Active Shooter, Parkland, FL High School

[Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe]

Contrary to what sonatine is trying to say, the constitution GUARANTEES the right for civilians to own guns in the USA and that's the way it will remain. There are like half a billion guns already in the hands of civilians in USA, good fucking luck this isn't Australia. Literally not gonna go away. If you are scared of being shot and you are American, consider moving to a place that has stricter regulations on guns like Chicago

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

holy shit it gets worse:
When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.

Nothing will happen to those guys. They were supposedly being fed info by cops in the schools security room that was on a delay. I'm sure you remember the videos of the cops giving the play by play of the shooters movements and how it couldn't makes sense for them to be in the schools security room that fast. When the cops finally went in to get him he was already at WalMart-Subway-McDonalds supposedly.



And let's say the cops really were there as it started. That could be explained with drills running that day.

Or lets say the cops really were sitting outside the school as the children got shot. That can get explained away with the drills planned for that day with guys shooting blanks. There are numerous videos of children and teachers saying they expected realistic shooting drills at some point.

[Daly]

holy shit it gets worse:
When Coral Springs police officers arrived at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, on February 14 in the midst of the school shooting crisis, many officers were surprised to find not only that Broward County Sheriff's Deputy Scot Peterson, the armed school resource officer, had not entered the building, but that three other Broward County Sheriff's deputies were also outside the school and had not entered, Coral Springs sources tell CNN. The deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles, the sources said, and not one of them had gone into the school.

Jesus this is turning into a real real bad look here.

[Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe]

i know yu guys think I'm some Rush Limbaugh asshole, but the right to own a gun is basically THE freedom in America. If you're pro-freedom you should be all about the 2nd amendment, if you don't think you should be allowed to own a gun you've been brainwashed for real

[big dick]

A.357 or a 38 sure but not guns that can saw a tree down but if I had my choice no guns would be the way i'd go.

[blake]

having just gone to war with england, the reason the founders put the right to bear arms in the constitution was because they were distrustful of government. an armed citizenry was the last line of defense. they weren't concerned that they would be victims of crime in the streets.

this line of thinking is probably outdated.

then again, i guess the holocaust wasn't that long ago

[Zap_the_Fractions_Giraffe]

they weren't concerned that they would be victims of crime in the streets.

this line of thinking is probably outdated.

hindsight is 20/20, you can't go back because there are hundreds of millions of guns in our hands already and they don't expire

[blake]

they weren't concerned that they would be victims of crime in the streets.

this line of thinking is probably outdated.

hindsight is 20/20, you can't go back because there are hundreds of millions of guns in our hands already and they don't expire

there's lots of reasons why we shouldn't ban guns but i'm not a huge believer in this one.

if you made owning a gun a federal crime punishable by a 5-year minimum sentence, 99% of guns will be voluntarily turned in

[Tellafriend]

hindsight is 20/20, you can't go back because there are hundreds of millions of guns in our hands already and they don't expire

there's lots of reasons why we shouldn't ban guns but i'm not a huge believer in this one.

if you made owning a gun a federal crime punishable by a 5-year minimum sentence, 99% of guns will be voluntarily turned in

Yet the criminals would still have theirs.

[sonatine]

there's lots of reasons why we shouldn't ban guns but i'm not a huge believer in this one.

if you made owning a gun a federal crime punishable by a 5-year minimum sentence, 99% of guns will be voluntarily turned in

Yet the criminals would still have theirs.

for a while.

[Dan Druff]

Yet the criminals would still have theirs.

for a while.

For a very, very, very long while.

Between the already illegal guns out there, plus all the guns that wouldn't be turned in upon a mandatory buyback program (there would be a high number of people claiming to have "lost" theirs, or whatever), it would take an incredibly long time to eventually find these guns and confiscate them.

And when I say a long time, I mean that if you knocked up some woman today, your great great grandkids wouldn't be in a gun free society.

[blake]

there's lots of reasons why we shouldn't ban guns but i'm not a huge believer in this one.

if you made owning a gun a federal crime punishable by a 5-year minimum sentence, 99% of guns will be voluntarily turned in

Yet the criminals would still have theirs.

the only people that would risk a 5-year mandatory minimum sentence are legit gangs who tend to shoot up each other. there would be no impulse killings, school shootings, etc. no gun crimes would be committed by "ordinary people." gang members would be incarcerated so fast that it would be ridiculous

for a while.

For a very, very, very long while.

Between the already illegal guns out there, plus all the guns that wouldn't be turned in upon a mandatory buyback program (there would be a high number of people claiming to have "lost" theirs, or whatever), it would take an incredibly long time to eventually find these guns and confiscate them.

And when I say a long time, I mean that if you knocked up some woman today, your great great grandkids wouldn't be in a gun free society.

i think you're way off on this like i said above. also i just don't get this reasoning. guns would be off the streets within a generation or two. if you thought this gun ban would eventually work -- and immediately reduce gun crimes by 99% the second the law is enacted -- why not do this now? it seems crazy when you really think about it.

[sonatine]

druff when was the last time you saw a gun in real life

[Dan Druff]

Yet the criminals would still have theirs.

the only people that would risk a 5-year mandatory minimum sentence are legit gangs who tend to shoot up each other. there would be no impulse killings, school shootings, etc. no gun crimes would be committed by "ordinary people." gang members would be incarcerated so fast that it would be ridiculous

for a while.

For a very, very, very long while.

Between the already illegal guns out there, plus all the guns that wouldn't be turned in upon a mandatory buyback program (there would be a high number of people claiming to have "lost" theirs, or whatever), it would take an incredibly long time to eventually find these guns and confiscate them.

And when I say a long time, I mean that if you knocked up some woman today, your great great grandkids wouldn't be in a gun free society.

i think you're way off on this like i said above. also i just don't get this reasoning. guns would be off the streets within a generation or two. if you thought this gun ban would eventually work -- and immediately reduce gun crimes by 99% the second the law is enacted -- why not do this now? it seems crazy when you really think about it.

I don't think gun crimes would reduce at all when enacted.

I think it would become a tradeoff of fewer spur-of-the-moment gun crimes (such as the angry boyfriend/husband shooting his wife/girlfriend), but we'd see a rise in premeditated crime where the criminal had access to illegal guns and knew the business owner or homeowner could no longer defend himself.

I would feel very uncomfortable with this situation -- much moreso than when I didn't own a gun despite them being legal, because the guy considering breaking into my house didn't know whether I owned one or not.

[sonatine]

like we could just start with making military murder-guns illegal.

but we wont.


because lolpublicans + god + the bible or something.

[Dan Druff]

BTW, I bought a gun in 2008. I didn't own one before then. I wasn't opposed to owning one, but I didn't feel enough drive to go get one.

I changed my mind because of a stupid thing that happened in Vegas.

I was sitting in my apartment at about 2am and I heard the window being slammed upon hard.

I lived in an area which was okay, but it was far from crime-free. (I didn't have much choice if I wanted to live close to the strip and not pay a fortune.)

I didn't know what that bang on the window was, but it for sure was too loud to have been anything but a human being, and my window wasn't close to any walkways.

I felt helpless and didn't know what to do. It didn't help that it was during the AP/UB scandals, and I was very vocal in calling them out. One of the other guys doing that had received death threats. No one ever threatened me, but it was on my mind when I heard that window thing. Was it possible someone was trying to force open the window?

I ran out of view of that window, grabbed a large object, and waited with a fast-beating heart.

I was so angry at myself for not having bought a gun.

My phone rang a few minutes later, and it was an idiot friend of mine playing a prank on me (no one anyone here knows). I told him to never do that shit again.

The next day I drove to a gun store, and started the process to buy one.

[big dick]

for a while.

For a very, very, very long while.

Between the already illegal guns out there, plus all the guns that wouldn't be turned in upon a mandatory buyback program (there would be a high number of people claiming to have "lost" theirs, or whatever), it would take an incredibly long time to eventually find these guns and confiscate them.

And when I say a long time, I mean that if you knocked up some woman today, your great great grandkids wouldn't be in a gun free society.

Typical republician couldn't care less about future generations.

[Dan Druff]

For a very, very, very long while.

Between the already illegal guns out there, plus all the guns that wouldn't be turned in upon a mandatory buyback program (there would be a high number of people claiming to have "lost" theirs, or whatever), it would take an incredibly long time to eventually find these guns and confiscate them.

And when I say a long time, I mean that if you knocked up some woman today, your great great grandkids wouldn't be in a gun free society.

Typical republician couldn't care less about future generations.

My son will probably live until around 2100. I care very much about the world he will live in.

I think the price of forcing a gun buyback now is far, far too high for society compared to any potential gains in the very distant future.

[hongkonger]

It's one thing when barbarians don't know they're barbaric, but it's sort of sad watching people vigorously defend and celebrate being barbaric.

[Sanlmar]

BTW, I bought a gun in 2008. I didn't own one before then. I wasn't opposed to owning one, but I didn't feel enough drive to go get one.

I changed my mind because of a stupid thing that happened in Vegas.

I was sitting in my apartment at about 2am and I heard the window being slammed upon hard.

I lived in an area which was okay, but it was far from crime-free. (I didn't have much choice if I wanted to live close to the strip and not pay a fortune.)

I didn't know what that bang on the window was, but it for sure was too loud to have been anything but a human being, and my window wasn't close to any walkways.

I felt helpless and didn't know what to do. It didn't help that it was during the AP/UB scandals, and I was very vocal in calling them out. One of the other guys doing that had received death threats. No one ever threatened me, but it was on my mind when I heard that window thing. Was it possible someone was trying to force open the window?

I ran out of view of that window, grabbed a large object, and waited with a fast-beating heart.

I was so angry at myself for not having bought a gun.

My phone rang a few minutes later, and it was an idiot friend of mine playing a prank on me (no one anyone here knows). I told him to never do that shit again.

The next day I drove to a gun store, and started the process to buy one.

1. Friends do dumb shit
2. Average gun owner has average intelligence
3. Friends of gun owners have an average chance of getting accidentally shot in Las Vegas