Quote Originally Posted by country978 View Post
Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
Why are so many liberals trying to blame this on Trump?

There are two issues here:

1) Should we have withdrawn from Afghanistan? The general answer to that was YES.

2) HOW should we manage our withdrawal? Biden's answer was to just pick up and run off, which was the absolute worst way of doing things. THAT is what everyone is finding objectionable.

It is shocking to see these images of the Taliban with our expensive military equipment. Shameful. There were many ways to have prevented that, along with other issues we're seeing right now.

LOL @ the excuse making to avoid the conclusion that Biden is a senile fool who is terrible at foreign policy.
The answer to your question is that Trump is not to blame but is to be credited. So I think we are talking about semantics (blame vs credit). He is responsible for the draw down to 2,500 troops and the biggest push to get us out of there. Biden is merely finishing what he started. As for the equipment, this did not happen overnight and it was not taken from American fighting units, I presume. We're just seeing it now with all the other horrifying shit but this issue is not a new one. No excuses from me; Biden is old and unfit. But lets be careful what we all wish for because I think there would be consensus between parties that nobody wants to see Ms Harris as president anytime soon.
You are spot on as always. No shrieking and partisan politics from you.

Why doesn’t the US have a senior official in Kabul? In any other disaster (natural or otherwise) the Vice President is often sent. Kamal wants nothing to do with this. She is also generally considered ill equipped. She’s gonna campaign for Newsome instead. That’s leadership.

Bear in mind that the Pentagon and intelligence massively fucked this up… as they did the whole war. Biden is not a strategist. Show me he ignored advice. He will take the fall and it will be his defining moment, nevertheless. That’s how it should be.