So coronavirus is definitely going to kill a few of us.

[BetCheckBet]

And again Trump didn;t even understand the flu kills people. Please stop spreading propaganda that Trump has any understanding of this stuff. He's a fucking idiot when it comes to this. That is not open for debate.

What is open for debate is how to restart the economy while not overwhelming the health care system.


Oh and Trump is a pussy for not calling out those who are breaking social distancing.

[nightmarefish]

About to get hot in Cali. We’ll see if this shit disappears...

[Walter Sobchak]

Kentucky sees highest spike in coronavirus cases after lockdown protests



https://nypost.com/2020/04/20/kentuc...fter-protests/



wonder what political affiliation those new cases were..

Red states are the next hot spot. Cases are already spiking there.

[Walter Sobchak]

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https://twitter.com/twt/status/1252359001393651717

Maybe they forgot God sends plagues sometimes. It was just Passover.

[duped_samaritan]

Heads up Druff, when people embed tweets the quote formatting gets messed up and the reply appears inside the original.

Unfortunately this is a very tough one to fix. I've taken a crack at it before and couldn't resolve it. I might give it another shot this week, since there's so much tweet-posting these days.

The Trump supporters, that can't even point out a single country on a map of the world, would benefit the most from this. I hope this motivates you because it's a pain in the ass to post a tweet as is.

[Salty_Aus]

Thousands walked in. Would have been nice to nab a few thousand by March 4?

Your screening process was laughable. You even filled airports with people while waiting 4 hours plus to be screened.... in the end most just walked straight past.

50,000 tests on the front end might have saved more then you think, and it would not have spread so fast.
Isn't it plausible you could have traced a high percentage that came through too?
100% you should have had lots of tests by early Feb. The Chinese warned you properly end of January, gave you enough data to make a test immediately. You wasted a month here, I think it was a valuable month to lose.

There were reports that the CDC had an initial fuck up due to contamination that delayed testing. Still not sure how many extra deaths this resulted in. I told you anyone with minor symptoms was quarantining anyway and told to act as if they had tested positive. There's no cure and basically no treatment so it's not like if you knew you were positive you could go to a hospital and they would save you.

It's easy to look back and say we should have done this or that but almost no one was truly scared of this in January (Atine excluded). Hell I still went to a concert in late February and was playing pickup basketball in early-mid March. Even Dr. Fauci wasn't concerned in January. Pelosi was parading around with a crowd in San Francisco in late February saying everything is perfectly safe and to come join her.

Let's look at the hypothetical situation that everything was done absolutely perfectly say in January and almost no one died. What do you think would have happen in this scenario? There would have been people all over the country saying it was a hoax and pressuring to open the country back up. So we would be currently open and the spread would probably hit us even harder because closing the country down again after everyone is convinced it's a hoax would be even more difficult.

I just don't think there was a good solution here given the number of people that are asymptomatic, there's no vaccine and the USA culture in general. Throw any other administration in there and you wouldn't have a lower body count.

We were all over it early. If we didn't test 10,000 people early and properly isolated the initial wave we'd probably have 20,000 cases minimum and it would be totally out of control by now.... 50,000 - 100,000 cases more likely and several thousand dead.

We had 13 new cases yesterday.

Sorry dude but you'll not convince me that waiting a month to test people in any number was a responsible response.

[nightmarefish]

There were reports that the CDC had an initial fuck up due to contamination that delayed testing. Still not sure how many extra deaths this resulted in. I told you anyone with minor symptoms was quarantining anyway and told to act as if they had tested positive. There's no cure and basically no treatment so it's not like if you knew you were positive you could go to a hospital and they would save you.

It's easy to look back and say we should have done this or that but almost no one was truly scared of this in January (Atine excluded). Hell I still went to a concert in late February and was playing pickup basketball in early-mid March. Even Dr. Fauci wasn't concerned in January. Pelosi was parading around with a crowd in San Francisco in late February saying everything is perfectly safe and to come join her.

Let's look at the hypothetical situation that everything was done absolutely perfectly say in January and almost no one died. What do you think would have happen in this scenario? There would have been people all over the country saying it was a hoax and pressuring to open the country back up. So we would be currently open and the spread would probably hit us even harder because closing the country down again after everyone is convinced it's a hoax would be even more difficult.

I just don't think there was a good solution here given the number of people that are asymptomatic, there's no vaccine and the USA culture in general. Throw any other administration in there and you wouldn't have a lower body count.

We were all over it early. If we didn't test 10,000 people early and properly isolated the initial wave we'd probably have 20,000 cases minimum and it would be totally out of control by now.... 50,000 - 100,000 cases more likely and several thousand dead.

We had 13 new cases yesterday.

Sorry dude but you'll not convince me that waiting a month to test people in any number was a responsible response.

Why do you keep comparing our countries as if it’s apples to apples? How many planes do you have landing there a day from China? How many planes do you have landing there a day from Europe? Once again it’s known that the CDC fucked up the early testing because of a contamination issue. I guess I don’t understand where you’re coming from or what your point is.

Not sure why you think Australia was so on top of things, seems like you were following the USA. Jan 31th USA banned travel from China, Feb 1st Australia banned travel from China. March 13th USA declares national emergency, March 15th Australia declares national emergency.

[Salty_Aus]

We were all over it early. If we didn't test 10,000 people early and properly isolated the initial wave we'd probably have 20,000 cases minimum and it would be totally out of control by now.... 50,000 - 100,000 cases more likely and several thousand dead.

We had 13 new cases yesterday.

Sorry dude but you'll not convince me that waiting a month to test people in any number was a responsible response.

Why do you keep comparing our countries as if it’s apples to apples? How many planes do you have landing there a day from China? How many planes do you have landing there a day from Europe? Once again it’s known that the CDC fucked up the early testing because of a contamination issue. I guess I don’t understand where you’re coming from or what your point is.

Probably about 10% of the planes that you did.

Obviously you don't understand how critical it is to test folks, with the an extremely contagious pathogen entering your community.

I know you're much bigger then us. But seriously you did less then 500 tests. No backup plan to make sure tests were available... no real response really.
While your president told everybody to buy the market..... couple days it will be zero.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

[MumblesBadly]

i'm just worried that we're postponing this till we get a vaccine, which won't be for a year or 18 months. i'm not feeling a 50% unemployment rate in the meantime

This is a very fair point. The purpose of the quarantine was never to outlast the virus but people seem to be forgetting this. The purpose was to buy time and more importantly not overwhelm the health care system like what happened in Italy.

Its perfectly valid to explore re opening the economy. The problem is the discourse around it is horrible and Trump is incapable of committing to any action that he could be held responsible for. He's incapable of bringing the nation together and his haphazard statements only cause anger, panic, or resentment towards others.

[nightmarefish]

Why do you keep comparing our countries as if it’s apples to apples? How many planes do you have landing there a day from China? How many planes do you have landing there a day from Europe? Once again it’s known that the CDC fucked up the early testing because of a contamination issue. I guess I don’t understand where you’re coming from or what your point is.

Probably about 10% of the planes that you did.

Obviously you don't understand how critical it is to test folks, with the an extremely contagious pathogen entering your community.

I know you're much bigger then us. But seriously you did less then 500 tests. No backup plan to make sure tests were available... no real response really.
While your president told everybody to buy the market..... couple days it will be zero.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

For the last fucking time, the CDC had a contamination issue that delayed early testing. What the fuck don’t you understand? Every other major preventative measure Australia took was after the USA took it. Jan 31th USA banned travel from China, Feb 1st Australia banned travel from China. March 13th USA declares national emergency, March 15th Australia declares national emergency. Quit acting like your little ass country was on top of shit. You’re like someone from a rural red state that thinks they know how to fix big city problems because something works where they live.

[Salty_Aus]

We were all over it early. If we didn't test 10,000 people early and properly isolated the initial wave we'd probably have 20,000 cases minimum and it would be totally out of control by now.... 50,000 - 100,000 cases more likely and several thousand dead.

We had 13 new cases yesterday.

Sorry dude but you'll not convince me that waiting a month to test people in any number was a responsible response.

Why do you keep comparing our countries as if it’s apples to apples? How many planes do you have landing there a day from China? How many planes do you have landing there a day from Europe? Once again it’s known that the CDC fucked up the early testing because of a contamination issue. I guess I don’t understand where you’re coming from or what your point is.

Not sure why you think Australia was so on top of things, seems like you were following the USA. Jan 31th USA banned travel from China, Feb 1st Australia banned travel from China. March 13th USA declares national emergency, March 15th Australia declares national emergency.

You pull a date out of your arse and genuinely think we were just following the USA?

We had caught the vast majority of early cases by then, and we were tracing contacts. You were having COVID welcome parties in your airports as citizens returned about then. *shrugs*

[Salty_Aus]

Probably about 10% of the planes that you did.

Obviously you don't understand how critical it is to test folks, with the an extremely contagious pathogen entering your community.

I know you're much bigger then us. But seriously you did less then 500 tests. No backup plan to make sure tests were available... no real response really.
While your president told everybody to buy the market..... couple days it will be zero.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

For the last fucking time, the CDC had a contamination issue that delayed early testing. What the fuck don’t you understand? Every other major preventative measure Australia took was after the USA took it. Jan 31th USA banned travel from China, Feb 1st Australia banned travel from China. March 13th USA declares national emergency, March 15th Australia declares national emergency. Quit acting like your little ass country was on top of shit. You’re like someone from a rural red state that thinks they know how to fix big city problems because something works where they live.

Stop pulling stupid dates out of your arse like you have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

Hopefully it is the last fucking time you talk shit.

[nightmarefish]

For the last fucking time, the CDC had a contamination issue that delayed early testing. What the fuck don’t you understand? Every other major preventative measure Australia took was after the USA took it. Jan 31th USA banned travel from China, Feb 1st Australia banned travel from China. March 13th USA declares national emergency, March 15th Australia declares national emergency. Quit acting like your little ass country was on top of shit. You’re like someone from a rural red state that thinks they know how to fix big city problems because something works where they live.

Stop pulling stupid dates out of your arse like you have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

Hopefully it is the last fucking time you talk shit.

You’re disputing those dates? Wtf, you think I just made them up?

Btw, you were the one talking shit about my country. In Response I post facts about your country’s response and you get butt hurt. Pretty pathetic by you actually.

[Salty_Aus]

Stop pulling stupid dates out of your arse like you have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

Hopefully it is the last fucking time you talk shit.

You’re disputing those dates? Wtf, you think I just made them up?

I rarely lose patience with people. But you are insufrebly stupid.

[nightmarefish]

You’re disputing those dates? Wtf, you think I just made them up?

I rarely lose patience with people. But you are insufrebly stupid.

It’s cute that you couldn’t provide any different dates after telling me the dates I looked up were wrong.

[Salty_Aus]

I rarely lose patience with people. But you are insufrebly stupid.

It’s cute that you couldn’t provide any different dates after telling me the dates I looked up were wrong.

Ohhh I get it. You're insulted that a foreigner thinks your response was less then insipid.
Sorry to hurt your feelings. None the less it's true.

The date means nothing. It has no real bearing on the response that was already working here.

[nightmarefish]

It’s cute that you couldn’t provide any different dates after telling me the dates I looked up were wrong.

Ohhh I get it. You're insulted that a foreigner thinks your response was less then insipid.
Sorry to hurt your feelings. None the less it's true.

The date means nothing. It has no real bearing on the response that was already working here.

It was working huh? That’s why you declared a national emergency 2 days after we did and went to social distancing measures after we did. Get your head out of your ass. You dodged this because you had early testing as well as very few travelers from China and Europe. USA had who knows how many more people come into the country that were infected from the simple fact that we have Infinite more flights from Europe and China than Australia does. Before Australia or USA either had their first official case the USA undoubtedly had thousands of people walking around with it. You add that to a population of 350 million and 80% infected being asymptotic and that equates to thousands of deaths minimum. Quit acting like your country did something amazing here when 90% of your response was simply following what the USA did.

[Salty_Aus]

Ohhh I get it. You're insulted that a foreigner thinks your response was less then insipid.
Sorry to hurt your feelings. None the less it's true.

The date means nothing. It has no real bearing on the response that was already working here.

It was working huh? That’s why you declared a national emergency 2 days after we did and went to social distancing measures after we did. Get your head out of your ass. You dodged this because you had early testing as well as very few travelers from China and Europe. USA had who knows how many more people come into the country that were infected from the simple fact that we have Infinite more flights from Europe and China than Australia does. Before Australia or USA either had their first official case the USA undoubtedly had thousands of people walking around with it. You add that to a population of 350 million and 80% infected being asymptotic and that equates to thousands of deaths minimum. Quit acting like your country did something amazing here when 90% of your response was simply following what the USA did.

Take a deep breath and admit your country got caught with your pants down. You'll feel better.

Our government here is mostly shit. But yes they did a stellar job in this instance.

[Hockey Guy]

About to get hot in Cali. We’ll see if this shit disappears...

Like in Equador & Singapore?

[nightmarefish]

It was working huh? That’s why you declared a national emergency 2 days after we did and went to social distancing measures after we did. Get your head out of your ass. You dodged this because you had early testing as well as very few travelers from China and Europe. USA had who knows how many more people come into the country that were infected from the simple fact that we have Infinite more flights from Europe and China than Australia does. Before Australia or USA either had their first official case the USA undoubtedly had thousands of people walking around with it. You add that to a population of 350 million and 80% infected being asymptotic and that equates to thousands of deaths minimum. Quit acting like your country did something amazing here when 90% of your response was simply following what the USA did.

Take a deep breath and admit your country got caught with your pants down. You'll feel better.

Our government here is mostly shit. But yes they did a stellar job in this instance.

They were just following their daddy the USA so you must think the USA did a good job as well. You’re welcome.