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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
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    It’s Coronas death clock, wouldn’t matter who was in charge or if anything was done different, shit would still kill.

    this is factually incorrect, and it's source is essentially a far right meme being pushed to prevent the ruling regime from being held accountable.
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    Uh....no. It was gonna do its damage regardless. We are a pawn to its devastation. If this wasn’t election time prewar bs, this post would have never been made. Seriously Biden? Really? Instead of laying blame incorrectly, please find a better candidate to try to trump Trump. I would welcome it, it’s just not there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Uh....no. It was gonna do its damage regardless. We are a pawn to its devastation. If this wasn’t election time prewar bs, this post would have never been made. Seriously Biden? Really? Instead of laying blame incorrectly, please find a better candidate to try to trump Trump. I would welcome it, it’s just not there.
    Why are there so many cases and deaths in the U.S compared to other countries?

    Better testing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Uh....no. It was gonna do its damage regardless. We are a pawn to its devastation. If this wasn’t election time prewar bs, this post would have never been made. Seriously Biden? Really? Instead of laying blame incorrectly, please find a better candidate to try to trump Trump. I would welcome it, it’s just not there.

    i know that you actually believe this, which is why im not responding.

     
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      splitthis: It’s the truth baby, Dems be clouded lately.
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    Compare our fatness and inactivity to those nations, their borders, their lack of diversity, population, the list goes on and on.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Uh....no. It was gonna do its damage regardless. We are a pawn to its devastation. If this wasn’t election time prewar bs, this post would have never been made. Seriously Biden? Really? Instead of laying blame incorrectly, please find a better candidate to try to trump Trump. I would welcome it, it’s just not there.
    Why are there so many cases and deaths in the U.S compared to other countries?

    Better testing?
    I already explained this:

    The main reason it didn’t matter who was in charge is that the virus spread in the US far before the World reacted to it. The virus was in China in November and there’s 20,000 flights a week from China to the US. If it wasn’t in the US in November it certainly was in December so it spread unchecked for 6-8 weeks. This goes for Europe as well. At that point, there’s gonna be a lot of death, it’s inevitable.

    Hilarious the people in this thread that think their country did such a great job. Reality is when the world shut down the virus hadn’t spread as much in their country as it had in the US thus when measures were taken they were more effective other places. You know, exponential growth and shit.

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    So you think trump ignoring the virus and calling it a hoax and the flu up until around early-mid march didn't make things worse?

    If he had of taken it seriously in mid-end january do you think it would still be this bad?



    If what you say is true that the virus has been spreading in the U.S since as early as november and december then why did shit starting getting out of control in march and april vs january and february?


    I think dumfuck Donny didn't take any warnings serious and also dismanted the pandemic department and thats why we are fucked the way we are.

    We are fucked let there be no mistake about that. Few weeks from now shit is gonna get fucked up and imo way more fucked up than things were in april and are now

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    So you think trump ignoring the virus and calling it a hoax and the flu up until around early-mid march didn't make things worse?

    If he had of taken it seriously in mid-end january do you think it would still be this bad?



    If what you say is true that the virus has been spreading in the U.S since as early as november and december then why did shit starting getting out of control in march and april vs january and february?


    I think dumfuck Donny didn't take any warnings serious and also dismanted the pandemic department and thats why we are fucked the way we are.

    We are fucked let there be no mistake about that. Few weeks from now shit is gonna get fucked up and imo way more fucked up than things were in april and are now
    We were ahead of most of the countries in the world with taking measures and many countries with far better outcomes took our lead. However, by late January the US was already so infected that it was going to spread, the large number of asymptomatic cases is a huge factor. If you don't think the average flight rates from China to any given country was the driving force in deaths you're lying to yourself. 20,000 flights from China to the USA every week, really think about it.

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    yeah guys it didnt matter that the entire conservative media machine called it a hoax and that trump spent weeks telling people to take absolutely no precautions against it because it was a hoax, because he trusts sean hannity more than the aggregate wisdom of the entire american scientific community.

    and it certainly had nothing to do with the pandemic response plan being inherited from the obama adminsitration.

    you absolute fuckin imbeciles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
    Uh....no. It was gonna do its damage regardless. We are a pawn to its devastation. If this wasn’t election time prewar bs, this post would have never been made. Seriously Biden? Really? Instead of laying blame incorrectly, please find a better candidate to try to trump Trump. I would welcome it, it’s just not there.
    def matters but cmon split. Look at what's going on here. This is madness. It didn't need to be this fucking bad.


    Sure people were gonna die but the way this man has handled this is mind boggling


    Look at what he is doing and saying? Telling peiople to take drugs that at the time were unrpoven and now proven to be deadly.

    He was up there spouting off about the president has total power and other dictatorship type nonsense.
    He was telling people to main line drano


    The list goes on and on. I could sit here listing the shit that asshole has said and done for hours.


    He's a bad man who does not care about anything or anyone but himself.

    He can't even bring himself to act like he actually cares about americans dying. He is incapable of empathy
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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    yeah guys it didnt matter that the entire conservative media machine called it a hoax and that trump spent weeks telling people to take absolutely no precautions against it because it was a hoax, because he trusts sean hannity more than the aggregate wisdom of the entire american scientific community.

    and it certainly had nothing to do with the pandemic response plan being inherited from the obama adminsitration.

    you absolute fuckin imbeciles.
    Do I really need to pull up examples from every liberal media outlet to show they thought it wasn't a big deal either? You're kidding yourself.

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    People still saying he dismantled the pandemic response team shows that they are incapable of emotional intelligence and just want to choose and pick what they believe.

    Keep parroting the same incorrect talking points. Seems like the more people say it the more others become brainwashed by it so youre doing your job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    yeah guys it didnt matter that the entire conservative media machine called it a hoax and that trump spent weeks telling people to take absolutely no precautions against it because it was a hoax, because he trusts sean hannity more than the aggregate wisdom of the entire american scientific community.

    and it certainly had nothing to do with the pandemic response plan being inherited from the obama adminsitration.

    you absolute fuckin imbeciles.
    Do I really need to pull up examples from every liberal media outlet to show they thought it wasn't a big deal either? You're kidding yourself.

    if you actually believe that, what you need to do involves a luger and locked room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    So you think trump ignoring the virus and calling it a hoax and the flu up until around early-mid march didn't make things worse?

    If he had of taken it seriously in mid-end january do you think it would still be this bad?



    If what you say is true that the virus has been spreading in the U.S since as early as november and december then why did shit starting getting out of control in march and april vs january and february?


    I think dumfuck Donny didn't take any warnings serious and also dismanted the pandemic department and thats why we are fucked the way we are.

    We are fucked let there be no mistake about that. Few weeks from now shit is gonna get fucked up and imo way more fucked up than things were in april and are now
    We were ahead of most of the countries in the world with taking measures and many countries with far better outcomes took our lead. However, by late January the US was already so infected that it was going to spread, the large number of asymptomatic cases is a huge factor. If you don't think the average flight rates from China to any given country was the driving force in deaths you're lying to yourself. 20,000 flights from China to the USA every week, really think about it.
    So the U.S is the only place people from china travel to?

    Do you really think trump was well prepared? LOl the guy still isn't prepared dude. Whats the plan going forward ? What happens if this reopening is a total and utter disaster? Whats the plan? Just ride it out? What if the hospitals in these small towns are over run in a few weeks? Ride it out? let people die in hospital hallways?


    There is no plan going forward. The man who is responsible for 100's of millions of people is just kind of winging it


    Why is south korea doing so well vs the U.S?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nightmarefish View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    yeah guys it didnt matter that the entire conservative media machine called it a hoax and that trump spent weeks telling people to take absolutely no precautions against it because it was a hoax, because he trusts sean hannity more than the aggregate wisdom of the entire american scientific community.

    and it certainly had nothing to do with the pandemic response plan being inherited from the obama adminsitration.

    you absolute fuckin imbeciles.
    Do I really need to pull up examples from every liberal media outlet to show they thought it wasn't a big deal either? You're kidding yourself.
    Bill De Blassio was encouraging everyone to go to the movies in late February.

    This "blame Trump" for everything is going to backfire very badly for the Dems, especially when their candidate is holed up in his basement. I mean, did you see Nancy Pelosi last night defending Biden on these assault issues? She looked absolutely awful, and I am not talking about what she was saying. She looked like a creature from some scientific movie, much like Joe. Trump is 73 and no spring chicken but has a lot of energy and looks like he is in his 60s. These two look like death warmed over, they simply cannot let go of power.

    You have the walking dead and the AOC contingent who are absolute lunatics on each edge of the spectrum. One thing is for certain, the Bill Clinton lunch pail carrying Democrat is gone forever. They are with Trump now plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
    yeah guys it didnt matter that the entire conservative media machine called it a hoax and that trump spent weeks telling people to take absolutely no precautions against it because it was a hoax, because he trusts sean hannity more than the aggregate wisdom of the entire american scientific community.

    and it certainly had nothing to do with the pandemic response plan being inherited from the obama adminsitration.

    you absolute fuckin imbeciles.

    Are we going to have to repost the left reaction to shutting down travel to/fro China.....? Keep it fair and balanced and all of that?

    The whole things a shit show and anything other than shutting down the whole world around Christmas wasn’t going to stop this.

    Not saying it couldn’t have been handled better by 45 - probably going to cost him a second term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
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    We were ahead of most of the countries in the world with taking measures and many countries with far better outcomes took our lead. However, by late January the US was already so infected that it was going to spread, the large number of asymptomatic cases is a huge factor. If you don't think the average flight rates from China to any given country was the driving force in deaths you're lying to yourself. 20,000 flights from China to the USA every week, really think about it.
    So the U.S is the only place people from china travel to?

    Do you really think trump was well prepared? LOl the guy still isn't prepared dude. Whats the plan going forward ? What happens if this reopening is a total and utter disaster? Whats the plan? Just ride it out? Waht if the hospitals int hese small towns are over run in a few weeks? Ride it out? let people die in hospital hallways?


    There is no plan going forward. The man who is responsible for 100's of millions of people is just kind of winging it


    Why is south korea doing so well vs the U.S?
    Not the only place but yes at that volume. You don't think that 500,000 to 1,000,000 people a week flying into the US from China is a factor in the spread? What the hell are you talking about? Remember this was going on late last year unchecked for 2 months. Compare the US to say, New Zealand which doesn't have nearly that volume coming in so the spread was much better controlled when the country shut down. US also has 80,000 flights a day within the US which helps the spread, name some other countries that compare to that which didn't have a bad outbreak.

    And why are you talking to me about Trump? He's a fuckin retard obviously but that doesn't mean a different president would have been more on top of it. Even Fauci at the beginning didn't think it was something to worry about, he would have been the same guy advising any president. You can say testing all you want but how is it the president's fault that the initial test kits were contaminated by the CDC? that's their fuckup. Not sure it matters much anyway, people with the tiniest cough back in January were already being told to self quarantine for 2 weeks and act as if they were positive.

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    We haven’t seen nothing yet, this virus will make its rounds regardless of our efforts. Ya we slowed it a bit, but only prolonging the misery. We cannot stop it in a time period that will make a fuck of difference, if at all.

    Get ready to dance across the space invaders screen 📺 and see if you make it to the other side. Sorry, that’s the way it is. Either you cower in the trenches, or make a run for it. I am gonna run and if I get shot, see you nigs in the forum in the sky. I am done hiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splitthis View Post
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    It’s Coronas death clock, wouldn’t matter who was in charge or if anything was done different, shit would still kill.
    It wouldn't kill as many. Trump's incompetence is to blame for the excess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak View Post
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    It’s Coronas death clock, wouldn’t matter who was in charge or if anything was done different, shit would still kill.
    It wouldn't kill as many. Trump's incompetence is to blame for the excess.
    Of course it will. It kills x percentage of each demographic and pretty much everyone will get it. The point of the shut down was to not overwhelm hospitals which would result in people dying that could have actually been saved.

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