John Bolton's the National Security Adviser smh
Larry Wilkerson says we're on a path to war w Iran and he has friends in the Pentagon.
A week ago Jimmy Carter's out warning of a potential nuclear war.
Lets go back to 11-97 and listen to another one of Nostradamus's prophetic warnings about the looming war w Iraq. Umm yea he pretty much predicts the Sept 11 attacks. It's amazing how absolutely certain he was about a future war in Iraq.
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They should be angry with Britain and the Zionist who convinced Balfour and others to establish Israel. They should also be angry with the League of Nations, the United Nations, and the USA for all those vetoes. And of course they should be angry at the Israelis for continuing to abuse their rights.Originally Posted by verminaard
They should be angry. Their target is just all screwed up. They should be angry at Hamas and Iran and PLO and the Arab and European politicians who have been using them as pawns in geopolitical struggles instead of just letting them relocate and move on with their lives. People have been getting displaced since the start of time. It has happened to various Jewish populations tons of times over the last 2000 years. It has happened thousands of times to thousands of different people.
This is probable the first time the entire world has conspired to keep a displaced population in refugee camps on the border of a hostile enemy just to use them as bullet fodder for geopolitical reasons. It is sickening the way the entire world, mainly the Muslim world, has treated the Palestinians these last 75 years. There will never be any return and noone genuinely thinks there ever will. They are just being kept there as a buffer force to fight Israel. Using women and children as a buffer force is truly sickening, and the entire world should be ashamed, especially the powers that have been controlling the Palestinians the last 80 years.
Better to be angry with those responsible then those who are a bi-product and not the root cause.
I don't think you quite understand. The Palestinians don't want to leave, to many these camps are the only home they know and the majority were born here.
I'll admit I don't quite grasp the Muslim or Arab mentality, but I do try very hard to put myself in their shoes. They wrongly or rightly view Israel as illegitimate, and accepting refugees and giving them nationality legitimatizes Israel, something they refuse to accept.
I do understand where you are coming from I think, and I agree in a sense that it would be better to relocate them somewhere they can contribute to society and live in peace, but they don't want this. They are fighting for their very existence, and you cannot take away a mans right to suffer for a cause they believe is righteous, less you kill them.
I do not think the world has conspired to do this, I think the toothless tiger called the United Nations is mostly responsible. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Thousands of years ago this would not have happened, those who were displaced nearby would either be forcibly assimilated, murdered, or they would run away.
Think you're wrong, I think it's likely they will return. Perhaps not in the near future but one of these days Israel will not be powerful, and the USA is losing power and influence very quickly.
Israel is playing the short game, they are seeding their future destruction with this uncompromising violent behavior.
This is simply the way the world works, power is fleeting and impossible to hold forever.
Are you being facetious or do you genuinely accept that Israel has treated the Palestinians horribly?
How about we give Israel some land ten times the size of Israel instead? I think this would be a fairer solution. But of course the Zionists were offered lands in South America and Africa in the beginning, they didn't want it though.
Again, they don't want to leave! Are you suggesting we forcibly remove them against their will? Displace the displaced?
It's actually a pretty good strategy. Annoy the fuck out of those who took your lands, refuse to leave while garnishing sympathy from the rest of the world.
The Palestinians don't want to leave, they'd rather die... these Arabs are stubborn righteous pricks.
https://twitter.com/twt/status/980580929231114242
Indeed, could you imagine the outrage.
We're heading towards a new and very dangerous cold war over the poisoning of some traitor and his daughter.
This insane double standard demonstrates the incredible power gained from total control of the MSM.
Can the Palestinians tap out and get help in relocating at any time? I know what Dershowitz will say but what's the truth. It's pretty clear Israel likes to try out new weapons on the Palestinians. People don't understand that the Palestinians and i'm pretty sure all non Jews are really really viewed as animals. They literally really believe it, yea lets support Israel, fuck that shit.It's actually a pretty good strategy. Annoy the fuck out of those who took your lands, refuse to leave while garnishing sympathy from the rest of the world.
The Palestinians don't want to leave, they'd rather die... these Arabs are stubborn righteous pricks.
Well tbh all of us support Israel and the next five generations of our families will support Israel by paying on the debt whether they like it or not, i'm gonna throw up....
The Rabbi that always preached this difference of Jews and non Jews is the one who Kushner visited on election eve. I find it offensive
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Might as well scrap the UN right now, it's about as useful as tits on a bull.
No evidence, no due process... and they're punishing the guilty already.
I thought this was a reasonable article on the matter.
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/u...25736?mode=amp
If the Palestinians as a whole genuinely wanted to leave these camps, they wouldn't exist. But as far as they're concerned the only place they are going is home.Can the Palestinians tap out and get help in relocating at any time? I know what Dershowitz will say but what's the truth. It's pretty clear Israel likes to try out new weapons on the Palestinians. People don't understand that the Palestinians and i'm pretty sure all non Jews are really really viewed as animals. They literally really believe it, yea lets support Israel, fuck that shit.
It's actually a pretty good strategy. Annoy the fuck out of those who took your lands, refuse to leave while garnishing sympathy from the rest of the world.
The Palestinians don't want to leave, they'd rather die... these Arabs are stubborn righteous pricks.
Well tbh all of us support Israel and the next five generations of our families will support Israel by paying on the debt whether they like it or not, i'm gonna throw up....
The Rabbi that always preached this difference of Jews and non Jews is the one who Kushner visited on election eve. I find it offensive
The UN should be ashamed of themselves. What's the point of having the UN when certain privileged countries have a right to veto?
They are a toothless tiger and merely playing along with the status quo does much more harm then good.
Personally, I've never had a bad experience with any Jews. Arabs on the other hand I've had a few issues, Lebanese in particular.
If you consider the Lebanese to be Arabic, Phoenicians, Levantine Arabic, whatever.
Jewish girls are the nut low and high, respectful and sweet, and dynamite in the sack... but perhaps I've been lucky.
Stop it with the people just want to go home nonsense. Do you want to go home to wherever in England you were from? No.If the Palestinians as a whole genuinely wanted to leave these camps, they wouldn't exist. But as far as they're concerned the only place they are going is home.
The UN should be ashamed of themselves. What's the point of having the UN when certain privileged countries have a right to veto?
They are a toothless tiger and merely playing along with the status quo does much more harm then good.
Personally, I've never had a bad experience with any Jews. Arabs on the other hand I've had a few issues, Lebanese in particular.
If you consider the Lebanese to be Arabic, Phoenicians, Levantine Arabic, whatever.
Jewish girls are the nut low and high, respectful and sweet, and dynamite in the sack... but perhaps I've been lucky.
Do any of the 400 million people in Australia and the US that emigrated from somewhere else under various degrees of duress want to go home to wherever they came from? No. People are very happy moving on with their lives if given the chance. Noone is giving the Palestinians a chance to move on. They are being kept as prisoners by their own government and the world at large to act as a buffer to interfere with Israel. The world should be ashamed.
The UN is completely useless. The only point of the UN is to allow relatives of leaders of corrupt nations to come to New York City free of charge and have sex with trafficked underage prostitutes and then claim diplomatic immunity if they get caught doing this or any other of the various crimes they are committing here.
A lot of Palestinians live here. They are nice, normal people. Most people are at the individual level. I am sure they would be just fine if given the chance to move on with their lives. Every other population that has emigrated from one place to another (under various levels of duress) has done just fine. Australia is obviously the most extreme example as it was a penal colony of people given no choice at all. I don't see a mass refugee camp of Austalians outside London demanding right of return.
But Hamas and Iran and the rest of the Muslim world would never let the Palestinians move on, because they are too useful as front line troops in the war to counteract Israel influence in the region.
The whole right or return narrative is complete bullshit and you are completely blue pilled if you believe any of it. This is straight geo politics.
You draw tenuous parallels at best. My parents chose to come here and I consider Australia my home. I can return to Great Britain whenever I desire.Stop it with the people just want to go home nonsense. Do you want to go home to wherever in England you were from? No.
If the Palestinians as a whole genuinely wanted to leave these camps, they wouldn't exist. But as far as they're concerned the only place they are going is home.
The UN should be ashamed of themselves. What's the point of having the UN when certain privileged countries have a right to veto?
They are a toothless tiger and merely playing along with the status quo does much more harm then good.
Personally, I've never had a bad experience with any Jews. Arabs on the other hand I've had a few issues, Lebanese in particular.
If you consider the Lebanese to be Arabic, Phoenicians, Levantine Arabic, whatever.
Jewish girls are the nut low and high, respectful and sweet, and dynamite in the sack... but perhaps I've been lucky.
Do any of the 400 million people in Australia and the US that emigrated from somewhere else under various degrees of duress want to go home to wherever they came from? No. People are very happy moving on with their lives if given the chance. Noone is giving the Palestinians a chance to move on. They are being kept as prisoners by their own government and the world at large to act as a buffer to interfere with Israel. The world should be ashamed.
The UN is completely useless. The only point of the UN is to allow relatives of leaders of corrupt nations to come to New York City free of charge and have sex with trafficked underage prostitutes and then claim diplomatic immunity if they get caught doing this or any other of the various crimes they are committing here.
Let me approach this from a different perspective, I'm sure the fantasy will appeal to you.
Let's say that tomorrow some all powerful extraterrestrial organisation decided that the United States was to be shared with Africans, who arrive in their millions against your will and are gifted substantial amounts of your land on the pretext it was to be equally shared in harmony.
If they then decide they want it all, and over the years they take it away from you and your countrymen piece by piece, while they murder and abuse whoever they please.
Let's also assume that fighting them is not possible as they are stronger then you, and of course they are supported by aliens from another galaxy with far more advanced weaponry. They also possess the ability to make your own weapons useless, so any chance of defeating these fine upstanding chosen ones is impossible.
You'd just leave and try to live in a land, far, far away? You wouldn't simply flee to Mexico or Canada if this was a safe haven? Let's also assume that Rump has built a special wall that makes Mexico and Canada somewhat immune to these aliens special powers.
Underage, trafficked prostitutes hey?
Pardon me, I didn't realize you had such a complete grasp on what the UN is all about. *sarcastic smile*
I hear Norway is nice.
Live long and prosper.
Are you describing what white people did to the native Aborigines? I admit I don't know Australian history that well, but I actually imagine it was a lot worse than that. Probably more in line with what we do to the American Indians, where we just killed most of them, took all the good land, and forcefully relocated the few survivors to the worst land in pretty much the whole country. Strangely, no-one here seems to have much of a problem living on all the land stolen from the Indians. Certainly not offering any right of return. I imagine Australia is much the same. I don't see too much news about white people offering to give back the good land there either.You draw tenuous parallels at best. My parents chose to come here and I consider Australia my home. I can return to Great Britain whenever I desire.
Let me approach this from a different perspective, I'm sure the fantasy will appeal to you.
Let's say that tomorrow some all powerful extraterrestrial organisation decided that the United States was to be shared with Africans, who arrive in their millions against your will and are gifted substantial amounts of your land on the pretext it was to be equally shared in harmony.
If they then decide they want it all, and over the years they take it away from you and your countrymen piece by piece, while they murder and abuse whoever they please.
Let's also assume that fighting them is not possible as they are stronger then you, and of course they are supported by aliens from another galaxy with far more advanced weaponry. They also possess the ability to make your own weapons useless, so any chance of defeating these fine upstanding chosen ones is impossible.
You'd just leave and try to live in a land, far, far away? You wouldn't simply flee to Mexico or Canada if this was a safe haven? Let's also assume that Rump has built a special wall that makes Mexico and Canada somewhat immune to these aliens special powers.
Underage, trafficked prostitutes hey?
Pardon me, I didn't realize you had such a complete grasp on what the UN is all about. *sarcastic smile*
I hear Norway is nice.
Live long and prosper.
I get it. Why inconvenience yourself at all, when you can just project your guilt onto others thousands of miles away and ameliorate your guilt through them.
You contradict yourself again dear Sir, with your tenuous parallels.Are you describing what white people did to the native Aborigines? I admit I don't know Australian history that well, but I actually imagine it was a lot worse than that. Probably more in line with what we do to the American Indians, where we just killed most of them, took all the good land, and forcefully relocated the few survivors to the worst land in pretty much the whole country. Strangely, no-one here seems to have much of a problem living on all the land stolen from the Indians. Certainly not offering any right of return. I imagine Australia is much the same. I don't see too much news about white people offering to give back the good land there either.
You draw tenuous parallels at best. My parents chose to come here and I consider Australia my home. I can return to Great Britain whenever I desire.
Let me approach this from a different perspective, I'm sure the fantasy will appeal to you.
Let's say that tomorrow some all powerful extraterrestrial organisation decided that the United States was to be shared with Africans, who arrive in their millions against your will and are gifted substantial amounts of your land on the pretext it was to be equally shared in harmony.
If they then decide they want it all, and over the years they take it away from you and your countrymen piece by piece, while they murder and abuse whoever they please.
Let's also assume that fighting them is not possible as they are stronger then you, and of course they are supported by aliens from another galaxy with far more advanced weaponry. They also possess the ability to make your own weapons useless, so any chance of defeating these fine upstanding chosen ones is impossible.
You'd just leave and try to live in a land, far, far away? You wouldn't simply flee to Mexico or Canada if this was a safe haven? Let's also assume that Rump has built a special wall that makes Mexico and Canada somewhat immune to these aliens special powers.
Underage, trafficked prostitutes hey?
Pardon me, I didn't realize you had such a complete grasp on what the UN is all about. *sarcastic smile*
I hear Norway is nice.
Live long and prosper.
I get it. Why inconvenience yourself at all, when you can just project your guilt onto others thousands of miles away and ameliorate your guilt through them.
Your native Americans live in the country they consider to be home, and they in fact now have more rights then yourself. I will not argue they were abused, but they appear to be reasonably content at present. Perhaps in the future they might have even more rights and wealth from the special privileges they deserve and enjoy.
Perhaps moving them all to New Zealand would have been a better approach.
As far as the Israeli response to the demonstrations goes, I really dunno if that is the best response. How should a small sovereign nation surrounded by enemies respond when a horde of lightly armed hostile protesters starts marching on your border? I don't really know. But I do know a large % of the countries that signed the UN proposal would act a lot more aggressively and harsher. You think countries like Russia or China or Iran would put up with that shit? LOL. The demonstrations and camps would have been completely disbanded using whatever force was necessary and the protesters killed, jailed or run off immediately.
What crack are you smoking? The Native Americans in the US are probably the most dispossessed, poorest, miserable population here. Moreso than the blacks, our media just ignores it. Most of them live in hopeless squalor on welfare in reservations which are basically just refugee camps. If any of them demanded to go back to their ancestral homelands (which in many cases is some of the best real estate in the country) they would be laughed at and marched straight back to their reservations.You contradict yourself again dear Sir, with your tenuous parallels.
Your native Americans live in the country they consider to be home, and they in fact now have more rights then yourself. I will not argue they were abused, but they appear to be reasonably content at present. Perhaps in the future they might have even more rights and wealth from the special privileges they deserve and enjoy.
Perhaps moving them all to New Zealand would have been a better approach.
The casinos actually make things worse. A small cabal of elites keep most of the $$, and the rest of the population just lives in squalor and welfare. It is basically what will happen to all of us if UBI becomes a reality.
If this is true (and it probably is to an extent) Israel should immediately forcefully march the Palestinians all the way to the Jordan border and shoot anyone that tries to cross back. Why should Israel live with a hostile enemy this close that refuses to compromise at all when they have the means to neutralize this threat? Sounds to me like you are making a persuasive argument for why Israel should be much harsher than it is and should have been a long time ago. Maybe Israel's fatal flaw is it is too kind and compassionate.They should be angry with Britain and the Zionist who convinced Balfour and others to establish Israel. They should also be angry with the League of Nations, the United Nations, and the USA for all those vetoes. And of course they should be angry at the Israelis for continuing to abuse their rights.
Better to be angry with those responsible then those who are a bi-product and not the root cause.
I don't think you quite understand. The Palestinians don't want to leave, to many these camps are the only home they know and the majority were born here.
I'll admit I don't quite grasp the Muslim or Arab mentality, but I do try very hard to put myself in their shoes. They wrongly or rightly view Israel as illegitimate, and accepting refugees and giving them nationality legitimatizes Israel, something they refuse to accept.
I do understand where you are coming from I think, and I agree in a sense that it would be better to relocate them somewhere they can contribute to society and live in peace, but they don't want this. They are fighting for their very existence, and you cannot take away a mans right to suffer for a cause they believe is righteous, less you kill them.
I do not think the world has conspired to do this, I think the toothless tiger called the United Nations is mostly responsible. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
Thousands of years ago this would not have happened, those who were displaced nearby would either be forcibly assimilated, murdered, or they would run away.
Think you're wrong, I think it's likely they will return. Perhaps not in the near future but one of these days Israel will not be powerful, and the USA is losing power and influence very quickly.
Israel is playing the short game, they are seeding their future destruction with this uncompromising violent behavior.
This is simply the way the world works, power is fleeting and impossible to hold forever.
Also, I don't think Israel is ever going to give up. I think they have dug in for good. They have nukes and a ton of other advanced weaponry they are ready to use. I think the world ends in nuclear war if anyone ever seriously attacks Israel. I am not exaggerating at all. I think this is exactly what will happen. Your description of what would happen is probably true in a past age. But the weaponry is so strong now, it is a complete game changer.
My understanding is Israel was actually completely ready and willing to using nukes in one of the earlier wars, I think the 1967 one, and the only reason they didn't was because they were so successfully using conventional weapons they weren't really threatened.
You think the Palestinian mentality is fatalistic. The Israeli one is much worse. They are the remnants of a population that has spent the last 2000 years as a displaced diaspora, survived a mostly successful attempt to exterminate them 70 years ago, and are finally are back "home." Then throw in all the religious nonsense that a lot of people believe on top of all that. For good or bad, Israel is here to stay and any attempt to change this will probably be the end of the world. That is the reality of the situation.
At this point no-one but complete religious fanatics really envisions removing Israel. The Palestinians are just being used as fodder in geopolitical games.
Should have sent them to another country and be done with them hey?What crack are you smoking? The Native Americans in the US are probably the most dispossessed, poorest, miserable population here. Moreso than the blacks, our media just ignores it. Most of them live in hopeless squalor on welfare in reservations which are basically just refugee camps. If any of them demanded to go back to their ancestral homelands (which in many cases is some of the best real estate in the country) they would be laughed at and marched straight back to their reservations.
The casinos actually make things worse. A small cabal of elites keep most of the $$, and the rest of the population just lives in squalor and welfare. It is basically what will happen to all of us if UBI becomes a reality.
Forcing them to live in reservations is just cruel, they should have moved on and just got on with their lives.
You imagine wrong, you need to educate yourself dear man.Are you describing what white people did to the native Aborigines? I admit I don't know Australian history that well, but I actually imagine it was a lot worse than that. Probably more in line with what we do to the American Indians, where we just killed most of them, took all the good land, and forcefully relocated the few survivors to the worst land in pretty much the whole country. Strangely, no-one here seems to have much of a problem living on all the land stolen from the Indians. Certainly not offering any right of return. I imagine Australia is much the same. I don't see too much news about white people offering to give back the good land there either.
You draw tenuous parallels at best. My parents chose to come here and I consider Australia my home. I can return to Great Britain whenever I desire.
Let me approach this from a different perspective, I'm sure the fantasy will appeal to you.
Let's say that tomorrow some all powerful extraterrestrial organisation decided that the United States was to be shared with Africans, who arrive in their millions against your will and are gifted substantial amounts of your land on the pretext it was to be equally shared in harmony.
If they then decide they want it all, and over the years they take it away from you and your countrymen piece by piece, while they murder and abuse whoever they please.
Let's also assume that fighting them is not possible as they are stronger then you, and of course they are supported by aliens from another galaxy with far more advanced weaponry. They also possess the ability to make your own weapons useless, so any chance of defeating these fine upstanding chosen ones is impossible.
You'd just leave and try to live in a land, far, far away? You wouldn't simply flee to Mexico or Canada if this was a safe haven? Let's also assume that Rump has built a special wall that makes Mexico and Canada somewhat immune to these aliens special powers.
Underage, trafficked prostitutes hey?
Pardon me, I didn't realize you had such a complete grasp on what the UN is all about. *sarcastic smile*
I hear Norway is nice.
Live long and prosper.
I get it. Why inconvenience yourself at all, when you can just project your guilt onto others thousands of miles away and ameliorate your guilt through them.
The Aboriginal people of Australia have several hundred thousand square kilometers of land, about 10% of the country at last count and increasing.
They have special rights and special laws, in the future they will have even more land and rights. They build casinos and receive royalties from activities like mining. Kinda similar to your own indigenous natives.
It's not the perfect solution, but at least they live in the country they consider home... not that this means anything to you.
Like I said, no-one in the US has any right to claim any moral high ground. I certainly don't. I seriously doubt any white person in Australia does either.Should have sent them to another country and be done with them hey?
Forcing them to live in reservations is just cruel, they should have moved on and just got on with their lives.
I say take care of the wrongs in your own house first before you start telling people how to arrange their house. And if you aren't willing to do that shut up.
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