Active Shooter, Parkland, FL High School

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

I thought his zombie like appearance was prob the result of Devil's Breath being blown in his face but coming off a high addy dose is pretty much the same look. It also explains him heading straight to McDonald's after.

[Daly]

but the current makeup in the country is changing. i posted this already but a total gun ban is inevitable. all you have to do is look at demographics and look at polls showing how those groups vote.

gun rights advocates are more strongly concentrated in white rural uneducated groups, but that group is disappearing

A recent poll of Asian American registered voters found that 80 percent supported stricter gun laws.

Support for gun control is correlated, too, with levels of education. Gun rights are favored by a slim majority of those who attended only high school (50 percent to 47 percent). Among those with a college degree, however, 58 percent favor gun control, compared with 38 percent for gun rights. This demographic is also trending in a favorable direction for gun control advocates. Between 2002 and 2012, enrollment in degree-granting institutions increased by 24 percent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.fe6e77b53dd9


there's also other factors that affect thinking on gun ownership like pop culture and the decline of religion which are trending in the wrong direction for gun enthusiasts.

I'm not going to argue the trend. But now is not 10 years from now and a constitutional amendment just isn't on the table.

So with that in mind - what can be done now.

as far as stricter gun control legislation, without trump's leadership, the answer is probably nothing because it's not in the GOP interests to pass anything.

i'm talking even sensible things that most gun owners believe in like raising the age of buying AR-15's from 18 to to 21 (like handguns) and more extensive screenings. the NRA is convinced that the slightest encroachment on gun rights will ultimately trickle down to banning guns completely (of course, they're right) so it's really hard to do anything.

if trump, himself, pushed stricter gun laws, he could get anything done he wanted to imo

we also need to seriously rework our mental health laws, including when you can institutionalize someone or subject them to enhanced scrutiny. both dems and republicans will have issues with this, but it's overdue.

as far as a non-legislative thing, i want the national guard in every fucking school in the country.

The gun industry is right that giving any concessions will open up a slippery slope where more and more restrictive laws get passed. That's typically what ends up happening regarding highly polarizing issues.

Think of the gay/transgender laws over the past 15 years. First it was civil unions. Then it was gay marriage. Then it was trans bathroom rights. Then it was "discrimination" laws in some areas where someone's preferred pronouns aren't used. Had it started in 2002 with, "Transgender people need to be able to use their bathroom of choice, and employers who refuse to use their preferred pronoun can be civilly liable for discriminatory behavior", almost nobody would have gone for this.

So often these things really do happen in phases, and those conceding moderately often ask themselves, "WTF just happened?" when it's all over.

I find it realistic that gun laws may go the same way.

What we need would be some sort of promise from the left to the gun industry (and gun rights advocates) of, "If you pass XXXX change, we promise not to pursue YYYY."

Of course that's not binding, but it's something the gun industry can use in their own defense if that promise is ever broken.

There is this thing called the bill of rights that acts as a backdrop of support for the "gun industry". You are going to see the businessman who run the industry are going to start to support changes because they know the only way that a 2'd amendment repeal is happening would be for them to do exactly nothing the way things have been going. Kind of like how he cigarette manufacturers all of a sudden we're OK with the warning labels back in the 90's. They saw the writing on the wall too and they agreed to reign it in some.

[BetCheckBet]

Constitutions which historically guaranteed a right to bear arms are those of Bolivia, Colombia, Costa Rica, Guatemala, Honduras, Liberia, Mexico, Nicaragua and the United States of America.

[BetCheckBet]

Also of all those countries the USA is the only one to not have restrictions in their constitution.

[MrTickle]

Imagine thinking that a fatal shooting is a reasonable response to a burglary.

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

Imagine thinking that a fatal shooting is a reasonable response to a burglary.

No shit just shoot the guys legs or arms and he's down.

[Brittney Griner's Clit]

My finger is closer to the butthole than the pulse but it feels more and more like any day now, or at least after the next shooting, actual upstanding republicans are gonna start claiming "false flag" or "hoax" and upstanding democrats are gonna claim the Alexa Miednik's of the world are Russian Sleeper Agents planted and waiting to lie and twist narratives. My house of cards psyche probably won't make it through that bull shit. If so it was nice knowing yall. I will try to remain hopeful the ends justify the means but shit seems pretty Steve Bleako.

#cryfreedom

[Tellafriend]

Tellafriend: Sure sport

Maybe Max Power is right. You really are team retard.

Riveting. Really. That notwithstanding, show me where I am wrong. You know, it's not like anyone would have looked into any of these mass murder's backgrounds after their killing sprees or anything. What a clown you are.

[devidee]

I'm all for gun control.

[MumblesBadly]

but the current makeup in the country is changing. i posted this already but a total gun ban is inevitable. all you have to do is look at demographics and look at polls showing how those groups vote.

gun rights advocates are more strongly concentrated in white rural uneducated groups, but that group is disappearing

Support for gun control is correlated, too, with levels of education. Gun rights are favored by a slim majority of those who attended only high school (50 percent to 47 percent). Among those with a college degree, however, 58 percent favor gun control, compared with 38 percent for gun rights. This demographic is also trending in a favorable direction for gun control advocates. Between 2002 and 2012, enrollment in degree-granting institutions increased by 24 percent.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.fe6e77b53dd9


there's also other factors that affect thinking on gun ownership like pop culture and the decline of religion which are trending in the wrong direction for gun enthusiasts.

I'm not going to argue the trend. But now is not 10 years from now and a constitutional amendment just isn't on the table.

So with that in mind - what can be done now.

as far as stricter gun control legislation, without trump's leadership, the answer is probably nothing because it's not in the GOP interests to pass anything.

i'm talking even sensible things that most gun owners believe in like raising the age of buying AR-15's from 18 to to 21 (like handguns) and more extensive screenings. the NRA is convinced that the slightest encroachment on gun rights will ultimately trickle down to banning guns completely (of course, they're right) so it's really hard to do anything.

if trump, himself, pushed stricter gun laws, he could get anything done he wanted to imo

we also need to seriously rework our mental health laws, including when you can institutionalize someone or subject them to enhanced scrutiny. both dems and republicans will have issues with this, but it's overdue.

as far as a non-legislative thing, i want the national guard in every fucking school in the country.

The gun industry is right that giving any concessions will open up a slippery slope where more and more restrictive laws get passed. That's typically what ends up happening regarding highly polarizing issues.

Think of the gay/transgender laws over the past 15 years. First it was civil unions. Then it was gay marriage. Then it was trans bathroom rights. Then it was "discrimination" laws in some areas where someone's preferred pronouns aren't used. Had it started in 2002 with, "Transgender people need to be able to use their bathroom of choice, and employers who refuse to use their preferred pronoun can be civilly liable for discriminatory behavior", almost nobody would have gone for this.

So often these things really do happen in phases, and those conceding moderately often ask themselves, "WTF just happened?" when it's all over.

I find it realistic that gun laws may go the same way.

What we need would be some sort of promise from the left to the gun industry (and gun rights advocates) of, "If you pass XXXX change, we promise not to pursue YYYY."

Of course that's not binding, but it's something the gun industry can use in their own defense if that promise is ever broken.

There is this thing called the bill of rights that acts as a backdrop of support for the "gun industry". You are going to see the businessman who run the industry are going to start to support changes because they know the only way that a 2'd amendment repeal is happening would be for them to do exactly nothing the way things have been going. Kind of like how he cigarette manufacturers all of a sudden we're OK with the warning labels back in the 90's. They saw the writing on the wall too and they agreed to reign it in some.

The 2nd Amendment guarantees the right to own a gun, but it does *not* provide gun manufacturers and dealers immunity from civil liability when guns they sell are used in crimes. The GOP, however, enshrined that right, albeit with an exception, into federal law in 2005 with the passage of the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prot...ct?wprov=sfti1

(The families of those kids in Florida wish to thank all of the voters who contributes to electing into office a NRA-controlled federal government.)

[Max Power]

Tellafriend: Sure sport

Maybe Max Power is right. You really are team retard.

Max Power is seldomly wrong, especially when it comes to MCEC's.

[devidee]

• the shooter was living with a man with a career in military intelligence
• father of Cameron Kasky, a student who survived the shooting & is now anti-gun activist, works for the FBI
• FBI failed to investigate the shooter
• shooting took place in Debbie Wasserman Shultz's district

Fucking Mossad.

(((again)))

[adamantium]

• the shooter was living with a man with a career in military intelligence
• father of Cameron Kasky, a student who survived the shooting & is now anti-gun activist, works for the FBI
• FBI failed to investigate the shooter
• shooting took place in Debbie Wasserman Shultz's district

Fucking Mossad.

(((again)))

Good god this is getting embarrassing, your shtick was never funny to begin with, take a fuckin breather man.

[Max Power]

• the shooter was living with a man with a career in military intelligence
• father of Cameron Kasky, a student who survived the shooting & is now anti-gun activist, works for the FBI
• FBI failed to investigate the shooter
• shooting took place in Debbie Wasserman Shultz's district

Fucking Mossad.

(((again)))

Good god this is getting embarrassing, your shtick was never funny to begin with, take a fuckin breather man.

This is what brainwashed looks like adamantium.

[sonatine]

The attention you just gave him sponsored his next ten shitposts.

[Hockey Guy]

Tellafriend: Sure sport

Maybe Max Power is right. You really are team retard.

Riveting. Really. That notwithstanding, show me where I am wrong. You know, it's not like anyone would have looked into any of these mass murder's backgrounds after their killing sprees or anything. What a clown you are.

How can I show where you're wrong when it's just your opinion without any facts to back it up?

All I know is doing absolutely nothing will cause the status quo to continue & school shootings will continue at rates nobody wants. All I'm saying is they have to try something whether you personally think it's window dressing or not.

Not sure why you're taking such offense to my original comment. Something has to be done & you seem to be defending the status quo.

[devidee]

Guess what those states don't have.

[hongkonger]

Guess what those states don't have.

They also have more bears than people.

[Daly]

Guess what those states don't have.

They also have more bears than people.

Which maybe, and I know I'm crazy here, gun laws should be a state issue and not federal.

If Illinois wants to make every gun except for the most basic .22 illegal they should and in some ways I wouldn't blame them. If Idaho wants to make fully automatic AK's legal why the hell not.

[BCR]

They also have more bears than people.

Which maybe, and I know I'm crazy here, gun laws should be a state issue and not federal.

If Illinois wants to make every gun except for the most basic .22 illegal they should and in some ways I wouldn't blame them. If Idaho wants to make fully automatic AK's legal why the hell not.

What prevents them becoming gun buying tourism spots for fully automatic Ak-47s? We going to start checkpoints on every border? And what happens to your adopted state that is often GOP-heavy state legislature while also being full of insane people and demographically challenged? That school shooting in Parkland has a body count of 125?