Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
A more moderate version of Warren would actually be a tough opponent for Trump.

The actual version, who is too obsessed with free stuff and other far left proposals, is going to be a tough sell in those same swing states Trump grabbed in 2016.

I watched the entire debate. I heard very little disagreement on that stage, aside from a few attacks on Biden. Everyone was afraid to stray too much from the far left narrative, even the candidates who aren't actually far left. It's like they haven't learned anything from the failures of 2016. Swing voters do not relate well to the current far left, and they find the hyper-focus on identity politics and free stuff to be extremely off-putting.

This reminds me a bit of 2010, when Republicans basically made the same mistake, attempting to out-right-wing each other, and sending some awful candidates to very winnable Senate races. The result? Republicans tossed away five Senate seats they easily could have won that year. How nice would those be to have right now? I complained a lot at the time about that, and lamented the rise of the thankfully-now-inconsequential "Tea Party".

Now Dems are making the same mistake, and it might just earn Trump a second term.
it's not that i disagree with your analysis, but an actual ham sandwich would get 48% of the vote against trump and the turnout would be record breaking. (dead serious btw.)

so any traditional analysis of politics might not apply here