI do wonder if Raleigh is on PEDs. He hit 2 HR in his rookie year of 139 AB. This year he has 29 in 271 AB. It's true that in 2022 he had a semi-heavy power year, bashing 27 in 370 AB, but he only hit .211. This year he's batting .273.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
He is 28 now, which is around when players tend to peak.
But let's say I won't be shocked if it's found he's on the roids.
I wondered also. Hence the Piazza reference because I started thinking about the best power hitting catchers and it’s a short list and I knew San likes a little Dodgers hate with his baseball.
I don’t know enough about his power progression through minors and early years. Was he supposed to be this? I also don’t know if he’s the type of dude who is hyper competitive and would use them. I see a lot less of Mariners than most teams given the EST and I’m usually watching the Dodgers. But he’s scary as hell right now.
His max EV this year is his lowest since 2021 (it's basically been the same every year). He's always had good power, 29 minor league HRs in 2019 in 507 PAs, 55 raw power scouting report grade. Signed an extension preseason until 2030. Seems about as likely as any player to be taking PEDs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan DruffI do wonder if Raleigh is on PEDs. He hit 2 HR in his rookie year of 139 AB. This year he has 29 in 271 AB. It's true that in 2022 he had a semi-heavy power year, bashing 27 in 370 AB, but he only hit .211. This year he's batting .273.Quote:
Originally Posted by BCR
He is 28 now, which is around when players tend to peak.
But let's say I won't be shocked if it's found he's on the roids.
The Chase Burns era has begun.... and his debut was kinda ok.
He struck out 8 in 5 innings, including 3 in the 1st.
He did give up 3 runs in the 3rd inning, including a home run to Ben Rice.
The increasingly dysfunctional Yankees blew a great Rodon start (6 shutout innings) when the bullpen coughed up the lead, and then they lost in the 11th.
Yankees are just 1 ahead of the pesky Rays and 2.5 ahead of the upstart Blue Jays. It wouldn't surprise me to see this team finish 3rd. They're not likely to miss the postseason, as there isn't as much competition for the 3rd wildcard spot as there is in the NL. There are presently 5 non-1st-place teams in the NL with a .544 record or better.
MLB’s worst nightmare is a long run in the postseason by the Rays. With a max of around 11,000 fans at Steinbrenner Field, gates will suffer. Even with the poor attendance at the Trop, they did fill up in the postseason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
They have been selling out almost every game this season and did increase ticket prices dramatically so the season hasn’t been a financial loss moving to a minor league stadium. One could even argue being in Tampa instead of St Pete is helping.
However it’s still only June and it’s the Rays, they could still be sellers at the trade deadline. They certainly won’t be adding high salaried players. Though a reported sale to a new owner may change things in how they operate.
Still wouldn’t be a good look for MLB to see the World Series being played in a minor league stadium.
It won’t be a good look if the 4 highest payrolls are duking it out either. America loves the underdog and would lose their collective minds if there was a David vs Goliath story staged in a minor league park.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I would anyway.
Baseball is broken and it won’t happen but we can dream