There are three options in a pandemic...
1) Race through it
2) Delay and Vaccinate
3) Coordinate and Crush
The U.S. and most of the world choose option two.
There are three options in a pandemic...
1) Race through it
2) Delay and Vaccinate
3) Coordinate and Crush
The U.S. and most of the world choose option two.
Also a big problem with #2 is what happens if there's never a vaccine? Very possible scenario. Or if there is a vaccine and you have a huge percentage of a country's population unwilling to take it.Originally Posted by TheXFactor
I really don't know if the entire premise of herd immunity is true.The one mistake Sweden made was it failed to protect nursing homes early enough. They pulled a Cuomo early on and it cost them. Without that their numbers would have been better.
They have 7-10 as many deaths compared to Norway or Finland. Sweden benefited from everyone around them and everyone around them suffered from Sweden's decisions. You can imagine how this would have played out if China decided to go with herd immunity route.
They also lost a big chunk of lives in their migrant community and studies have shown the disease affects people with darker skin more adversely. The stats in the US back this up.
It will be interesting to see if other Nordic countries that locked down lack the herd immunity that Sweden may have achieved and if they’ll experience another wave of infections once the world fully opens and international travel resumes. I think it’s too early in the global course of the disease for any country to claim victories yet but I suspect when it all washes out Sweden will be close to par with other countries in terms of deaths.
Even so, comparing countries is not always apples to apples as many factors can affect case and death numbers.
These who have had COVID are not guaranteed immunity. But I am quite sure if you've had it once your immune system should not struggle to beat it off a second or third time.
And if it mutates considerably like the flu you might even lose this effect.
So the entire argument for herd immunity might be a huge assumption.
there will 100% be a vaccine of some sort, how effective it ends up being well thats another story
For the short term i think month ago the forecast was 5.5% hit to gdp and Finland was at 6.6%. Long term is something will see. Big factor is disability from covid and if Sweden has reached any kind of significant herd immunity.Only time will tell if the other countries get a big second surge and Swedan doesn't. Also, I haven't looked at it but is Sweden's economy doing better than the others? Will be interesting to see the studies in a couple years when all this plays out.
Say it's 50% effective and only 50% of the people take it. I'm not sure where that leaves us.
It was pretty common that at the early stages no one really knew how much you needed to protect the elderly. Likely everyone will do better if there's a second wave.The one mistake Sweden made was it failed to protect nursing homes early enough. They pulled a Cuomo early on and it cost them. Without that their numbers would have been better.
They have 7-10 as many deaths compared to Norway or Finland. Sweden benefited from everyone around them and everyone around them suffered from Sweden's decisions. You can imagine how this would have played out if China decided to go with herd immunity route.
They also lost a big chunk of lives in their migrant community and studies have shown the disease affects people with darker skin more adversely. The stats in the US back this up.
It will be interesting to see if other Nordic countries that locked down lack the herd immunity that Sweden may have achieved and if they’ll experience another wave of infections once the world fully opens and international travel resumes. I think it’s too early in the global course of the disease for any country to claim victories yet but I suspect when it all washes out Sweden will be close to par with other countries in terms of deaths.
Even so, comparing countries is not always apples to apples as many factors can affect case and death numbers.
Migrant population generally lives in more crowded circumstances. I don't know what their current refugee center situation is but they aren't really big on assimilating migrants. So migrants tend to live on their own lower income housing projects.
Sweden did have a bunch of regulations that they followed regarding social distancing. Dunno what their mask rules were.
Na, when it hit Italy everyone else in the world should have known to protect the elderly.It was pretty common that at the early stages no one really knew how much you needed to protect the elderly. Likely everyone will do better if there's a second wave.
Migrant population generally lives in more crowded circumstances. I don't know what their current refugee center situation is but they aren't really big on assimilating migrants. So migrants tend to live on their own lower income housing projects.
Sweden did have a bunch of regulations that they followed regarding social distancing. Dunno what their mask rules were.
They probably only end up giving it to the old and vulnerable tbh so even if it's only 50% effective would still do a lot of good for at risk groupsSay it's 50% effective and only 50% of the people take it. I'm not sure where that leaves us.
Sometime around mid-March might have been the earliest realistic time to do that. Still most countries were on their own BS. EU was going trough Brexit. Likely half the countries just assumed they were fine. Block a few flights and it's just another swine/bird flu.Na, when it hit Italy everyone else in the world should have known to protect the elderly.
We don't really function that well globally with anything mildly unprecedented.
https://twitter.com/twt/status/1295778677326860290
Persuasive stuff, Team Retard.
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let's just do what the left wants, stay in our homes, shut up and depend on the government
non ironic use of planedemic is legit retarded, its up there with flat earth and the 5g going to kill everyone when they turn it on
it's just a meme bro try to remain calm
I'd be amazed if you didn't believe at least one of those 3 things lol
Why should anyone be concerned about government overreach and basic civil rights these days? Why?
https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1295277876665671681
well then you're an idiot
no u
dammit
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