If a doctor is "found to be doing that"?

Doing what?

If a woman comes in with mental health complaints and wants an abortion at the 8.5 month mark, performing this abortion would be legal under New York law!

You cannot revoke someone's license for performing legal abortions.
You can if they are found in violation of ethics

It's the same reason "pot doctors" were able to exist in medical marijuana states. Sure, we all knew it was a sham, and almost all of the customers were faking pain in order to get pot, but the medical marijuana laws were broad enough to where nothing could be done.

Customer would come in, doctor would ask, "Do you have any pain for which you need marijuana to reduce the symptoms?"

Customer would respond, "Uhh.... yeah... ummm... oh, yeah my back kinda hurts."

Doctor would answer, "Back pain... yes, marijuana could be helpful for that. Approved! Go pick up your card in the front."

There will be similar late term abortion doctors who will operate the same way.

Why? Because there will be money in doing so, and there's no shortage of unethical doctors who will do anything quasi-legal for a quick buck.
Yes because pot is the same as, by your definition, "murder" or by my definition, aborting an unborn fetus.

Why do you think "nobody is going to use" this loophole?
Because I'm not a cynical fear mongering senile old man? Again, do I need to paint the scenario playing in your head for everyone again? You have this thought that a bunch of liberal women and men are touching themselves at the fact at aborting a child at 25 weeks. Let me rephrase my previous statement for you: NO ONE, that is in their right mind, for reasons other than life threatening situations would abort a child that late. If they do, and it's not for that reason they're sick. If you really think that people are just going to do this for funsies then you are sick too my friend.

Do you not realize that doctors get requests from women all the time for late term abortions, simply because women changed their minds (usually due to an abrupt change in life circumstance)?

There aren't many studies about reasons for late term abortions, but the few that exist show that a substantial number are requested for reasons OTHER than serious health issues of the mom or unborn child. Did you watch the Crowder video I posted where he actually shows one of those studies (from a left-wing publication, no less)?
1. I need a better citation on that question than the one you provided, but I'll get to that citation in a minute. There are about 152 million women in the US, if you seriously think that any more than maybe 2% of those are looking into this and more than 0.1% are seriously going through with it, you're off your rocker.

2. Citing a self proclaimed comedian as a scientific authority on the matter and using his conclusion, instead of the papers, is easily the punchline in this whole entire joke of an argument. Also, you state a few other studies, citations please.

3. "Left-wing publication" - This research was published in National Center for Biotechnology Information. It was published by the US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health and a dozen other publications. You're going to need to be more specific about "Left-wing publication". Give me a link to whatever publication you're referring to and give me a link to whatever independent review of said publisher showing that it has left-wing tendences.

4. Now lets break down this publication and see what it says now.

As part of a larger study, 272 women who received an abortion at or after 20 weeks' gestation and 169 who received first-trimester abortions at 16 facilities across the country in 2008-2010 were interviewed one week after the procedure. Mixed effect logistic regression analyses were used to determine the characteristics associated with later abortion (i.e., at 20 weeks or later). Causes of delay in obtaining abortion were assessed in open- and closed-ended questions; profiles of women who received later abortions were identified through factor analysis.
4a. 272 women of fucking 151 million, IN 2008-2010. Lets take a closer look at this as well should we. 2008 had 14 births per 1000 people, 2009 13.5, 2010 13. Assuming an even split through the years of the study lets say 90 each year.
2008 population 304100000 / 1000 = 304100, then assuming 90 people that's 0.03% of the population represented
2009 population 306800000 / 1000 = 306800 / 90, then assuming 90 people that's also 0.03%
2010 population 309300000 / 1000 = 309300 / 90, and what a surprise 0.03%



Women aged 20-24 were more likely than those aged 25-34 to have a later abortion (odds ratio, 2.7), and women who discovered their pregnancy before eight weeks' gestation were less likely than others to do so (0.1). Later abortion recipients experienced logistical delays (e.g., difficulty finding a provider and raising funds for the procedure and travel costs), which compounded other delays in receiving care. Most women seeking later abortion fit at least one of five profiles: They were raising children alone, were depressed or using illicit substances, were in conflict with a male partner or experiencing domestic violence, had trouble deciding and then had access problems, or were young and nulliparous.

CONCLUSION:
Bans on abortion after 20 weeks will disproportionately affect young women and women with limited financial resources.
This is the conclusion from the paper, not "everyone is baby killers" like you're fear mongering.

Also, this is about 20 weeks! It's not even about 24 weeks which is the limit almost everywhere. If you go on to read the full paper they estimate 1% of abortions occur at 21 weeks or later. This is after stating 7% at 14-20 weeks. You can only assume there's some kind of downward trend relationship. At 24 weeks It's probably around 0.2%, and then after that there's going to be even more of a drop after the legislation.

This Crowder statement where he basically says the study is saying they kill babies for no reason but to kill babies is ludicrous. Only 32% of the people who performed a 20 week or later abortion even knew they were pregnant before 8 weeks, compared to earlier abortions which were at 88%. While only 44% of these were for chronic health reasons, you can't really just look at that and then go "Wowzer Crowder you were right". Crowder literally posted one line from the paper which wasn't even the papers own conclusion, it was a reference to other papers in the fucking literature review.

94% of those women who were studied to have a 20 week or later abortion had barriers whether it was socio-economic or health related that prevented them from getting an abortion before then. Respectively, 65 and 44% of the women reported they couldn't do because they didn't have the money or because insurance would not cover it, but fuck it lets just cut funding to planned parenthood anyway, then there will be less abortions. LOL, you can't stop abortions by making them more expensive and less accessible, all it does is provide later term abortions and have you yelling "baby killers" at people who may not even had known the week before they were pregnant.

So since we have women who will definitely want to terminate late term pregnancies for totally immoral reasons, the only safeguard against it would be the doctors, and as I explained in the last post, it's not difficult to find a doctor who will do anything unethical if it's technically legal.
Immoral is your word and opinion, and is not rooted in fact. See the above response in regards to the paper. Also, definitely is not a word you can use here because you've yet to provide actual evidence that this is the case.

Even if just 10% of all late term abortions are unjustified, that number is way too high, and extremely tragic.
So let 90% of the women in this situation die because 10% of them are as you would say "baby killers"? Hmm....who is the real murderer here? This is like the fucking train track problem and you're telling me you're going to kill the 5 people instead of flipping the switch and killing 1? Whatever, it's philosophical opinion and doesn't really contribute to the facts we have at hand anyway.

For those saying, "The population is way too high, so it's fine", that never justifies murder. If you think human beings should be killed for population control, why not just shoot yourself? Serious question.
Druff please, you really need to chill out on this hyperbole. No one that is sane in this discussion is arguing that and if you're sane you already know this.

It is appalling that there are people who support this law, or even abortions at 24 weeks "for any reason", for that matter.

Have some fucking decency and respect for human life.
It is appalling that you switch back and forth between "caring for the mother's life" and saying "fuck you you're sick". Either bring a better alternative to the table, or sit the fuck back down. This national discussion doesn't need people that sit there and point out flaws without bringing a viable working solution. Which, anyone here sitting here with a rational mind can clearly see you do not have.


Another go-to left wing response to late term abortion criticism.

I also would have accepted, "OMG OMG you want to protect babies in the womb but don't care about them once they're born poor! Heartless Republican!"
You completely ignored his question, you've also completely ignored my question in regards to your opinion on tax law reform. Both of these questions are valid questions and have valid arguments that lead into this discussion, and all you can do is ignore them or try to red hering it. Your own paper that you cite as evidence concludes that the women that are most vulnerable to 20 week or later abortion are financially disadvantaged women, but you want to red hering the discussion about providing better medical support for them?


I still love how the left basically concedes that these laws open the door to murder, but we should feel totally secure because no woman or doctor would ever actually kill a late term baby without a good reason.
More red hering with a twist of hyperbole. Murder is your word, not mine, and I'd venture to say not the words of quite a lot of people. To me murder is is telling a woman at 25 weeks pregnancy that she's going to die in a couple months because whats inside her is going to destroy her and you're just going to watch her die because you're afraid of some 1 in 10000000 chance that someone will have a late term abortion for the lulz.