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    Enough of letting these Zogbots attack one of the few people who stands up to corporate power.
    Mumbles get ready to attack Cruz. don't let the fake polls fool you. Beto's raised enough money to counter the propaganda, trust me fake polls.

    Back to Warren

    The fact she released the results is a huge boost to her credibility. What would you prefer her to be your typical snake in the grass who's always looking for a way to manipulate the people.

    It's corporations vs the people and Warren and Beto are worth fighting for, Charrrrge!

    Got to practice overthrowing these corporate Zogbots just in case Bernie makes a move in 2020. Patrick Little supporters know about the fake polls trick, don't let them take the wind out of your sails.

    The economy is being pumped up by the rich so they can keep their tax cuts, then there's this war they want to get us into, Beto could be an important piece. Why are they attacking warren when there's the Tim Kaine's who don't even belong in the party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FPS_Russia View Post
    Enough of letting these Zogbots attack one of the few people who stands up to corporate power.
    Mumbles get ready to attack Cruz. don't let the fake polls fool you. Beto's raised enough money to counter the propaganda, trust me fake polls.

    Back to Warren

    The fact she released the results is a huge boost to her credibility. What would you prefer her to be your typical snake in the grass who's always looking for a way to manipulate the people.

    It's corporations vs the people and Warren and Beto are worth fighting for, Charrrrge!

    Got to practice overthrowing these corporate Zogbots just in case Bernie makes a move in 2020. Patrick Little supporters know about the fake polls trick, don't let them take the wind out of your sails.

    The economy is being pumped up by the rich so they can keep their tax cuts, then there's this war they want to get us into, Beto could be an important piece. Why are they attacking warren when there's the Tim Kaine's who don't even belong in the party.

    All of you libs on the board can have FPS on your team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkdowndonedied View Post
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    Self centered narcissist (like every person that would ever consider running for pouts) deluded herself into thinking part of her good looks came from a comment her probably crazy aunt said "u got such nice high cheekbones cuz we're part Indian" and should now know she's a loony toon for thinking that but probably too old now to admit to herself how much of a stooge she was thinking that for 40-50 years
    Ahh yes, and lets now add "welcher" to Trunp's list of accomplishments.

    #winnerswinning
    Fkn stooge why did u quote my comment to make ur post which obviously should have been a stand-alone, ur almost as out of it as FPS

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    Self centered narcissist (like every person that would ever consider running for pouts) deluded herself into thinking part of her good looks came from a comment her probably crazy aunt said "u got such nice high cheekbones cuz we're part Indian" and should now know she's a loony toon for thinking that but probably too old now to admit to herself how much of a stooge she was thinking that for 40-50 years
    Holy shit. I agree with you.

    I guess even a retard will eventually make a good point if he never stops posting.

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    Here is an actual recent case of someone faking being Native American in order to game the system for financial gain. Surprise! Surprise! He’s a Republican! *And* the brother-in-law (and recent business partner) of the GOP House Rep for the district his business operates in.



    P.S. Where’s Druff’s outrage about this case of someone cheating the system???

     
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    we need mandatory DNA testing to out every murderous savage masquerading as a white person

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    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by thesidedish View Post
    Self centered narcissist (like every person that would ever consider running for pouts) deluded herself into thinking part of her good looks came from a comment her probably crazy aunt said "u got such nice high cheekbones cuz we're part Indian" and should now know she's a loony toon for thinking that but probably too old now to admit to herself how much of a stooge she was thinking that for 40-50 years
    Holy shit. I agree with you.

    I guess even a retard will eventually make a good point if he never stops posting.
    I also agree, but this isn't the main point.

    I wouldn't have cared if she considered herself "part Native American" as long as she acknowledged that it was a really tiny part of her ancestry, and didn't exploit it for personal/career gain.

    Officially changing one's race to Native American at your place of employment is a different story. That's indeed exploiting a miniscule/inconsequential portion of your ancestry to falsely claim "minority" status and gain some kind of undeserved victim/nonwhite cred.

    That part is where I have the biggest issue.

    If Warren had simply stuck to the claim that she was a tiny bit Native American, but took it no further than just giving it an occasional mention, I'd give her a pass. This speaks a lot about her character.

    However, whenever I bring this up, her leftist fans just keep throwing Trump back in my face.

    Does Trump lie? Yes.

    What do I think of Trump's character? It's not good.

    Is Trump probably a worse person than Warren? Yes.

    Does this make Warren any better? No.


    I find it hypocritical that the left, who constantly claims to be on the side of oppressed minorities, is mostly not bothered that one of their leading Presidential candidates is a Caucasian who basically faked being a minority in order to advance her academic reputation.

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    FPS is posting nonsense here (as usual), so I banned him from the thread.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by duped_samaritan View Post

    Holy shit. I agree with you.

    I guess even a retard will eventually make a good point if he never stops posting.
    I also agree, but this isn't the main point.

    I wouldn't have cared if she considered herself "part Native American" as long as she acknowledged that it was a really tiny part of her ancestry, and didn't exploit it for personal/career gain.

    Officially changing one's race to Native American at your place of employment is a different story. That's indeed exploiting a miniscule/inconsequential portion of your ancestry to falsely claim "minority" status and gain some kind of undeserved victim/nonwhite cred.

    That part is where I have the biggest issue.

    If Warren had simply stuck to the claim that she was a tiny bit Native American, but took it no further than just giving it an occasional mention, I'd give her a pass. This speaks a lot about her character.

    However, whenever I bring this up, her leftist fans just keep throwing Trump back in my face.

    Does Trump lie? Yes.

    What do I think of Trump's character? It's not good.

    Is Trump probably a worse person than Warren? Yes.

    Does this make Warren any better? No.


    I find it hypocritical that the left, who constantly claims to be on the side of oppressed minorities, is mostly not bothered that one of their leading Presidential candidates is a Caucasian who basically faked being a minority in order to advance her academic reputation.
    She clearly said she had distant ancestors, and yes she did chose to 'self identify' or be self identified as Native American. In my opinion she did this to further her career, or use it for some sort of gain. But my opinion is conjecture of course.

    It's a distant ancestral link and perhaps she shouldn't have identified as NA, but is it our business to judge at what point one should be entitled to self identify with an ancestral past?

    I really don't think there's much of a story here, even if she directly used it for financial gain as long as she broke no laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I also agree, but this isn't the main point.

    I wouldn't have cared if she considered herself "part Native American" as long as she acknowledged that it was a really tiny part of her ancestry, and didn't exploit it for personal/career gain.

    Officially changing one's race to Native American at your place of employment is a different story. That's indeed exploiting a miniscule/inconsequential portion of your ancestry to falsely claim "minority" status and gain some kind of undeserved victim/nonwhite cred.

    That part is where I have the biggest issue.

    If Warren had simply stuck to the claim that she was a tiny bit Native American, but took it no further than just giving it an occasional mention, I'd give her a pass. This speaks a lot about her character.

    However, whenever I bring this up, her leftist fans just keep throwing Trump back in my face.

    Does Trump lie? Yes.

    What do I think of Trump's character? It's not good.

    Is Trump probably a worse person than Warren? Yes.

    Does this make Warren any better? No.


    I find it hypocritical that the left, who constantly claims to be on the side of oppressed minorities, is mostly not bothered that one of their leading Presidential candidates is a Caucasian who basically faked being a minority in order to advance her academic reputation.
    She clearly said she had distant ancestors, and yes she did chose to 'self identify' or be self identified as Native American. In my opinion she did this to further her career, or use it for some sort of gain. But my opinion is conjecture of course.

    It's a distant ancestral link and perhaps she shouldn't have identified as NA, but is it our business to judge at what point one should be entitled to self identify with an ancestral past?

    I really don't think there's much of a story here, even if she directly used it for financial gain as long as she broke no laws.
    It's not a big story in itself.

    I don't think it disqualifies her from being fit to be President. Hell, look at all of Trump's follies -- it's a complete shitshow.

    However, Warren has always put herself forth as a stern, honest, trustworthy person who fights for the little guy. This somewhat damages that narrative, especially given that the Democratic Party is supposed to be all about protecting the interests of minorities, and here we had a white person claiming false minority status.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post

    I also agree, but this isn't the main point.

    I wouldn't have cared if she considered herself "part Native American" as long as she acknowledged that it was a really tiny part of her ancestry, and didn't exploit it for personal/career gain.

    Officially changing one's race to Native American at your place of employment is a different story. That's indeed exploiting a miniscule/inconsequential portion of your ancestry to falsely claim "minority" status and gain some kind of undeserved victim/nonwhite cred.

    That part is where I have the biggest issue.

    If Warren had simply stuck to the claim that she was a tiny bit Native American, but took it no further than just giving it an occasional mention, I'd give her a pass. This speaks a lot about her character.

    However, whenever I bring this up, her leftist fans just keep throwing Trump back in my face.

    Does Trump lie? Yes.

    What do I think of Trump's character? It's not good.

    Is Trump probably a worse person than Warren? Yes.

    Does this make Warren any better? No.


    I find it hypocritical that the left, who constantly claims to be on the side of oppressed minorities, is mostly not bothered that one of their leading Presidential candidates is a Caucasian who basically faked being a minority in order to advance her academic reputation.
    She clearly said she had distant ancestors, and yes she did chose to 'self identify' or be self identified as Native American. In my opinion she did this to further her career, or use it for some sort of gain. But my opinion is conjecture of course.

    It's a distant ancestral link and perhaps she shouldn't have identified as NA, but is it our business to judge at what point one should be entitled to self identify with an ancestral past?

    I really don't think there's much of a story here, even if she directly used it for financial gain as long as she broke no laws.
    And that conjecture was thoroughly investigated by the Boston Globe and found to be not supported by the evidence.

    Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html

    In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

    The Globe examined hundreds of documents, many of them never before available, and reached out to all 52 of the law professors who are still living and were eligible to be in that Pound Hall room at Harvard Law School. Some are Warren’s allies. Others are not. Thirty-one agreed to talk to the Globe — including the law professor who was, at the time, in charge of recruiting minority faculty. Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment.
    Bottom line: She never used her Native American heritage to further her career.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Druff View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post

    She clearly said she had distant ancestors, and yes she did chose to 'self identify' or be self identified as Native American. In my opinion she did this to further her career, or use it for some sort of gain. But my opinion is conjecture of course.

    It's a distant ancestral link and perhaps she shouldn't have identified as NA, but is it our business to judge at what point one should be entitled to self identify with an ancestral past?

    I really don't think there's much of a story here, even if she directly used it for financial gain as long as she broke no laws.
    It's not a big story in itself.

    I don't think it disqualifies her from being fit to be President. Hell, look at all of Trump's follies -- it's a complete shitshow.

    However, Warren has always put herself forth as a stern, honest, trustworthy person who fights for the little guy. This somewhat damages that narrative, especially given that the Democratic Party is supposed to be all about protecting the interests of minorities, and here we had a white person claiming false minority status.
    She needs to drop out immediately. I hope more shit comes out.

    As 2016 showed us, America isn't going to elect a woman anytime soon, instead opting for a completely unfit lunatic who continues to destroy America's reputation and standing worldwide.

    Perhaps Beto O'Rourke is playing a long game? He continues to humiliate Ted Cruz despite skipping in the polls in retard Texas.

    Best chance I see to neutralize the orange dotard.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MumblesBadly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Salty_Aus View Post

    She clearly said she had distant ancestors, and yes she did chose to 'self identify' or be self identified as Native American. In my opinion she did this to further her career, or use it for some sort of gain. But my opinion is conjecture of course.

    It's a distant ancestral link and perhaps she shouldn't have identified as NA, but is it our business to judge at what point one should be entitled to self identify with an ancestral past?

    I really don't think there's much of a story here, even if she directly used it for financial gain as long as she broke no laws.
    And that conjecture was thoroughly investigated by the Boston Globe and found to be not supported by the evidence.

    Ethnicity not a factor in Elizabeth Warren’s rise in law
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nat...O0K/story.html

    In the most exhaustive review undertaken of Elizabeth Warren’s professional history, the Globe found clear evidence, in documents and interviews, that her claim to Native American ethnicity was never considered by the Harvard Law faculty, which voted resoundingly to hire her, or by those who hired her to four prior positions at other law schools. At every step of her remarkable rise in the legal profession, the people responsible for hiring her saw her as a white woman.

    The Globe examined hundreds of documents, many of them never before available, and reached out to all 52 of the law professors who are still living and were eligible to be in that Pound Hall room at Harvard Law School. Some are Warren’s allies. Others are not. Thirty-one agreed to talk to the Globe — including the law professor who was, at the time, in charge of recruiting minority faculty. Most said they were unaware of her claims to Native American heritage and all but one of the 31 said those claims were not discussed as part of her hire. One professor told the Globe he is unsure whether her heritage came up, but is certain that, if it did, it had no bearing on his vote on Warren’s appointment.
    Bottom line: She never used her Native American heritage to further her career.
    You keep repeating the same thing over and over, ignoring the point we are raising.

    We are past the point of claiming that she got hired by claiming she was Native American. I'm willing to concede that likely didn't happen.

    So stop repeating that same response over and over.

    My problem is that AFTER she was tenured at Harvard, she officially changed her ethnicity there. This had to be for "minority cred" or some sort of perceived gain. Presumably she felt that being a minority professor at Harvard would give her more credibility.

    That was dishonest and exploitative, no matter which way you try to slice it.

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    At the end of the day her claiming to be a Native Indian isn’t going to stop her from being president. The fact that she’s a north east liberal is going to be the largest reason.

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    Let's look at Democratic candidates who have won in the past 50 years:

    Jimmy Carter (1976): Outsider whose earnest, try-hard demeanor won people over because he was the opposite of Tricky Dick Nixon.

    Bill Clinton (1992, 1996): Unknown small state governor who was charismatic and excited the base.

    Barack Obama (2008, 2012): Half-black, charismatic, well-spoken rising star who excited the base with a message about "hope" and "change".

    You know who hasn't won?

    Establishment politicians who seemed boring and out of touch: Humphrey (1968), McGovern (1972), Mondale (1984), Dukakis (1988), Gore (2000), Kerry (2004), Hillary Clinton (2016)

    Yet here go the Democrats again, pushing people like Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren.

    At least Bernie Sanders excites people, but he's too old, socialist, and polarizing to win the general election.

    Trump is very beatable in 2020, but I don't think the Democrats are going to put up a strong enough counter, especially if the economy remains good.

    We shall see.

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    What do you think of Kamala Harris?

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