fultz put up a triple-double tonight.
welcome lebron!
fultz put up a triple-double tonight.
welcome lebron!
A Philly team with Lebron, Simmons and Embiid needs 3 and D guys, not another playmaking PG. Unless Fultz is ok being relegated to that role (and effective in it) might need to flip him for a more complimentary piece.
He could possibly also do the Marcus Smart 6th man playmaker role for a couple years I guess too.
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I’m really curious to see how Miami defends Simmons now that they have the opportunity to gameplan. I’ve been impressed with his ability to get to the rim despite teams conceding him an open shot. That used to happen to Lebron all the time when he was young and couldn’t shoot. Simmons is a really cerebral player, and Miami doesn’t have enough talent to beat Philly, but it will be an interesting matchup as the Heat are well-coached and Embiid sounds like he isn’t quite ready.
out for game 1Originally Posted by BCR
out for game 1
Yeah, I had saw that. It’s interesting this year because so much of what to expect is based around a few guys coming back, but simply coming back isn’t enough. Like if Curry comes back close to 100% eventually, they’ll walk, but at 60%, it’s wide open. Same goes for Embiid. They’ve put together an impressive run during his absence, but a third of the teams were tanking and others mailing it in. He comes back 100% and they’re a legit threat. If not, it wouldn’t shock me to see them fold.
Miami is like 3.5-4:1 to win that series...seems like its not that terrible of a price given embiid will miss game 1 and you know spo will throw a lotta shit at the young guys...
Yeah, I had saw that. It’s interesting this year because so much of what to expect is based around a few guys coming back, but simply coming back isn’t enough. Like if Curry comes back close to 100% eventually, they’ll walk, but at 60%, it’s wide open. Same goes for Embiid. They’ve put together an impressive run during his absence, but a third of the teams were tanking and others mailing it in. He comes back 100% and they’re a legit threat. If not, it wouldn’t shock me to see them fold.
You may well be correct. I am a pacers fan but don't have a lot invested in this season because I never expected them to go anywhere. I feel bad that LeBron is going to break Ohio's heart again. What's the mood there, will the pain and anger be less when he leaves because he finally got you a championship?
Everyone is pretty resigned to him leaving. I’m sure there will be a segment that is still angry, but nothing compared to last go around. The championship helps a lot, but also, he’ll be 34 next year, and in reality, 11 seasons of the worlds best player on your team is pretty much all you can ever ask for. Also, for as beautiful of a player as he is, he’s also a pain in the ass to a degree. It’s a dysfunctional organization in many ways, but he’s so meddlesome, that it’s hard to tell how many moves by FO are his decisions or simply bad decisions. Amazing player, but seeing a Philly blow it up and build a monster, I think most would be down for a total rebuild. Unfortunately, I don’t see the FO acumen there to do it well. Reality is that if he leaves, I’d be shocked to see them win another title in my lifetime. Even if he stays, it will be difficult unless he signs on for remainder of career and recruits other star, but that doesn’t seem very plausible. He knows his years are numbered and if he planned on staying, he would have done it this past offseason.
cavs should take a lesson from the sixers and trade literally every player on the roster for picks including clarkson and nance. the only player they should hold on to is zizic cause they can control him cheaply for years
Everyone is pretty resigned to him leaving. I’m sure there will be a segment that is still angry, but nothing compared to last go around. The championship helps a lot, but also, he’ll be 34 next year, and in reality, 11 seasons of the worlds best player on your team is pretty much all you can ever ask for. Also, for as beautiful of a player as he is, he’s also a pain in the ass to a degree. It’s a dysfunctional organization in many ways, but he’s so meddlesome, that it’s hard to tell how many moves by FO are his decisions or simply bad decisions. Amazing player, but seeing a Philly blow it up and build a monster, I think most would be down for a total rebuild. Unfortunately, I don’t see the FO acumen there to do it well. Reality is that if he leaves, I’d be shocked to see them win another title in my lifetime. Even if he stays, it will be difficult unless he signs on for remainder of career and recruits other star, but that doesn’t seem very plausible. He knows his years are numbered and if he planned on staying, he would have done it this past offseason.
I honestly think gilberts ego is too big to let that happen...cavs should take a lesson from the sixers and trade literally every player on the roster for picks including clarkson and nance. the only player they should hold on to is zizic cause they can control him cheaply for years
cavs should take a lesson from the sixers and trade literally every player on the roster for picks including clarkson and nance. the only player they should hold on to is zizic cause they can control him cheaply for years
They really should. They still drew really well even once Lebron left. It’s Cleveland. We’re used to losing. The amazing part is Philly didn’t really even exceed expectations on their picks. They missed on Okafor, Noel, and MCW, (Fultz still a ?), but besides Okafor, they cut their losses and got a return on misses.
Being under the cap, they also facilitated and picked up picks for teams in cap hell. Gilbert though is an egomaniac. He’s not as bad an owner as the media portrays, because he at least will pay $100 million in luxury tax, but I don’t think he has the stomach for a Sixers-level rebuild. That takes true commitment, and even last year, there were questions it was a failed experiment.
If he sold team and the new owner hired Hinkie assuming Lebron leaves, I’d fully embrace sucking for 5 years. Only problem is at this point ‘19 draft looks really weak, and knowing the Cavs, they’d abandon it all after a year.
If you guys thought it got ugly when Kobe's body broke down and he couldn't accept it, wait until it happens to Lebron.
The only way Lebron's career won't end in 1-2 seasons of embarrassing disaster is if he remains dominant through like age 40, and then just voluntarily decides to hang it up rather than play in his 40s and rapidly decline.
And I guess that's possible, seeing how good he still is at 33.
By all accounts it appears noone like Kobe and he wasn't a very good teammate. I think Lebron's decline will be more like Duncan's where he is still able to recruit and effectively play with very good players to play with him (who will eventually overtake him) as his skills decline and remain on competitive teams until the end.
As opposed to Kobe's situation of being diminished while the highest paid player in the league on a team with no hope of competing or putting pieces around him to remain competitive.
Disagree.By all accounts it appears noone like Kobe and he wasn't a very good teammate. I think Lebron's decline will be more like Duncan's where he is still able to recruit and effectively play with very good players to play with him (who will eventually overtake him) as his skills decline and remain on competitive teams until the end.
As opposed to Kobe's situation of being diminished while the highest paid player in the league on a team with no hope of competing or putting pieces around him to remain competitive.
I mean, I agree that Kobe was selfish and not a good teammate, but Lebron has a HUGE ego (possibly even bigger than Kobe's), and that will be his undoing in his later years if he no longer has star capability.
Tim Duncan was the opposite. Egoless and mild-mannered, and let himself transition out from team superstar to role player.
Can you see Lebron playing second fiddle to anyone else on the team, even in 7 years? I can't.
As I said, the only hope of not seeing late-career failseasons from Lebron is if he remains star-quality through about age 40, and then he decides he's had enough and wants to go out on top.
Anyway, one nice thing about MLB unders is that you can take it on the chin in the top of the 1st, and then a few scoreless innings brings your total back on pace. It's a lot harder for an under to cover in the NBA where you have a horrible 1Q. Clocked game vs. clockless, obv. Of course, it works the other way, too, where you can never be sure you've got it until the game is over.
So now it's the top of the 4th and still 3-0, and now we're pretty much even-money now to cover again. It's a far better sign to have the runs score via multiple-run HR than a series of hits and walks. Matz has settled down, and Roark hasn't allowed a hit.
Never mind. Roark shitting the bed, and the Washington defense blew an easy double play, so now it's 3-2 in bottom 4.
Okay, time to stop cluttering the thread and just hope this ends up okay. Still looking at the SF game.
I dunno. Lebron voluntarily joined forces with another high usage ball dominant superstar (and a 3rd All Star who was much less usage dependent) when they were both at the height of their powers during The Decision. It so happened that Wade really only had 1 year with Lebron as a superstar before he started fading, but neither Lebron or Wade knew that was going to happen.Disagree.
I mean, I agree that Kobe was selfish and not a good teammate, but Lebron has a HUGE ego (possibly even bigger than Kobe's), and that will be his undoing in his later years if he no longer has star capability.
Tim Duncan was the opposite. Egoless and mild-mannered, and let himself transition out from team superstar to role player.
Can you see Lebron playing second fiddle to anyone else on the team, even in 7 years? I can't.
As I said, the only hope of not seeing late-career failseasons from Lebron is if he remains star-quality through about age 40, and then he decides he's had enough and wants to go out on top.
Kobe would never in a million years have joined voluntarily paired up with another superstar high ball usage guard at the height of his powers. I can see a fading Lebron end up on a strong team with up and comers (e.g. Philadelphia) and slowly transition control of the team to them. Time will tell I suppose.
This is a really weird take druff. How much of lebron do you even watch? He has already been in two situations where he played part time second fiddle to another star and has three titles to show for it. Watching him now in this game 2 he doesnt exactly look thrilled to have to be doing everything for this weak cavs team to avoid having to play 6 or 7 games in the first two rounds.
He seems like the perfect candidate to take on the duncan/late career kareem role.
Also is anyone else taking notice if oladipo? Dude is ridiculously good.
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