Why was he killing Americans?Originally Posted by nightmarefish
(((if that statement is even accurate)))
Why was he killing Americans?
(((if that statement is even accurate)))
How many before you would be on board?Why was he killing Americans?
(((is that statement is even accurate)))
devidee voting for hillary is the most shocking development in this thread.
If it was between her and any of the current Dem candidates in 2020, I would pick her 100 out of 100 times. And I hate that bitch.
yeah but would you pick her over trump?If it was between her and any of the current Dem candidates in 2020, I would pick her 100 out of 100 times. And I hate that bitch.
Should say SONatine lol
Probably burn my vote again. Last time I couldn’t in good coincidence vote for either of them and burned mine on, LMFAO, Gary Johnson.yeah but would you pick her over trump?
6 gorillianHow many before you would be on board?
Well.... there is the fact that he was actualy Exicuting the plans. That seems like an important mention here.
its the equivalent of killing bolton or rumsfeld at the respective peaks of their careers.
also...:
“General Suleimani was actively developing plans to attack American diplomats and service members in Iraq and throughout the region,”
thats called war games. every country on earth does this. what if we did this, what would happen if we did that, how would we accomplish x y z. you actively develop plans so youre ready to pivot to responses in real time.
No it's not. Id ramble on my point but its late and you're wrong even if I don't.
Ill state it simply this way...
In 230 years since written the line between the limits of a presidents ability to act has been unclear.
What is now more clear is the declaration of war, not military action.
Truman was the first to declare war before asking.
So far at LEAST 40-50+ military actions one may consider needing congress to approve have taken place since 9/11, congress did NOTHING each time.
You see, if what Trump did by ordering this MILITARY ACTION is impeachable, you have handfuls of presidents to impeach.
So cuts the leftist BS, it was a clean kill. The only issue Pelosi or Congress has with this one is Trump did it.
Goodnight folks
He assasinated the probable #2 guy in Iran. That transcends a “military action”.
Like most other people I’m not exactly against what happened, but this is a major major event. He crossed the rubicon on this act.
re: latest with Iran
it's another fine mess we've gotten ourselves into
ya know, the WWII PAX Americana era is about up...as a US Citizen I say there better be a payoff if we are gonna take on the last unfriendly major oil producer in the middle east
so an alert to all you Euro Pussy Cuntries -- you better join in a pay/do your share on this or you will be surcharged max when the US/Russia/India/Japan/SE Asian coalition takes over the middle east--you think you bastards and sit around slacking while getting rich without US getting wise to your horseshit? Join up or we'll leave you to deal with China yourselves
Last edited by GrenadaRoger; 01-03-2020 at 11:52 AM.
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Although per your sarcasm this is not a functional government by any stroke of the imagination.
I am still astounded by the muted reaction. There is no fear and uncertainty. This will be a debate about Parliamentary procedure in the end.
He assasinated the probable #2 guy in Iran. That transcends a “military action”.
Like most other people I’m not exactly against what happened, but this is a major major event. He crossed the rubicon on this act.
Impeachment, unilateral political assassination in an oil producing country. Nothing. Calm.
You can’t help but recall Trump’s “I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters.” I don’t credit Trump so much as wonder who America is.
I try very hard to live and trade what I see, think for myself and filter the noise. Mute CNBC, Fox, etc etc. People are odd and I view them with curiosity. What I think is not reflected by the public. It gives me a distance and objectivity I value greatly.
Dark corners of the internet and infotainment will drone on but you gotta filter that shit. It’s not reflective of the masses.
Nevertheless, personally I do not get it. This assassination would have insta-shook markets 10 or 20 years ago. Our military actions throughout the world for the past 70 years infuriates me. People have never been better informed and yet so apathetic. Weird times.
We’ve been at it so long over there through so many administrations that I think people have removed it from their consciousness.
At 6 gorillian achievement is unlocked and you get awarded a free ethno-State.
Although per your sarcasm this is not a functional government by any stroke of the imagination.
fun fact; he warned putin but not congress.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
not so weird...its what the ultra elite of the western world want...take over the last unfriendly oil country in the middle east and keep it from Chinese influence
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I just had to ventnot so weird...its what the ultra elite of the western world want...take over the last unfriendly oil country in the middle east and keep it from Chinese influence
But you aren’t wrong. I don’t have the time but I’d bet $10 that Iran was Truman’s first action post WWII for precisely the same reasons
Foreverso
As a finer point.... We are less dependent on foreign oil than ever. China is more dependent than ever. The first is easy to understand today ... the latter harder to absorb
Last edited by Sanlmar; 01-03-2020 at 12:26 PM.
It’s mostly your last paragraph san. I mean, if you’re even 30, what do you know since you’re 10 years old? I find myself talking to young people and I’ll think, you’re 23, your memory of 9/11 is similar to my memory of helicopters on roofs in Saigon and wonder why I’m talking to them like they have any real frame of reference? Old persons folly. Like when I was a kid and my grandparents would talk about Pearl Harbor day.
I imagine it would have shook markets in the past because people naturally leapt to what Russia or China’s response would be. But really when is the last time shit was even tense? Cuban Missile Crisis? People just sense that this is all kabuki theater to feed the military industrial complex and you’ll have your expected condemnations by Russia or whomever and right back to business as usual. Creating war from a different angle in the Middle East is business as usual.
Add in 200 channels no one watches besides old people because most are watching YouTube and immediately it’s all disinformation one way or the other. We got comfortable with presidential overreach during that Alberto Gonzales era and Obama continued it and everyone realized presidents could do what they wanted and it only mattered if people cared, and people don’t care. It’s kind of amazing. Add in our president is Trump and it’s all through the looking glass. I don’t even know what’s supposed to be important or matter. I find myself looking around after something seems important and no one gives a fuck and I think it must be me.
he said what???
according to ABC News today:
re: ...the U.S. airstrike that killed Iranian commander Qassem Soleimani, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham said Friday that he was informed about the operation beforehand earlier this week while visiting President Donald Trump in Florida.
"I appreciate being brought into the orbit. I really appreciate President Trump letting the world know you cannot kill an American without impunity," Graham said.
wrong words...should be "without retaliation" or "with impunity"
both the Senator and ABC News need a dictionary imo
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shout out to tulsi gabbard suddenly not being quite so ... present.
"Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky
"America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs
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