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    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
    Functional adults don't spend time on Facebook, or really message boards in general.
    So you're not a functional adult?

    Glad to see you finally coming to that admission. We're making progress.

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    In fairness, I am absolutely certain a Facebook conservative Republican page is a monstrosity too and representative of absolutely nothing.

    You have to be a particular sort to invest time and effort toward that venue.

    Left and right Facebook holds zero meaning. It’s curated entertainment. Brad Parscale was right.

    No one is interested in sampling these nitwits opinions via polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sloppy Joe
    Functional adults don't spend time on Facebook, or really message boards in general.
    So you're not a functional adult?

    Glad to see you finally coming to that admission. We're making progress.
    The time here is a complete waste, yes. The people that take this shitpile seriously make up those Facebook boards that you subscribe to.

    I dont spend any time shaping my opinions on Facebook - whether on my main one or through one of my burners for stealthily stalking high school interests.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    This 'Faecbook page' thing you push remains the dumbest fucking point of argument any of us have ever seen.

    Your pet whuddas are like quantum theory by comparison.
    Nobody accepts my offer, and they come back with excuses like, "Well, Facebook liberals don't represent mainstream liberals" (lol).

    Doubt i've ever said that. Fairly sure i've just said it's retarded. You know, because it's retarded.

    The team you cheer for lacks nuance with everything except fucking kids.

    For the half of your party it came from a lab, means it was an intentional leak of a biological weapon so the satanic global cabal could control the population.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rum dick View Post
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    Glad you posted this.

    I hate to break it to you, but you're pushing a right wing narrative here. Your side is married to the idea that it occurred in wet markets, because otherwise Trump doesn't look all that bad for calling it the "China Virus."

    Once Trump takes a position, the left forces themselves to oppose it, no matter how absurd their arguements have to be. In this case, the lab wasn't always obvious, but it's hilarious watching lefties still dismiss this idea as conspirtard ramblings.
    Wait what? I've never bought the wet market theory as gospel. Seemed plausible but the lab leak theory always seemed more likely.

    Most importantly, if we do prove it came from the lab, what are we gonna do about it? 600k+ dead Americans deserves a strong response and I'm not talking about giving China a talking to.
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    Stop being a pussy, dwaiii. If y'all are right about the source of covid, then China needs to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Wait what? I've never bought the wet market theory as gospel. Seemed plausible but the lab leak theory always seemed more likely.

    Most importantly, if we do prove it came from the lab, what are we gonna do about it? 600k+ dead Americans deserves a strong response and I'm not talking about giving China a talking to.
    I'll give you the same challenge I give everyone here on the left who makes a claim which defies what most of their party thinks.

    If picked an active, mainstream Facebook left-leaning group of 1000+ members, and posted a poll if there's a reasonable possibility that COVID came from a Wuhan lab, what % would vote yes?

    You realize that your party is so committed to the "it definitely wasn't a lab" narrative that a very high percentage of your voters believe that's just a crazy right wing conspiracy theory. Congrats for breaking from that mold, I guess, but I don't think you should be very happy about your leaders lying to you for the sake of supposedly "preventing xenophobia".
    Facebook is still a thing?

    I'm betting more Liberals think covid originated from a lab than the number of Republicans who think our free and fair election was run freely and fairly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    thats not at all what i said. my words were clear and chosen with honest intent.

    this is a bad faith attempt to regain face because once again you went to bat for a bunch of emotionally and intellectually crippled retards and it went badly.

    but ill give you points for doing it well if its going to help you get over this and move on.
    I have no idea what you're talking about.

    The whole way, the right was doubting the "wet market" story, and rightfully so. While we didn't have proof that it was from a lab, common sense pointed to that being at least a serious possibility.

    Your side wouldn't give this any credibility, supposedly to "prevent xenophobia". This was a bizarre time to suddenly become so concerned about anti-Asian hate crimes, since we've been dealing with the problem for more than 30 years, and in fact we saw plenty of evidence of the real problem during the 1992 LA riots.

    However, your side had to make it look like Trump was the horrible orange racist stoking anti-Asian violence, so they had to do all they could to make China look as innocent as possible. I'll be glad to post that Facebook poll I talked about above, if you doubt me.

    Most of the sheep in your party honestly believe the "lab" theory is Alex Jones level crazy.
    Druff this isn't true. Literally none of it.

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    If only there was a source that gave a fuck about polling and party affiliation.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/2021/03/...irus-pandemic/

    Team retard does science...

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    ...that and other stuff about things that right was totally correct.

    For plandemic shit...

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...9-was-planned/

    ...10 months ago when cult just wasn't quite as strong...

    "About a third (34%) of Republicans and independents who lean to the GOP say the theory that powerful people intentionally planned the COVID-19 outbreak is probably or definitely true"

    ...you can likely find more recent and accurate polls (about the source of virus), but i don't really care that much.

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    Ok i lied. Here's the polling from a year ago...

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    https://www.journalism.org/2020/03/1...l-covering-it/

    ...notice how neither the poll, nor team retard official party line, never mention an accidental leak. Sort of thing that happens all the time. I think your latest closed CDC facility was from 2019 in Maryland. They fucked up too often.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/h...biohazard.html

    "Problems with disposal of dangerous materials led the government to suspend research at the military’s leading biodefense center."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rum dick View Post
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    I'll give you the same challenge I give everyone here on the left who makes a claim which defies what most of their party thinks.

    If picked an active, mainstream Facebook left-leaning group of 1000+ members, and posted a poll if there's a reasonable possibility that COVID came from a Wuhan lab, what % would vote yes?

    You realize that your party is so committed to the "it definitely wasn't a lab" narrative that a very high percentage of your voters believe that's just a crazy right wing conspiracy theory. Congrats for breaking from that mold, I guess, but I don't think you should be very happy about your leaders lying to you for the sake of supposedly "preventing xenophobia".
    Facebook is still a thing?

    I'm betting more Liberals think covid originated from a lab than the number of Republicans who think our free and fair election was run freely and fairly.
    Okay, tell me something other than Facebook where we can do a poll of a large number of Democrats on a topic we choose, and I'll do it, since apparently you're too cool for Facebook at this point.

    Once we find such a place, we can also do a poll whether or not Stacey Abrams (who lost by 50,000 votes) was cheated out of being governor due to "racist voter suppression".

    We can do this all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gimmick View Post
    Ok i lied. Here's the polling from a year ago...

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    https://www.journalism.org/2020/03/1...l-covering-it/

    ...notice how neither the poll, nor team retard official party line, never mention an accidental leak. Sort of thing that happens all the time. I think your latest closed CDC facility was from 2019 in Maryland. They fucked up too often.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/h...biohazard.html

    "Problems with disposal of dangerous materials led the government to suspend research at the military’s leading biodefense center."
    Both of these polls show that Republicans saw the situation more accurately.

    Thanks for posting.

    The one you posted before that also indicated Republicans saw it more accurately, as the summer surge in verified cases (compared to a few months prior) was more due to vastly increased testing availability than an actual increases in cases.

    Here's another:





    SCIENCE!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    Most importantly, if we do prove it came from the lab, what are we gonna do about it? 600k+ dead Americans deserves a strong response and I'm not talking about giving China a talking to.

    absolutely nothing.



    i stand corrected.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rum dick View Post

    Facebook is still a thing?

    I'm betting more Liberals think covid originated from a lab than the number of Republicans who think our free and fair election was run freely and fairly.
    Okay, tell me something other than Facebook where we can do a poll of a large number of Democrats on a topic we choose, and I'll do it, since apparently you're too cool for Facebook at this point.

    Once we find such a place, we can also do a poll whether or not Stacey Abrams (who lost by 50,000 votes) was cheated out of being governor due to "racist voter suppression".

    We can do this all day.
    I'm betting there is somewhere like above that professionally polled this very issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    absolutely nothing.



    i stand corrected.



    https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzA...=0&xtrack=1#rd
    What's it say? Legit curious but my shitty kindle won't translate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Ok i lied. Here's the polling from a year ago...

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    https://www.journalism.org/2020/03/1...l-covering-it/

    ...notice how neither the poll, nor team retard official party line, never mention an accidental leak. Sort of thing that happens all the time. I think your latest closed CDC facility was from 2019 in Maryland. They fucked up too often.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/h...biohazard.html

    "Problems with disposal of dangerous materials led the government to suspend research at the military’s leading biodefense center."
    Both of these polls show that Republicans saw the situation more accurately.



    SCIENCE!!!
    No. It doesn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rum dick View Post
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    Both of these polls show that Republicans saw the situation more accurately.



    SCIENCE!!!
    No. It doesn't.
    It actually does.

    It shows that Republicans were more predicting a vaccine being completed in 2020 (it was -- and they were doing clinical trials in the middle of the year), while Democrats were beliving it was most likely "more than a year" away.

    It shows that Republicans were far more warm to the idea that it came from a lab in some way, and didn't just appear naturally. Democrats dismissed that much more in the above polls.

    The first poll gimmick posted showed that far more Republicans understood that the main increase in COVID numbers between March and July was due to vastly increased testing availability, and much less due to an increase in cases.

    So where were you guys right again? That the teacher's union will keep donating money to the party which shuts down schools the longest, regardless of scientific justification? I guess you got one there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    In fairness, I am absolutely certain a Facebook conservative Republican page is a monstrosity too and representative of absolutely nothing.

    You have to be a particular sort to invest time and effort toward that venue.

    Left and right Facebook holds zero meaning. It’s curated entertainment. Brad Parscale was right.

    No one is interested in sampling these nitwits opinions via polls.
    I'm not talking about curated environments. I'm talking about huge Facebook groups anyone can join, without any kind of fanatical or extreme focus.

    Sure, it's not a competely representative group of Democrats or Republicans, but if large enough, it provides a pretty good view of what people in each party are thinking.

    If put up a poll, "Do you think there's a reasonable chance COVID was created or extracted in a Wuhan lab, and got out?", and only 5% say yes in a giant Democratic Facebook group, you're not going to see vastly different responses from off-Facebook Democrats who follow politics.

    The reason they're refusing to do the Facebook polls is obvious. They know I'll be proven right about the insanity of their own party. So it's easier to just say, "Oh, those are just online losers on a loser site. Those aren't regular Democrats."

    Total cop-out.

    If I asked to take polls on right wing Facebook groups regarding things such as the Trump/Biden election results, they'd be falling all over themselves to do it, and to place bets with me on the matter. They just don't want to look in the mirror regarding their own side.

    Today's average Democratic voter has been so brainwashed by the media and social media, they don't know which way is up anymore. The same can obviously be said about a chunk of the right, but the difference is that the right doesn't arrogantly posture as the intellectual party of science.

    Is it any wonder that a lot of old school, well-respected liberals are now coming out and bashing their own party's craziness and cult-like behavior?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    No. It doesn't.
    It actually does.

    It shows that Republicans were more predicting a vaccine being completed in 2020 (it was -- and they were doing clinical trials in the middle of the year), while Democrats were beliving it was most likely "more than a year" away.

    It shows that Republicans were far more warm to the idea that it came from a lab in some way, and didn't just appear naturally. Democrats dismissed that much more in the above polls.

    The first poll gimmick posted showed that far more Republicans understood that the main increase in COVID numbers between March and July was due to vastly increased testing availability, and much less due to an increase in cases.

    So where were you guys right again? That the teacher's union will keep donating money to the party which shuts down schools the longest, regardless of scientific justification? I guess you got one there.
    The poll says more Republicans than Dems thought a vaccine would be available to the public by the Summer of 2020. It also says more Dems thought a vaccine would be available to the public by early 2021 (ie, reality).

    This isn't rocket science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
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    Ok i lied. Here's the polling from a year ago...

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    https://www.journalism.org/2020/03/1...l-covering-it/

    ...notice how neither the poll, nor team retard official party line, never mention an accidental leak. Sort of thing that happens all the time. I think your latest closed CDC facility was from 2019 in Maryland. They fucked up too often.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/h...biohazard.html

    "Problems with disposal of dangerous materials led the government to suspend research at the military’s leading biodefense center."
    Both of these polls show that Republicans saw the situation more accurately.

    Thanks for posting.

    The one you posted before that also indicated Republicans saw it more accurately, as the summer surge in verified cases (compared to a few months prior) was more due to vastly increased testing availability than an actual increases in cases.

    SCIENCE!!!
    Yea just no.

    "Developed intentionally" is just the usual plandemictard take. It was that retarded bioweapon spin you were peddling few months ago.

    "In the next few months" was the Trump spin. Remind me again was it in the next few months? Obv "in a year or more" was also incorrect to a lesser degree, but we can give right +10 points for that. They get -11 from the few months bit and the advanced match skills give me -1 as the total. For a "more right" you would have to get score of over 0.

    And then in July/August surge was because of more infections, not just tests. Team Retard scored -44. Have you thought about taking that super genius test that Trump aced?

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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/15/u...-decrease.html

    Ok this is going to be a lot harder. First you need to spot the surge in graph. It could be the slowly declining period that ended mid June or the steep rise that started after the decline.

    Then you need to know this bit, "The United States averaged about 172,000 tests per day in April, before ramping up to an average of 510,000 in June and nearly 750,000 in July.

    Now comes the really hard part. If you increase testing by 50% and your case numbers go up by more than 100%, is it more likely because of increase in testing or increase in infections?

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