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For what it is worth I agree that the NFL has every right to tell them they can’t kneel. They own the platform and they don’t want players using their platform for civil rights activism. There is no argument there from me. If someone came into our office everyday and wore a “fuck this shit” t shirt I can tell them not to wear that while representing our company or they can leave. At the same time I can’t force them to stand up and pray with me, or pledge allegiance to the company every morning.

I agree that it is the NFL’s right to decide on whether they want to allow protests during their airtime, what I disagree with is all the extra bullshit you spew about patriotism and them saying fuck you to America.... it’s really easy for you to be ok with the way things are because you’re a middle aged white man. You haven’t had to deal with anywhere near what people of color and other minorities have had to deal with.

I don’t appreciate the “know your place n-words,” undertone that many supporters of the rule have. I also hate that many middle aged white man, as yourself, don’t appreciate what many blacks and Hispanics have had to deal with in this country. I agree with their right to protest, but I agree that if the owners decide it’s not ok, then that’s fine, they’re not entitled to anything from the people who pay their salaries.

With that said please cut the patriotic bullshit out. They are just as patriotic as people on the other side, they just wish things were different. Martin Luther King didn’t help create change by doing what old white men told him to do or simply agree when they told him to know his place
You are putting words in my mouth and then arguing with those words.

I don't understand it.

I'm not arguing this from the standpoint of patriotism.

My one statement about patriotism was that the form of protest was a fuck you to patriotic Americans (notice I said patriotic, not conservative). And it is.

Not because it's coming from the left, but because it's protesting the anthem of the country.

Protesting Trump isn't unpatriotic. Protesting a war isn't unpatriotic. Protesting a policy isn't unpatriotic.

Protesting the entire country itself -- which is what they're doing by kneeling during the anthem -- is indeed unpatriotic and a slap in the face to all NFL fans who love this country.


Anyway, even if you disagree with the above, that's just a side statement of mine. I don't like the message they're putting out -- basically "Fuck America".

My main point is that the NFL has a right to tell them to stop, and that it isn't a case of "forced patriotism" or suppression of the black protest when the NFL does this.
It’s not a fuck you to America or the entire country. It’s a slap to the face to the injustice that they as a people are suffering through. They are protesting for the numerous unarmed black men who are being shot by police and the unfair treatment of people of color in this judicial system. They love this country just as much as anyone else. If Jewish people were being treated unfairly or inproportinatly killed by police or given longer jail sentences, you’d want to protest also.