So coronavirus is definitely going to kill a few of us.

[simpdog]

US jumps into 6th place past South Korea and France.

Who needs the Olympics?

[GrenadaRoger]

suspending evictions and foreclosures until April month end seems reasonable to me

it is similar to what the federal government has already done re: income taxes--the penalty payment deadline has been moved to July 15.

Thus, the government has said: "you can pay later without penalty, but the taxes are not forgiven."

so rents have been deferred, not forgiven, by the suspension.


and to Tellafriend re: foreseeable -- business downturns happen regularly, most mild, but some severe as in 1974, 1981, 1987, 1994, 2001, and 2008...even in biblical times Pharaoh had Benjamin tell him to store up during the 7 years of good harvests for the coming 7 bad years..

[Jayjami]

"If the government wants to prevent a homeless problem from worsening the infection, they should guarantee the rent payments themselves during this time, and then establish some sort of repayment plan for these people on the back-end when this is all over, with zero interest and generous terms. Something like that."-Dan Druff

The only thing that a landlord should be guaranteed right now is that no evictions and no foreclosures will take place. You also will never be made entirely whole by the government but you will still have your building. The details of future back rent payments and back mortgage payments by landlords and homeowners need to be left to when we know what the future of the nation is and how much damage has been done. The only thing that I am certain of is that almost every American will complain that they are bearing a greater proportion of the financial pain than everyone else.

What about the landlord who makes his living solely by collecting rent?

Tough luck on him? He starves?

What about the bills he has to pay for utilities, maintenance, ad upkeep during that year nobody is paying rent? Just out of his pocket?

There's a lot more to being a landlord than just avoiding foreclosure.

This is more than people whining "unfair" because the rules aren't quite the same as they were in 2019. This is really placing a huge disproportionate burden upon landlords, with no plan to reimburse them in any way -- either in the present or future.

Druff, this is what happens when you give your “expert opinion” on shit you know nothing about in the real world. Number one problem: an eviction in the court system is going to take forever now. Problem number 2: once you evict them, who are your prospective tenants? Crickets chirping. Problem 3: now your abandoned building is ripe for vandalism and theft. Are you going to occupy and protect it yourself? All things considered, leaving the tenant in the building is probably a better option for now.

Here’s how you help the landlords recoup their losses: a one year reduction in property taxes.

[sonatine]

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[blake]

suspending evictions won't work because landlords, themselves, will usually have mortgages they have to pay or they'll get foreclosed upon.

the government just needs to issue trillions of dollars worth of loans with 50-year terms at no interest, to get us through the next few months.

maybe give some incentive to taxpayers or businesses that repay them down the road, with the reality that much of it will never get repaid

[Tellafriend]

and to Tellafriend re: foreseeable -- business downturns happen regularly, most mild, but some severe as in 1974, 1981, 1987, 1994, 2001, and 2008...even in biblical times Pharaoh had Benjamin tell him to store up during the 7 years of good harvests for the coming 7 bad years..

oh I get it, but by using your logic - storing up for the rainy day - then we should not be bailing out any business other than those necessary for infrastructure, e.g., airlines. everyone should have saved their nuts.

[sonatine]

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that weird smell you may be noticing is the insulation frying in the republican hive-mind.

[Wiganer]

US jumps into 6th place past South Korea and France.

Who needs the Olympics?

USA! USA!

[BetCheckBet]

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In fairness case reporting is only as accurate as its methodology. Countries vary widely by number of tests available and who gets them. For instance in my city we have about a dozen confirmed cases but they are only testing people who recently travelled or were in direct contact with known case. so lots of people with symptoms being refused test. Public health official even acknowledged that with local transmission its quite likely there are hundreds of cases.

[sonatine]

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In fairness case reporting is only as accurate as its methodology. Countries vary widely by number of tests available and who gets them. For instance in my city we have about a dozen confirmed cases but they are only testing people who recently travelled or were in direct contact with known case. so lots of people with symptoms being refused test. Public health official even acknowledged that with local transmission its quite likely there are hundreds of cases.

i mean cool but check out that spreadsheet.

[OSA]

In fairness case reporting is only as accurate as its methodology. Countries vary widely by number of tests available and who gets them. For instance in my city we have about a dozen confirmed cases but they are only testing people who recently travelled or were in direct contact with known case. so lots of people with symptoms being refused test. Public health official even acknowledged that with local transmission its quite likely there are hundreds of cases.

i mean cool but check out that spreadsheet.

NO/ST Bernards Parish was at the epicenter of the opioid crisis as well.

[GrenadaRoger]

What about the landlord who makes his living solely by collecting rent?

Tough luck on him? He starves?

What about the bills he has to pay for utilities, maintenance, ad upkeep during that year nobody is paying rent? Just out of his pocket?

There's a lot more to being a landlord than just avoiding foreclosure.

This is more than people whining "unfair" because the rules aren't quite the same as they were in 2019. This is really placing a huge disproportionate burden upon landlords, with no plan to reimburse them in any way -- either in the present or future.

Druff, this is what happens when you give your “expert opinion” on shit you know nothing about in the real world. Number one problem: an eviction in the court system is going to take forever now. Problem number 2: once you evict them, who are your prospective tenants? Crickets chirping. Problem 3: now your abandoned building is ripe for vandalism and theft. Are you going to occupy and protect it yourself? All things considered, leaving the tenant in the building is probably a better option for now.

Here’s how you help the landlords recoup their losses: a one year reduction in property taxes.

well said...let me add, a capitalist would say weak operators/underfinanced don't belong in an industry, they are taken over by the strong. if someone owns a property and is living month to month then sell the property and buy an annuity to guarantee income....Druff, your argument/hypothetical situation isn't consistent with your espoused ideology


and to Sonatine--the news Trump conference going on right now has only 4 people standing behind him...Brix is one of them, no Fanuci, Treasury Sec, Medicare head...still think they will make a movie about Dr Fan?

[Sloppy Joe]

When are they going to pull Trump off of these pressers?

Team jenius even must realize how damaging it is to see him stammer and unravel daily.

[gut]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/n...ronavirus.html

Interesting article there. Despite their family lawyer saying the kids had no underlying conditions, they are/were over 50 and obese.

Probably just a coincidence/ strong strain-weak systems. But it makes me wonder if there is some genetic predisposition to this as well.

[MumblesBadly]

suspending evictions and foreclosures until April month end seems reasonable to me

it is similar to what the federal government has already done re: income taxes--the penalty payment deadline has been moved to July 15.

Thus, the government has said: "you can pay later without penalty, but the taxes are not forgiven."

so rents have been deferred, not forgiven, by the suspension.


and to Tellafriend re: foreseeable -- business downturns happen regularly, most mild, but some severe as in 1974, 1981, 1987, 1994, 2001, and 2008...even in biblical times Pharaoh had Benjamin tell him to store up during the 7 years of good harvests for the coming 7 bad years..

I’d like to know what the additional relief bill that is working its way through Congress does for truckers and trucking companies. Independent truckers/owner-operators and trucking companies usually have lease payments to make and the economic downturn from the containment measures is likely to push a number of them into financial hot water. Larger companies probably have easy access to credit to ride it out, but smaller ones and independents probably don’t have it so easy.

[Shizzmoney]

We should of saw this coming...also makes sense the two biggest major cities (Seattle, NYC) where this is spreading happens to be when the Wuhan ppl spread out during Chinese New Year

[Baron Von Strucker]

Listen to this s guy on a podcast “Quirks & Quarks”

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/feb-...izon-1.5454940



Sheahan is an assistant professor of epidemiology at the Gillings School of Global Public Health at the University of North Carolina, and has been researching coronavirus treatments since the SARS epidemic.

He holds out greater hope for a drug he's tested in cell cultures and animals, called Remdesivir.

To put it bluntly, we are shadow boxing.
- Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, WHO
In a recent case study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, doctors describe using Remdesivir — developed for treating Ebola — to treat a coronavirus patient in Washington State. The patient improved, with their viral load reduced, but a single case proves very little.

Sheahan said until scientists conduct rigorous human clinical trials, we can't know how these drugs will fare.

"I'm optimistic, just because I have firsthand experience with [Remdesivir] in the lab," he said.

not for nothing but Gilead (the manufacturer) lost like 3% stock value on their earnings report last week, so maybe dont hold your breath on this.

Bump

[GrenadaRoger]

suspending evictions and foreclosures until April month end seems reasonable to me

it is similar to what the federal government has already done re: income taxes--the penalty payment deadline has been moved to July 15.

Thus, the government has said: "you can pay later without penalty, but the taxes are not forgiven."

so rents have been deferred, not forgiven, by the suspension.


and to Tellafriend re: foreseeable -- business downturns happen regularly, most mild, but some severe as in 1974, 1981, 1987, 1994, 2001, and 2008...even in biblical times Pharaoh had Benjamin tell him to store up during the 7 years of good harvests for the coming 7 bad years..

I’d like to know what the additional relief bill that is working its way through Congress does for truckers and trucking companies. Independent truckers/owner-operators and trucking companies usually have lease payments to make and the economic downturn from the containment measures is likely to push a number of them into financial hot water. Larger companies probably have easy access to credit to ride it out, but smaller ones and independents probably don’t have it so easy.

you are right...the trucking business is a vital service to the country; no good to make masks, supplies and medicine if it can't be distributed

[sonatine]

lol why on earth would truckers get a bailout.

youre shitposting about how jealous you are of people getting financial relief who have been impacted by a plague, instead of doing your fucking job.

eyes on the road you fuckin clown.

[sonatine]

anyone notice that fauci has been missing for days?