I have a medical condition which will be tough to treat, and it means the end of radio (for now)

[Crowe Diddly]

There is no easy way to figure out the anxiety.

I've already explained this. Can't just pop a miracle pill and make it go away.

I don't want to go the SSRI route.

Everyone's anxiety is different, and treating it is different for everyone.

Yours sounded like more of a social anxiety.

Mine is either a generalized anxiety or a PTSD.

There are no easy solutions to this.

Have you tried meditation? It's been an anxiety remedy for probably thousands of years now. It's more of a miracle pill than most miracle pills.

The proof? There is an actual element causing voice hoarseness which wasn't there before. That can't be in my head.

Psychogenic voice disorders are quite real, dude.

[Baron Von Strucker]

I have tried to follow this thread and as best as i can tell a lot of you are a bunch of pill popping hypochondriacs micro analyzing there symptoms to justify a sloth way of life and excuse to medicate minor issues. I don't know of one person that takes pills for anxiety honestly am not quite sure what that feels like.
I guess i can get pretty pissed off if things arnt going my way, but i get over pretty quickly. our dentist offered my wife some adavan cause she's scared to get a bunch of work done. after reading about it she decided to have a couple shots of vodka instead, did the trick she said.

I hope you get better druff soon! have you ever seen a therapist? I like that you get outside and ski, hike. you may like to try some other activities that involve teams. stay out of gyms there really stupid.

I like playing tennis a few times a week, take a few lessons too. Pretty fun, cheep and fairly easy sport for almost anybody

edit: I like weed but i think your a little uptight for it to fix you. try to get a hold of Vegas1369 for some advice if you want to go that route

[BCR]

Unfortunately a lot of idiot ENT doctors approach LPR this exact way, leading to a lot of frustration for patients.

There is an anxiety element to what I have, yes, but it's not just anxiety making me feel I have LPR symptoms.

The proof? There is an actual element causing voice hoarseness which wasn't there before. That can't be in my head.

The truth is that, for most people, LPR is due to a real physical cause, but the brain interprets it as worse than it actually is (because it's in the throat area), thus causing a higher sensitivity and discomfort than it should otherwise deserve.

Unfortunately, some lazy ENT doctors will dismiss people and tell them, "It's just anxiety" when there's an absence of major indications of something wrong. That's a big mistake, and it's frustrating for the patient, as he really has something real and knows it.

If I mostly solve the LPR, the anxiety may or may not improve. It is also possible that the LPR activated a sensation that my brain now knows to "go to" when something feels off, and curing the LPR may not cure the anxiety.

Unfortunately the anxiety is not easily cured, and I don't want to go down the SSRI route right now.

Fair enough. Do it your way. It's done wonders for you so far. Down, what, almost forty pounds in two months with no end in sight. Same shitty symptoms you've had since day one their strength depending on how bad the anxiety is that day. Sounds like you've got it under control. Figure out the anxiety dude and stop making excuses. That's all I got man. I tried as hard as anyone on here.

I think it’s like 98% you’re rightt, yet I happened to be the one guy who was convinced it was something worse...and it was something worse. I’m in conflict.

[duped_samaritan]

Listen to pooh and the idiot doctors. (not being sarcastic)

[Dan Druff]

The proof? There is an actual element causing voice hoarseness which wasn't there before. That can't be in my head.

Psychogenic voice disorders are quite real, dude.

I can feel it's not psychogenic. In fact, sometimes the voice disorders come up when the anxiety and LPR are the farthest thing from my mind.

Also, redness was seen in my throat and voice box area by an ENT in August.

There is something called laryngeal sensory neuropathy (LSN) where oversensitive nerves in the larynx area cause symptoms similar to LPR. However, the main symptom of that is a chronic cough. I didn't have a cough at all for a long time, and now I only have a minor one, so I don't think it's that. The next ENT I see (a voice specialist) will see more and be able to diagnose more.

I would honestly be really shocked if nothing was wrong and this was all imagined.

BTW, thinking back, I did actually have mild LPR symptoms in years past, including a lump in my throat for about 30 minutes after I'd drink orange juice. Because it only lasted a short time, I just kinda noticed it as it would happen and would forget about it. It seems likely now that there was some LPR already happening, but it wasn't neary as bad as now, and it didn't cause any real problems.

To answer your other question, I have not yet tried meditation. To be honest, meditation is kinda not really "me", but I'm willing to try anything harmless to get rid of all of this. So I might try it at some point.

[Dan Druff]

Listen to pooh and the idiot doctors. (not being sarcastic)

The LPR boards are full of angry people who were told for years by their doctors that their symptoms were "all in their head", only to find out they had a hiatal hernia or something else very real causing their issues.

I have two separate problems which are also somewhat linked. I will not believe a doctor who barely looks at me and says, "It's just anxiety" over my own experiences, my own extensive research, and my own gut feeling on the matter.

FYI, LPR is a very real thing, and it's usually not just an "in your head" soft of malady. There is a psychological element to it (which I agree I have), but that is in addition to the physical issues, not in place of them.

[Dan Druff]

I have tried to follow this thread and as best as i can tell a lot of you are a bunch of pill popping hypochondriacs micro analyzing there symptoms to justify a sloth way of life and excuse to medicate minor issues. I don't know of one person that takes pills for anxiety honestly am not quite sure what that feels like.
I guess i can get pretty pissed off if things arnt going my way, but i get over pretty quickly. our dentist offered my wife some adavan cause she's scared to get a bunch of work done. after reading about it she decided to have a couple shots of vodka instead, did the trick she said.

I hope you get better druff soon! have you ever seen a therapist? I like that you get outside and ski, hike. you may like to try some other activities that involve teams. stay out of gyms there really stupid.

I like playing tennis a few times a week, take a few lessons too. Pretty fun, cheep and fairly easy sport for almost anybody

edit: I like weed but i think your a little uptight for it to fix you. try to get a hold of Vegas1369 for some advice if you want to go that route

I didn't know what anxiety felt like either, until August. It's not what you think it is. It's very hard or impossible to take control over your brain and overrule it when it gets in that state.

I found that I can get minimal control now, enough to avoid a panic attack or super-heavy anxiety, but not enough to get back to "normal".

You are on the right track with the physical activity outdoors. I think some moderate exercise + being outdoors is a good temporary anxiety remedy.

We already had the pot discussion earlier in the thread. I said that THC is known to increase anxiety. Some others who have experience with pot countered that Indica is actually good for anxiety, while other strains indeed worsen it.

I am not up to doing something like that, but it isn't something I would completely rule out if it could help.

[big dick]

BAN

[Dan Druff]

BAN

Yeah I just deleted FPS' post and kicked him out of the thread.

[big dick]

Good he's a weird retard

[Gookieheimowitz]

And it's finally come to this


A mid 40's Man living in a plastic bubble just like Travolta in the movies

This thread is finished . The paranoid ramblings of a mentally ill man.

[Pooh]

Listen to pooh and the idiot doctors. (not being sarcastic)

The LPR boards are full of angry people who were told for years by their doctors that their symptoms were "all in their head", only to find out they had a hiatal hernia or something else very real causing their issues.

I have two separate problems which are also somewhat linked. I will not believe a doctor who barely looks at me and says, "It's just anxiety" over my own experiences, my own extensive research, and my own gut feeling on the matter.

FYI, LPR is a very real thing, and it's usually not just an "in your head" soft of malady. There is a psychological element to it (which I agree I have), but that is in addition to the physical issues, not in place of them.

Yet you refuse to get an endoscopy to rule this out because you read on the internet it could make it worse. Can't make this shit up. You're a nut bag. With all due respect. You're going to have your hot water burn baby moment very soon at this rate and there's no coming back from that one.

[Pooh]

I have tried to follow this thread and as best as i can tell a lot of you are a bunch of pill popping hypochondriacs micro analyzing there symptoms to justify a sloth way of life and excuse to medicate minor issues. I don't know of one person that takes pills for anxiety honestly am not quite sure what that feels like.
I guess i can get pretty pissed off if things arnt going my way, but i get over pretty quickly. our dentist offered my wife some adavan cause she's scared to get a bunch of work done. after reading about it she decided to have a couple shots of vodka instead, did the trick she said.

I hope you get better druff soon! have you ever seen a therapist? I like that you get outside and ski, hike. you may like to try some other activities that involve teams. stay out of gyms there really stupid.

I like playing tennis a few times a week, take a few lessons too. Pretty fun, cheep and fairly easy sport for almost anybody

edit: I like weed but i think your a little uptight for it to fix you. try to get a hold of Vegas1369 for some advice if you want to go that route

If you read the thread accurately you'd come to the conclusion that one guy is like this. The rest are quite the opposite.

[Crowe Diddly]

To answer your other question, I have not yet tried meditation. To be honest, meditation is kinda not really "me", but I'm willing to try anything harmless to get rid of all of this. So I might try it at some point.

Terrible answer. Meditation isnt you? Well, neither is xanax, throat lumps, and losing 30+ lbs almost overnight, amirite? You are you. Meditation is simple, you can do it almost anywhere, there are zero bad effects, and the only thing in the way is your ego.

This isnt the 80s still. Nobody is gonna call you a fag if you do meditation or yoga. Most top athletes do some form of both. There are tons of benefits, no side effects, and you can use an app to help you if you want, but its fuckin dumb and counterproductive to stay away from it because it isnt "you."

[DJ_Chaps]

JESUS WHAT A TRAINWRECK THREAD. MY ANON SOURCE WAS RIGHT. THIS IS A PATHETIC READ.



SMOKE A GOD DAMNED SPLIFF DRUFF.

[Pooh]

To answer your other question, I have not yet tried meditation. To be honest, meditation is kinda not really "me", but I'm willing to try anything harmless to get rid of all of this. So I might try it at some point.

Terrible answer. Meditation isnt you? Well, neither is xanax, throat lumps, and losing 30+ lbs almost overnight, amirite? You are you. Meditation is simple, you can do it almost anywhere, there are zero bad effects, and the only thing in the way is your ego.

This isnt the 80s still. Nobody is gonna call you a fag if you do meditation or yoga. Most top athletes do some form of both. There are tons of benefits, no side effects, and you can use an app to help you if you want, but its fuckin dumb and counterproductive to stay away from it because it isnt "you."

Yeah I'm going to start trying to meditate a little myself here pretty soon. Headspace and calm apps actually. Doing it more for my golf game than anything else.

[Kuntmissioner]

[Dan Druff]

The LPR boards are full of angry people who were told for years by their doctors that their symptoms were "all in their head", only to find out they had a hiatal hernia or something else very real causing their issues.

I have two separate problems which are also somewhat linked. I will not believe a doctor who barely looks at me and says, "It's just anxiety" over my own experiences, my own extensive research, and my own gut feeling on the matter.

FYI, LPR is a very real thing, and it's usually not just an "in your head" soft of malady. There is a psychological element to it (which I agree I have), but that is in addition to the physical issues, not in place of them.

Yet you refuse to get an endoscopy to rule this out because you read on the internet it could make it worse. Can't make this shit up. You're a nut bag. With all due respect. You're going to have your hot water burn baby moment very soon at this rate and there's no coming back from that one.

I don't just take whatever invasive test a doctor asks for like a dumb idiot.

It's one thing to scare yourself with internet horror stories.

It's another to educate yourself with facts, risk factors, and benefits.

Here are the FACTS with endoscopies as they relate to LPR:

1) It is not uncommon for an endoscopy to bring on GERD when done for someone with just LPR.

2) Endoscopies are not a preferred diagnostic tool for LPR because they don't tell you much. They only rule things out, which other less invasive tests can do (such as the barium swallow).

3) There are other complications from endoscopies possible, including problems from the general anesthesia necessary for it.

If the endoscopy would provide the answer for my LPR, 100% I would throw caution to the wind and do it.

However, it would offer little benefit that other tests couldn't provide anwyay.

Here the risks outweigh the benefits.

It's easy to sit on the sidelines like a dumbass and comment on other people's medical conditions like you know better. Of course it's easy to just tell someone to go get an endoscopy if you don't have to live with the consequences of something getting fucked up further.

[Dan Druff]

You know, I'm starting to get pissed off here.

I've spent over 100 hours researching everything related to both LPR and anxiety (especially LPR).

I'm not talking about reading WebMD like a paranoid retard.

I'm talking about reading so many pieces of information from so many sources, including medical journals and papers.

This is not an easy thing to fix. There is little medical consensus when it comes to LPR. There's a shitload of unknowns here.

LPR has had very little research, partially because it's not life threatening, so it's not a sexy thing to solve, despite it being relatively common (even Obama suffered/suffers from it).

If I just listened to doctors and ignored the internet, I would be harming myself on high dosage PPIs (Nexium/Prilosec) which have been shown in clinical studies to be no more effective than placebo for curing LPR, and which have been implicated in all kinds of short and long term complications when taken for more than 2 weeks.

I would be getting invasive tests like endoscopies with risks and little benefit, other than eliminating conditions which could be eliminated with other tests.

I would not be getting a useful but usually overlooked test (videostroboscopy).

I would not have Gaviscon Advance, a UK medication shown to have the best shot at reducing or curing LPR symptoms.

I might be considering surgeries with all kinds of complications and no reliable record in curing LPR.

So please spare me your "stop being a WebMD paranoid nutcase" or "stop being a hypochondriac".

What I have is real, and what I have is not easy to solve.

I am providing the updates out here so the members of this forum, as well as radio listeners, can understand what I'm going through, and the steps I'm taking to try to solve all of this.

I'm also discussing it out here so people can give reasonable suggestions, or provide information I might have missed. Some of this information has been helpful, and I thank those who are responding to this thread in a serious and non-judgmental fashion.

Do me a favor and don't write shit here just to piss me off or mock me for this. It's far more difficult and complex than you might think.

[Dan Druff]

split this will be happy to know that I am getting an abdominal CT scan with contrast on Thursday.

I have to drink a 15 ounce bottle of barium on Wednesday night. Fun stuff.

Also have to drink about 8 ounces on Thursday morning.

The dumbass scheduler told me I would have to do a no-water fast, but it turns out that I can drink water (which I only found out because I called today to get more details about the test itself). In fact, showing up thirsty/dehydrated is actually a bad thing for this test.

Being able to drink water beforehand makes it way way easier.

Not thrilled about the radiation from the CT, but apparently it's unlikely to be of much long term danger, since it will only be the 2nd one I have in my life, plus CT radiation is more dangerous in females than males due to not having to be concerned about ovarian cancer.

Anyway, while this CT is unlikely to give answers for the LPR/anxiety, it will answer some other unrelated outside concerns, due to some abnormal blood test & ultrasound results last month.