**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

[RealTalk]

they're cooking the books or holding back trump votes in wi and mich.

Rigged like global?

[big dick]

druff, care to comment on trumps speach? would you call this a sane person and not dangerous at all?

How was the speech dangerous?

He listed off the states he thought he won, and claimed the other side was trying to screw him. He didn't tell people to take any action, nor is anyone taking any action.

People are surprised by this? It was 100% clear that Trump was going to attempt to contest any close result, which this obviously is.

LOL

Jesus


You think that was a normal speech from an American President?

[mulva]

stuff that is happening just doesn't happen coincidentally

[dwai]

How was the speech dangerous?

He listed off the states he thought he won, and claimed the other side was trying to screw him. He didn't tell people to take any action, nor is anyone taking any action.

People are surprised by this? It was 100% clear that Trump was going to attempt to contest any close result, which this obviously is.

LOL

Jesus


You think that was a normal speech from an American President?

[Salty_Aus]

If Biden wins this and it looks like he will.

If the courts then give it to Trump your country will burn.

[Dan Druff]

Lot of blue counties in Michigan with double-digit % outstanding waiting to be reported

Yes, but it's not that simple. Are these absentee? Not absentee? That makes a difference.

Here are the large counties which have major portions not counted:

Wayne 457k votes, 52% uncounted, Biden +19
Ingham 107k votes, 31% uncounted, Biden +22
Macomb 372k votes, 25% uncounted, Trump +13
Kent 282k votes, 23% uncounted, Trump +6
Oakland 666k votes, 15% uncounted, Biden +12

There's a number of smaller counties also with uncounted votes, most of which favor Trump.

Of those 5, if we do the straight math:

Biden gains 94k in Wayne
Biden gains 11k in Ingham
Trump gains 16k in Macomb
Trump gains 5k in Kent
Biden gains 14k in Oakland

That looks like a 98k gain for Biden. Not even close, right?

(Edited to fix math)

[Walter Sobchak]

druff, care to comment on trumps speach? would you call this a sane person and not dangerous at all?

How was the speech dangerous?

He listed off the states he thought he won, and claimed the other side was trying to screw him. He didn't tell people to take any action, nor is anyone taking any action.

People are surprised by this? It was 100% clear that Trump was going to attempt to contest any close result, which this obviously is.

BULLSHIT

Trump specifically insisted that counting CONTINUE in a state where he is behind (AZ) and that counting STOP in states where he was ahead (WI, MI, PA). He said he would go to the Supreme Court to ask them for this.

That is dictator behavior pure and simple.

[Walter Sobchak]

they're cooking the books or holding back trump votes in wi and mich.

Wrong.

MI and PA have been warning us for weeks that their results would take days, not hours.

Don't be a dipshit.

[Walter Sobchak]

stuff that is happening just doesn't happen coincidentally

You mean like counting votes? The horror!

[Walter Sobchak]

If Biden wins this and it looks like he will.

If the courts then give it to Trump your country will burn.

If the courts deliver an election that Biden won to Trump, then it should burn.

[RealTalk]

Lot of blue counties in Michigan with double-digit % outstanding waiting to be reported

Yes, but it's not that simple. Are these absentee? Not absentee? That makes a difference.

Here are the large counties which have major portions not counted:

Wayne 457k votes, 52% uncounted, Biden +19
Ingham 107k votes, 31% uncounted, Biden +22
Macomb 372k votes, 25% uncounted, Trump +13
Kent 282k votes, 23% uncounted, Trump +6
Oakland 666k votes, 15% uncounted, Biden +12

There's a number of smaller counties also with uncounted votes, most of which favor Trump.

Of those 5, if we do the straight math:

Biden gains 94k in Wayne
Biden gains 11k in Ingham
Trump gains 16k in Macomb
Trump gains 5k in Kent
Biden gains 14k in Oakland

That looks like a 98k gain for Biden. Not even close, right?

I would think most outstanding ballots at this point would be absentee. In these blue counties these vote by mail ballots have to lean severely Democratic, no?

[Dan Druff]

With that said, Biden has moved to -165 on Bovada, and Trump +125, making the true line Biden -145 on there.

[Daly]

Trump is not -250. That is a joke. I'm not sure what they're basing that on, but he might not win Georgia. The current Biden odds are the best based on information known so far.

I have no idea how you can look at Wisconsin and Michigan at the moment and not say Biden is the favorite. That’s completely setting aside Georgia and Pennsylvania.

Wow - lot changed in 4 hours

[Salty_Aus]

With that said, Biden has moved to -165 on Bovada, and Trump +125, making the true line Biden -145 on there.

Trump now +170 on Betfair.

[Walter Sobchak]

With that said, Biden has moved to -165 on Bovada, and Trump +125, making the true line Biden -145 on there.

I don't see why it would move that far in Biden's favor yet, but I bet the guys who laid -600 on Trump are sweating.

[Dan Druff]

Nevada is pretty safe for Biden because there's been 1.2m votes counted, and about 1m have been from Clark and Washoe county, which both went for Biden. So while there are a ton of other counties in Nevada, some of which Trump won by as much as 71 points (!!), almost all of the votes come from Clark and Washoe.

With Clark (800k votes) being Biden +8, and with 16% left to count, it's unlikely Trump will even hold his small deficit, let alone erase it.

[Walter Sobchak]

I have no idea how you can look at Wisconsin and Michigan at the moment and not say Biden is the favorite. That’s completely setting aside Georgia and Pennsylvania.

Wow - lot changed in 4 hours

So far you've been right. Biden is the favorite.

[Salty_Aus]

Wow - lot changed in 4 hours

So far you've been right. Biden is the favorite.

I'm calling it a Biden win.

Georgia turning blue too.

[Walter Sobchak]

So far you've been right. Biden is the favorite.

I'm calling it a Biden win.

Georgia turning blue too.

I suspect you're right but I'm not as confident as you yet.

[dwai]

So far you've been right. Biden is the favorite.

I'm calling it a Biden win.

Georgia turning blue too.

okay everyone pack it up, salty ass from Australia called it a win for Biden