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Yes i agree with that.

Think of a hand of poker with 10 players. The pot is 60k and 1 player wins. How much did the other 9 lose individually?

You can say that together the other nine lost 60k. That would be the zero-sum. Every one of the 9 could have won 60k.
You’re making a different point than i am. In your hypothetical, one person would have gained $60,000. All I’m saying is New York did not gain the jobs and revenue it could have. Please ignore whether it “lost” jobs and revenue. That is a red herring.
Ok we don't have to go with literal meaning of lost. We usually do, but whatever.

I don't know if i need to ask if you agree with your own question now. This one.

"new york didn't lose 60,000 additional jobs and $24,000,000,000 in tax revenue. however, it could have gained 60,000 jobs and $24,000,000,000 in revenue but now won't."

My point is that it isn't a unique offer in it's nature. Saying no to Amazon doesn't mean NY has no way of using tax breaks to attract businesses. That's why it's wrong to say NY "lost" 60k jobs. They might not get as good deals or they might get better deals. I don't know. But i know they can get offers and if they feel like it they can invest in small businesses. Oh and that's how AOC gets her 25k jobs. I think that was the original question.

You can make a case for lost equity. Cost of some other batch of 25k jobs likely isn't precisely 3.4bil (or potential gain), but the source is roughly the same. It just isn't Amazon.