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    Also how isn't it an automatic for the visitors to walk the first batter if they didn't score in the top of the inning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    This extra innings rule sucks balls. Hate it.

    Starting a man at 2nd to begin each inning is a disaster. Totally perverts the game. I though they have expanded rosters exactly to accommodate the condensed schedule?

    It also is terrible for the visiting team, because if they brick the top end, the home team has a guy on 2nd which they can push home fairly easily without even needing a hit. The visitors can't do the same because they don't know how many runs they'll need.
    Isn't it sad that they are even playing?

    During world wars shit came to a halt. Everyone was pulling on the same rope

    Not now. Corporations need their income regardless. They don't care about the player per se. They care about the bottom line

    That is not in line with the collective effort needed to win a battle

     
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    Here's a good summary of the Joe Kelly thing:

    https://www.truebluela.com/platform/...a-alex-bregman

    Interestingly, Kelly wasn't even part of he 2017 Dodgers that got cheated, and in fact was an important piece on the 2018 Red Sox who also cheated the Dodgers, but somehow they've mostly avoided everyone's wrath.

    Still, at least I enjoyed him being a one-man wrecking crew against the worst Astros cheaters, especially that arrogant fucker Correa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    This extra innings rule sucks balls. Hate it.

    Starting a man at 2nd to begin each inning is a disaster. Totally perverts the game. I though they have expanded rosters exactly to accommodate the condensed schedule?

    It also is terrible for the visiting team, because if they brick the top end, the home team has a guy on 2nd which they can push home fairly easily without even needing a hit. The visitors can't do the same because they don't know how many runs they'll need.
    I agree with you about the rule. What I found from a betting standpoint is that when the top of the 10th starts the visiting team has increased win equity as opposed to a traditional extra inning game. The fact they have such a better probability of scoring and can do so by manufacturing the run really flips the script. I have been taking the away team when the game seems to be going to extras in the live betting. Of course, the books have shifted the live odds accordingly as well. You can still get decent odds by betting the away team in a tie game during the bottom of the ninth and take your chances it will go to extras.

    If they fail to score then it is another huge pendulum swing of win equity to the home team. Basically have to pray to somehow get another shot in the 11th at that point. It reminds me somewhat of when hockey put the shootout in place. The home teams quickly realized that it was better to go first and hopefully score to put the pressure on. I don’t know if home teams would decide to do that with this rule in baseball, but it is for sure a closer call than most would have expected.

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    If you hate the extra inning rules you are prolly not gonna love the 7 inning double headers

    It’s 2020, enjoy the little you have

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Clearly Shane Bieber is Cy Young lock.

    Might be premature to give the Tribe the pennant.

    14 scoreless innings and 27k’s. Shame this season probably ends in a few weeks.

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    This guys lip reading makes the video


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    This extra innings rule sucks balls. Hate it.

    Starting a man at 2nd to begin each inning is a disaster. Totally perverts the game. I though they have expanded rosters exactly to accommodate the condensed schedule?

    It also is terrible for the visiting team, because if they brick the top end, the home team has a guy on 2nd which they can push home fairly easily without even needing a hit. The visitors can't do the same because they don't know how many runs they'll need.
    I agree with you about the rule. What I found from a betting standpoint is that when the top of the 10th starts the visiting team has increased win equity as opposed to a traditional extra inning game. The fact they have such a better probability of scoring and can do so by manufacturing the run really flips the script. I have been taking the away team when the game seems to be going to extras in the live betting. Of course, the books have shifted the live odds accordingly as well. You can still get decent odds by betting the away team in a tie game during the bottom of the ninth and take your chances it will go to extras.

    If they fail to score then it is another huge pendulum swing of win equity to the home team. Basically have to pray to somehow get another shot in the 11th at that point. It reminds me somewhat of when hockey put the shootout in place. The home teams quickly realized that it was better to go first and hopefully score to put the pressure on. I don’t know if home teams would decide to do that with this rule in baseball, but it is for sure a closer call than most would have expected.
    Totals have not caught up to the new 10th inning rules.

    They will cease to even offer o/u live in 10th inning if they want to stay in business.

    Padres Giants 6-6

    10th inning 7 runs and it’s not over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JeffDime View Post

    I agree with you about the rule. What I found from a betting standpoint is that when the top of the 10th starts the visiting team has increased win equity as opposed to a traditional extra inning game. The fact they have such a better probability of scoring and can do so by manufacturing the run really flips the script. I have been taking the away team when the game seems to be going to extras in the live betting. Of course, the books have shifted the live odds accordingly as well. You can still get decent odds by betting the away team in a tie game during the bottom of the ninth and take your chances it will go to extras.

    If they fail to score then it is another huge pendulum swing of win equity to the home team. Basically have to pray to somehow get another shot in the 11th at that point. It reminds me somewhat of when hockey put the shootout in place. The home teams quickly realized that it was better to go first and hopefully score to put the pressure on. I don’t know if home teams would decide to do that with this rule in baseball, but it is for sure a closer call than most would have expected.
    Totals have not caught up to the new 10th inning rules.

    They will cease to even offer o/u live in 10th inning if they want to stay in business.

    Padres Giants 6-6

    10th inning 7 runs and it’s not over.
    This is a good point.

    Maybe some value in hammering overs on closely matched teams, hoping they go to extras.

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    Small sample but..

    Christian Yelich is 1-for-27 with 12 K and just 1 BB. His one hit is a HR, meaning he hasn't had a single base hit yet within the ballpark.

    Cody Bellinger is now 5-for-31 with 0 HR and just one extra base hit. On the bright side, he's only whiffed 4 times, so some of this is probably bad luck.

    Still, collectively they're hitting slightly over .100 with 1 HR and 1 double between them. Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Small sample but..

    Christian Yelich is 1-for-27 with 12 K and just 1 BB. His one hit is a HR, meaning he hasn't had a single base hit yet within the ballpark.

    Cody Bellinger is now 5-for-31 with 0 HR and just one extra base hit. On the bright side, he's only whiffed 4 times, so some of this is probably bad luck.

    Still, collectively they're hitting slightly over .100 with 1 HR and 1 double between them. Wow.

    A pitcher could throw during the lockdown ... Scherzer is the most famous example this summer. Where was a hitter like Bellinger going to see a live pitcher at max effort?

    So many of the monsters are underperforming.

    The balls used in the cages are quarantined for 5 days and all that too. Even hitting the cage during a game is near impossible.

    It certainly does get your attention but it’s just another example of COVID weirdness.

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    for the 1st time in my life i rooted for the dodgers


    2020 is a strange year indeed

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    brewers-cards postponted...

    enjoy this while it lasts boys...looking more and more like it aint gonna last for much longer...

    NFL needs to reevaluate their decision to not "bubble" ASAP...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    brewers-cards postponted...

    enjoy this while it lasts boys...looking more and more like it aint gonna last for much longer...

    NFL needs to reevaluate their decision to not "bubble" ASAP...
    You know a place with 32 practice fields?

    Your point is correct though. Zero shot

    I’m just regarding this MLB season as an exhibition. You know I am not adverse to betting exhibition or preseason.


    7 inning double-headers will be fun to handicap. Nobody has an edge. Just opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Small sample but..

    Christian Yelich is 1-for-27 with 12 K and just 1 BB. His one hit is a HR, meaning he hasn't had a single base hit yet within the ballpark.

    Cody Bellinger is now 5-for-31 with 0 HR and just one extra base hit. On the bright side, he's only whiffed 4 times, so some of this is probably bad luck.

    Still, collectively they're hitting slightly over .100 with 1 HR and 1 double between them. Wow.
    Yep and Acuna is 4-for-28 with 14Ks! That’s 3 of the top 5 in NL MVP last year.

    Also Kris Bryant is 2-22 with 10Ks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    brewers-cards postponted...

    enjoy this while it lasts boys...looking more and more like it aint gonna last for much longer...

    NFL needs to reevaluate their decision to not "bubble" ASAP...
    You know a place with 32 practice fields?

    Your point is correct though. Zero shot

    I’m just regarding this MLB season as an exhibition. You know I am not adverse to betting exhibition or preseason.


    7 inning double-headers will be fun to handicap. Nobody has an edge. Just opinion.
    The only possible viable location would be Phoenix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GambleBotsChafedPenis View Post
    brewers-cards postponted...

    enjoy this while it lasts boys...looking more and more like it aint gonna last for much longer...

    NFL needs to reevaluate their decision to not "bubble" ASAP...
    You know a place with 32 practice fields?

    Your point is correct though. Zero shot


    I’m just regarding this MLB season as an exhibition. You know I am not adverse to betting exhibition or preseason.


    7 inning double-headers will be fun to handicap. Nobody has an edge. Just opinion.
    i aint saying it's gonna be an easy solution san...but there are BILLLLLLLLLLIONS on the line...bout time goddell starts to earn his $40M...

    *can they do an NBA style one in orlando? that wide world of sports complex is massive...dont know if they have enough football specific space for games/practices/etc...
    *maybe a bubble by geography? all north, all south, all east, all west teams together regardless of conference...
    *do it in texas...i mean fuck a decent chunk of those high school stadiums are just as nice as a lot of big time college stadiums...

    issue is that MLB/NFL arent the NBA...a TON more moving parts, even in a bubble...i mean look at the NBA...have already had lou williams go to a strippy for their wings and test positive and that's when people are on lockdown...now add in 4-5x more people for an NFL operation compared to NBA...i mean even if they have their ducks in a row, it's gonna be fucking hard as hell to pull it off...all you need is a couple of knuckleheads looking for some strange and it can blow the whole thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayjami View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post

    You know a place with 32 practice fields?

    Your point is correct though. Zero shot

    I’m just regarding this MLB season as an exhibition. You know I am not adverse to betting exhibition or preseason.


    7 inning double-headers will be fun to handicap. Nobody has an edge. Just opinion.
    The only possible viable location would be Phoenix.
    yup...MLB floated that idea and the players were like 'fuck no'...wonder if it would have worked...maybe better than this, but id be willing to bet they'd have still had people get this shit...enough to potentially shutdown the season? probably not...but think the players were looking to fight with the owners and the owners were looking to fight with the players so even attempting the bubble was gonna be DOA...

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    North, south, east, west is a good idea. Any travel eliminated is a plus.

    It’s the league of denial though. I don’t see it.

    I have not committed any emotional energy to following NFL news. We have Cam Newton and Belichick and normally that’s a lot to unpack but I just don’t think it’s gonna happen. Not for very long.

    A very small part of me wonders if Belichick is tanking. Or has a couple of small vials all prepared .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanlmar View Post
    North, south, east, west is a good idea. Any travel eliminated is a plus.

    It’s the league of denial though. I don’t see it.

    I have not committed any emotional energy to following NFL news. We have Cam Newton and Belichick and normally that’s a lot to unpack but I just don’t think it’s gonna happen. Not for very long.

    A very small part of me wonders if Belichick is tanking. Or has a couple of small vials all prepared .....
    for the best QB prospect to come outta college since maybe peyton? things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmm...

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