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    The lowest total in MLB history was today.

    4.5 in the Brewers/Mets game, Burnes vs Degrom.

    Went over by 2.5 runs.

     
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    Remember I said to ride Kikuchi and the Mariners?

    3 ER over last 26 2/3 innings, spanning 4 games.

    Seattle (Kikuchi) +101 vs. Yankees (German)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Under 10.5 K DeGrom -120

    I was driving all day yesterday and absolutely shipped it in on this play. I was in the area and the radio kept saying the rain was going to be gone soon and it just stayed around. Fucking postponed and bet cancelled.

    Just for the steam I went to see how many Ks he had today at it was exactly 10. Son of a bitch.

     
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    So interesting situation yestereday with the Yankees game and Betanysports.

    Notice that I had German listed as the Yankees pitcher. He didn't start. He played, but didn't start.

    When Betanysports redesigned their website, they took away the Action/Listed dropdown. It's just gone. So I wondered what would happen in a case like this.

    Turns out it's a weird hybrid of action and listed, to where the line is frozen, but the bet still proceeds. In a typical action bet, the line changes when the pitcher changes, and you're stuck with it. For this reason, I always choose listed.

    So I should have had this bet cancelled, but instead it proceeded, and I lost. I'm going to call and talk to them about this in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So interesting situation yestereday with the Yankees game and Betanysports.

    Notice that I had German listed as the Yankees pitcher. He didn't start. He played, but didn't start.

    When Betanysports redesigned their website, they took away the Action/Listed dropdown. It's just gone. So I wondered what would happen in a case like this.

    Turns out it's a weird hybrid of action and listed, to where the line is frozen, but the bet still proceeds. In a typical action bet, the line changes when the pitcher changes, and you're stuck with it. For this reason, I always choose listed.

    So I should have had this bet cancelled, but instead it proceeded, and I lost. I'm going to call and talk to them about this in the morning.
    O/U on how long you're on the phone arguing with them, all calls combined, including hold time, until either you are satisfied or you give up: 59.5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    So interesting situation yestereday with the Yankees game and Betanysports.

    Notice that I had German listed as the Yankees pitcher. He didn't start. He played, but didn't start.

    When Betanysports redesigned their website, they took away the Action/Listed dropdown. It's just gone. So I wondered what would happen in a case like this.

    Turns out it's a weird hybrid of action and listed, to where the line is frozen, but the bet still proceeds. In a typical action bet, the line changes when the pitcher changes, and you're stuck with it. For this reason, I always choose listed.

    So I should have had this bet cancelled, but instead it proceeded, and I lost. I'm going to call and talk to them about this in the morning.
    So shady…. From what I could gather when I first signed up…. They regrade the bet to the current market odds. I swear that is my understanding.

    There is a lot to dislike but some opportunity. The software is putrid. (Which has nothing to do with your issue - just saying’)

    I will be curious how this works out.

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    Called Betanysports at 11:05pm last night about the matter.

    I was told that I missed the sportsbetting department by "5 minutes", and to call back at 5am Pacific.

    Called back just now.

    Got some dude who kept interrupting me and saying, "Those are the rules and they aren't changing", and not letting me get a sentence out. He kept saying that "those are the terms on the webpage", even though I found other webpages they never updated which say the opposite.

    Basically I told him that they can set whatever terms they want, but they need to clearly communicate anything non-standard to the bettors, and not bury it in terms. I told him that this weird forced hybird of action and listed is VERY non-standard, and that pretty much nobody betting on there likely realizes the rule.

    I said that my concern was getting back the money I lost yesterday, rather than forcing them to change their terms. I conceded that they can set whichever terms they want, provided the customer is aware of anything unusual compared to other books.

    I was told to call back for the manager after 8am.



    What a shitshow.

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    https://betanysports.eu/sb_rules.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Called Betanysports at 11:05pm last night about the matter.

    I was told that I missed the sportsbetting department by "5 minutes", and to call back at 5am Pacific.

    Called back just now.

    Got some dude who kept interrupting me and saying, "Those are the rules and they aren't changing", and not letting me get a sentence out. He kept saying that "those are the terms on the webpage", even though I found other webpages they never updated which say the opposite.

    Basically I told him that they can set whatever terms they want, but they need to clearly communicate anything non-standard to the bettors, and not bury it in terms. I told him that this weird forced hybird of action and listed is VERY non-standard, and that pretty much nobody betting on there likely realizes the rule.

    I said that my concern was getting back the money I lost yesterday, rather than forcing them to change their terms. I conceded that they can set whichever terms they want, provided the customer is aware of anything unusual compared to other books.

    I was told to call back for the manager after 8am.



    What a shitshow.
    OVER looking strong

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    Don’t waste your time, move on! You are lucky Tony’s not still around he ain’t playing around with you on the phone brother!

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    “All baseball wagers regardless of starters in 2021 will Have action….”

    That might be a problem for you.

    I’ll admit I’m not as “up” on the rules of baseball wagering as I should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    “All baseball wagers regardless of starters in 2021 will Have action….”

    That might be a problem for you.

    I’ll admit I’m not as “up” on the rules of baseball wagering as I should be.
    It might be. I'm just pissed that this wasn't made abundantly clear to people when they changed this shit in the middle of the season, after this bullshit new interace was released.

    There might actually be a way to angle this, if you're hearing rumors that a good pitcher may not start.

    For example, let's say Degrom is questionable, you might want to fire on the opposition, knowing that you get huge value if Degrom doesn't go. Normally you couldn't do this in a regular action/listed situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    “All baseball wagers regardless of starters in 2021 will Have action….”

    That might be a problem for you.

    I’ll admit I’m not as “up” on the rules of baseball wagering as I should be.
    It might be. I'm just pissed that this wasn't made abundantly clear to people when they changed this shit in the middle of the season, after this bullshit new interace was released.

    There might actually be a way to angle this, if you're hearing rumors that a good pitcher may not start.

    For example, let's say Degrom is questionable, you might want to fire on the opposition, knowing that you get huge value if Degrom doesn't go. Normally you couldn't do this in a regular action/listed situation.

    I don’t think so…. The odds would be updated to the new opening line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    It might be. I'm just pissed that this wasn't made abundantly clear to people when they changed this shit in the middle of the season, after this bullshit new interace was released.

    There might actually be a way to angle this, if you're hearing rumors that a good pitcher may not start.

    For example, let's say Degrom is questionable, you might want to fire on the opposition, knowing that you get huge value if Degrom doesn't go. Normally you couldn't do this in a regular action/listed situation.

    I don’t think so…. The odds would be updated to the new opening line.
    Under a normal action situation, yes.

    But not here. I know this because the starting pitcher changed on my Seattle/Yankees bet last night, and the line was the same!

    That's my issue here. It said "will have action" in the terms, not "will be classified as action".

    It looks like they're just going to stick to whatever line you bet it, much like they do in the NBA when you get bet in before a major change in player status.

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    Kang wasting a great ball striking round 24 putts through 13 2 birdies 1 bogey not gonna get it done

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    One MLB today, I think.

    Baltimore (Tate) vs. Toronto (Manoah) - Under 11 -115

    Manoah has looked excellent as of late. And Tate? Well, this is a bullpen game for the Orioles. But I like this under a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    One MLB today, I think.

    Baltimore (Tate) vs. Toronto (Manoah) - Under 11 -115

    Manoah has looked excellent as of late. And Tate? Well, this is a bullpen game for the Orioles. But I like this under a lot.
    The weather on the east coast is hurricane so just know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    One MLB today, I think.

    Baltimore (Tate) vs. Toronto (Manoah) - Under 11 -115

    Manoah has looked excellent as of late. And Tate? Well, this is a bullpen game for the Orioles. But I like this under a lot.
    The weather on the east coast is hurricane so just know that.
    Yeah forgot to mention that. May rain out.

    I'm sure betanysports will find a way to make me lose it if that happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    The weather on the east coast is hurricane so just know that.
    Yeah forgot to mention that. May rain out.

    I'm sure betanysports will find a way to make me lose it if that happens.
    Let’s punish them then

    Cincinnati Reds team total over 2˝ +135 for 1st 5 Innings Price Is Fixed

    Reds will hit Houser hard…. Full game is 4.5 with juice., This wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    Yeah forgot to mention that. May rain out.

    I'm sure betanysports will find a way to make me lose it if that happens.
    Let’s punish them then

    Cincinnati Reds team total over 2˝ +135 for 1st 5 Innings Price Is Fixed

    Reds will hit Houser hard…. Full game is 4.5 with juice., This wrong
    Doogie is hard to figure. 4 straight good starts (albeit 5 IP each), then two crap starts, then a good one last time.

    Hope for your sake he returns back to the form of 2 starts ago. GL

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