**OFFICIAL Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph (Joe) R. Biden Thread - 2020 Presidential Election**

[duped_samaritan]

Fauci also said we shouldn't wear masks because they're useless, then about-faced on it, and admitted he was lying for the good of healthcare workers. Yikes indeed.

From the same March 8, 60 minutes interview where Fauci discouraged people from wearing masks:

"But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.

It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it,"



Am I totally missing something and Fauci actually did lie in another interview and later admit he was lying for the good of healthcare workers? Or are you spreading misinformation about a health expert during a pandemic because he criticized Trump.

[Texter]

There will be millions dead if Trump loses and we don’t have a vaccine too....get it.

Without a vaccine, We will ALL get Covid eventually....masks or no masks....dummy, no matter who is president.

So you think herd immunity is a thing?

Not sure on Covid...seems like people are getting it more than once....in which case...oof.

[big dick]

Fauci also said we shouldn't wear masks because they're useless, then about-faced on it, and admitted he was lying for the good of healthcare workers. Yikes indeed.

From the same March 8, 60 minutes interview where Fauci discouraged people from wearing masks:

"But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.

It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it,"

LOL

[Texter]

Herd Immunity would take years

2-6 million PER YEAR will die

Lol @ thinking we can reach herd immunity without vaccination


Educate yourself ont he subject next time before coming at me


you don't what you're talking about

Pretty sure we both agree on this point....you just seem to like arguing for some reason.

[big dick]

Herd Immunity would take years

2-6 million PER YEAR will die

Lol @ thinking we can reach herd immunity without vaccination


Educate yourself ont he subject next time before coming at me


you don't what you're talking about

Pretty sure we both agree on this point....you just seem to like arguing for some reason.

I like to debate people and talk shit


So you're good with 2-6 million AMericans per year dying? Just wanna make sure that's where you stand and then I will move on

[Texter]

Pretty sure we both agree on this point....you just seem to like arguing for some reason.

I like to debate people and talk shit


So you're good with 2-6 million AMericans per year dying? Just wanna make sure that's where you stand and then I will move on

Not good with it, but here is what I think.

We will all get it without a vaccine, and I am cool with staying home and wearing a mask etc until there are effective therapeutics and hopefully an effective vaccine. At least stall the inevitable as long as possible. I have been out to eat exactly once since June and that was outdoors.

I think too many Americans are being irresponsible these days since there aren’t effective treatments. I think Trumps leadership by example has been a shit show....but I don’t think Biden would have made much difference. I am not even sure a federal mask mandate would work and it may not even be constitutional.

Feel better, Clown shoes?

[big dick]

I like to debate people and talk shit


So you're good with 2-6 million AMericans per year dying? Just wanna make sure that's where you stand and then I will move on

Not good with it, but here is what I think.

We will all get it without a vaccine, and I am cool with staying home and wearing a mask etc until there are effective therapeutics and hopefully an effective vaccine. At least stall the inevitable as long as possible. I have been out to eat exactly once since June and that was outdoors.

I think too many Americans are being irresponsible these days since there aren’t effective treatments. I think Trumps leadership by example has been a shit show....but I don’t think Biden would have made much difference. I am not even sure a federal mask mandate would work and it may not even be constitutional.

Feel better, Clown shoes?

Yes I do

I was fearful that you were okay with millions of your countrymen dying that didn't need to die

Good to hear that you're not

Have a good night

[gimmick]

381,000 deaths between September and February (a 6-month period, provided they mean 9/1/20 through 2/28/21) is the best case scenario??

Laughable. I will take the under on all of these. Anyone want to bet?

It's 380k cumulative deaths. Or about 150k more. That's the underlying study. The article is whatever.

[gimmick]

Of course the study is a week old and apparently every article about it butchers it even more.

They used this model...

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...aths&tab=trend

...the best case scenario today for Feb 1st is 305k and the worst case is 622k.

The 380k referred in the study is the average of the current projection from a week ago. Now it's 399k.

[cleatus]

Yes we should all believe the compulsive lying anti-science guy who is trying to get himself re-elected at any cost


Who needs Doctors... stupid science people

meanwhile you're locked in your house and your state HAS been on fire for weeks


4 MORE YEARS OF THIS SOUNDS GREAT

You haven't answered my question or even given me that Stanford link you're talking about.

What did Trump do wrong in the early days which Biden or prominent Democrats were urging the opposite?

Also, how do you explain several Western European countries, including ones with liberal governments, doing as bad or worse than the US?

How do you explain that Norway has never been hard hit, despite a NY Times study showing that 4% of people were masking in late August?

LOL @ big dick pretending he knows the solution to COVID, but can't articulate any of it.

here is the Stanford Study link

https://siepr.stanford.edu/sites/def...ons/20-043.pdf

quick snips

[Dan Druff]

Interesting that they're studying "the effect of Trump rallies" when far more people have been attending mass protests.

Why aren't those effects being studied by these Stanford researchers?

I'll give you a few guesses, and then I'll give you a moment to question whether the study being quoted is biased or unbiased.

[cleatus]

everybody still supporting trump is angry, afraid or both.

get off my lawn

[Dan Druff]

Fauci also said we shouldn't wear masks because they're useless, then about-faced on it, and admitted he was lying for the good of healthcare workers. Yikes indeed.

From the same March 8, 60 minutes interview where Fauci discouraged people from wearing masks:

"But there is another risk to healthy people buying disposable masks as a precaution. The price of face masks is surging, and Prestige Ameritech, the nation's largest surgical mask manufacturer, is now struggling to keep up with the increased demand.

It could lead to a shortage of masks for the people who really need it,"



Am I totally missing something and Fauci actually did lie in another interview and later admit he was lying for the good of healthcare workers? Or are you spreading misinformation about a health expert during a pandemic because he criticized Trump.

He said this:

"There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences — people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face."


Seems pretty clear to me.

[Dan Druff]

Of course the study is a week old and apparently every article about it butchers it even more.

They used this model...

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...aths&tab=trend

...the best case scenario today for Feb 1st is 305k and the worst case is 622k.

The 380k referred in the study is the average of the current projection from a week ago. Now it's 399k.

First and foremost, there needs to be a sensible and uniform way to define COVID deaths.

In my county, a 37-year-old drug addict overdosed, was found to have COVID, and was listed as a COVID death.

In nursing homes, where COVID has killed a ton, there are a lot of ancient people in really terrible shape where even a fairly minor illness could kill them. Thus, even if COVID was the breaking point which put them in the ground, it's questionable whether that should be counted. Note that we had 80,000 flu deaths in the 2017-18 season in the US (about a third of reported COVID US deaths in 2020), but nobody panicked because it was generally understood that you weren't in much danger if you weren't very old, very young, or already in bad health.

I'm not comparing COVID to the flu, but we need to get real regarding accurately reporting death stats, and breaking it down into categories so people know their real risk of death.

[cleatus]

Interesting that they're studying "the effect of Trump rallies" when far more people have been attending mass protests.

Why aren't those effects being studied by these Stanford researchers?

I'll give you a few guesses, and then I'll give you a moment to question whether the study being quoted is biased or unbiased.

it has to be horribly biased. west coast liberal hacks working at a 5th tier school at best. pray for the San Andreas Fault to rip open and swallow all them Silicon Valley lefties.

[big dick]

Of course the study is a week old and apparently every article about it butchers it even more.

They used this model...

https://covid19.healthdata.org/unite...aths&tab=trend

...the best case scenario today for Feb 1st is 305k and the worst case is 622k.

The 380k referred in the study is the average of the current projection from a week ago. Now it's 399k.

First and foremost, there needs to be a sensible and uniform way to define COVID deaths.

In my county, a 37-year-old drug addict overdosed, was found to have COVID, and was listed as a COVID death.

In nursing homes, where COVID has killed a ton, there are a lot of ancient people in really terrible shape where even a fairly minor illness could kill them. Thus, even if COVID was the breaking point which put them in the ground, it's questionable whether that should be counted. Note that we had 80,000 flu deaths in the 2017-18 season in the US (about a third of reported COVID US deaths in 2020), but nobody panicked because it was generally understood that you weren't in much danger if you weren't very old, very young, or already in bad health.

I'm not comparing COVID to the flu, but we need to get real regarding accurately reporting death stats, and breaking it down into categories so people know their real risk of death.

LOL

WOW

You really are a walking version of a right wing parrot

[cleatus]

I'm not comparing COVID to the flu, but we need to get real regarding accurately reporting death stats, and breaking it down into categories so people know their real risk of death.

are you still voluntarily staying at home? no way i read even half of pfa.

[big dick]

How to Clip a Parrot's Wings

1 part Biden 2 parts Harris and 2 parts Obama

[big dick]

The White House unloaded on Fauci after he called out Trump for allowing a neuroradiologist with no training with infectious disease to shape coronavirus strategy

meanwhile...


Australia records zero local coronavirus cases for first time since June


DISGRACE. trump is the worst President in American history

and now he tries to cheat in our Election


and druff supports that!!

[mulva]

The White House unloaded on Fauci after he called out Trump for allowing a neuroradiologist with no training with infectious disease to shape coronavirus strategy

meanwhile...


Australia records zero local coronavirus cases for first time since June


DISGRACE. trump is the worst President in American history

and now he tries to cheat in our Election


and druff supports that!!

volume poster with no matter