Thread: Time to get on the TRUMP train

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    Is Trump attacking the freedom of the press, or is he just complaining they aren't giving him a fair shake?

    I mean lets look at Turkey where the new dictator has actually passed laws severely curtailing press freedom and thrown a lot of people critical of him in prison. I think this falls under the category of attacking the freedom of the press. I am not sure anything Trump has done really falls under that category. I think the worst he has done is try to bully and intimidate them for being too critical of him using mostly juvenile school yard bullying tactics.

    Maybe I am wrong. Has he actually tried to pass any laws or use any executive power to curtail freedom of the press?
    No, but it always starts with demonizing, then escalates to persecuting. Such a threat must be met early and head-on.

    He has said he wants to change the libel laws to make it easier to sue the press. This has always been a matter for the states but in theory there could be federal laws about it.
    The alternative could be....maybe, JUST MAYBE for the media to stop acting like fucking idiots and could report on something in a truthful and fair manner instead of twisting and turning everything to fit their BS agenda. It's worse to allow the media to spew lies and deceive the public than to be critical of them and try to get them to shut the fuck up.

    Then again, you mistakenly think Hillary won, so.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    I'm big on the "deep state did the Hawaii false alarm to bait Trump into bombing NK" theory today

    20-30% chance

    why would the deep state use north koreas hawaii false alarm hack to bait trump into bombing nk?

    I'll let u know when I reach 50%

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    Quote Originally Posted by verminaard View Post
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    No, but it always starts with demonizing, then escalates to persecuting. Such a threat must be met early and head-on.

    He has said he wants to change the libel laws to make it easier to sue the press. This has always been a matter for the states but in theory there could be federal laws about it.
    I think if we lived in Turkey or Russia someone like Trump could actually be a danger in this regard. But I really think our system of checks and balances and overall our political culture and values make it impossible for a President to go this far. Maybe that is part of Trump's frustration, is that he thought he would be the Putin/Kim Il Jong of the United States, and he has had a rude awakening the President just doesn't have that reach.

    Democracy and freedom of speech don't work out very well or last very long in the 3rd world because, for good or bad, those just aren't things that are valued in places like Africa and the Middle East. I just think our values are strong enough to weather the storm of a president like Trump in this regard. I think most of the fears of him becoming a despot or tyrant are completely unfounded. I absolutely believe he would like to be able to do this if given the opportunity, but I don't see it happening. I think even the Republican Party would ultimately turn on him if he tried to reach too far.

    That being said, between him and Congress between their campaign to enrich the rich at the expense of everyone else, his foreign policy "misadventures" and assault on the environment, some real damage could be done in the next 3 years to our country. But restricting freedom of speech of the press, or anyone else, I just don't see it.

    If anything, when it comes to restricting freedom of speech, there is much more danger from the left IMO, who are actually campaigning to restrict freedom of politically incorrect speech.
    Funny you should say our democratic norms will resist Trump. I think that's true but the norms can be eroded over time, and are, which is where the real danger lies. Trump isn't the problem he's a symptom, and is laying the groundwork for some future tyrant, once we accept this as the new normal.
    HILLARY WON

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    Quote Originally Posted by devidee View Post
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    Dutch intelligence services were monitoring Cozy Bear/Fancy Bear Russian penetration teams in real time as they hacked the election and for good measure, broke into the security camera across the street from their location and used it to document Russian SVR intelligence agents coming and going from their headquarters.

    https://securityboulevard.com/2018/0...ime-for-years/

    For less technical analysis because I know most of you arent great with big words..:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=dutc...bear+cozy+bear
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    LOL GOT U ALL SOVIET COMPUTERS ARE MODIFIED TO RUN ADVANCED SOCIALIST CATS WHO PEER INTO RUSSIAN SOULS AND HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR IMPERIALIST TRASH AMERICAN DUMBS.
    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonatine View Post
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    LOL GOT U ALL SOVIET COMPUTERS ARE MODIFIED TO RUN ADVANCED SOCIALIST CATS WHO PEER INTO RUSSIAN SOULS AND HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR IMPERIALIST TRASH AMERICAN DUMBS.
    In Soviet Union, pussy eats you.
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    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by hongkonger View Post
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    LOL GOT U ALL SOVIET COMPUTERS ARE MODIFIED TO RUN ADVANCED SOCIALIST CATS WHO PEER INTO RUSSIAN SOULS AND HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR IMPERIALIST TRASH AMERICAN DUMBS.
    In Soviet Union, pussy eats you.

    "Birds born in a cage think flying is an illness." - Alejandro Jodorowsky

    "America is not so much a nightmare as a non-dream. The American non-dream is precisely a move to wipe the dream out of existence. The dream is a spontaneous happening and therefore dangerous to a control system set up by the non-dreamers." -- William S. Burroughs

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
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    Lol sticking up for Maxine waters, see ur way out bud DQ

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    “I believe the simplest explanation is, there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization that there probably is no heaven and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe and for that, I am extremely grateful.”
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    “I believe the simplest explanation is, there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization that there probably is no heaven and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe and for that, I am extremely grateful.”
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    apropos of corruption:

    Former congresswoman Corrine Brown sentenced to five years in prison in charity slush-fund case
    By Cleve R. Wootson Jr. December 4, 2017

    A federal judge sentenced former U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown to five years in prison on Monday, months after a jury convicted the Florida Democrat of fraud for using a charity for poor students as her personal expense account.
    The allegations — which, in addition to fraud, included lying on tax forms and congressional disclosures — had already cost Brown her seat in Congress: She lost a primary election last year amid the scandal.
    Prosecutors argued that the 71-year-old had turned a charity for poor students into an $800,000 personal slush fund, according to the Associated Press.
    After a nearly 25-year career in Congress, she was convicted in May and could have spent the rest of her life in prison.

    The court papers claimed that she and her chief of staff, Elias “Ronnie” Simmons, raised more than $800,000 for the One Door for Education scholarship fund — but had handed out only two scholarships worth $1,200.
    The indictment alleged that Brown and Simmons had instead used the majority of the money for themselves — “for personal and professional benefit.”
    They threw lavish parties, took expensive trips and went on shopping excursions.
    Simmons and the charity’s executive director, Carla Wiley, testified against Brown in exchange for plea deals; the two were also scheduled to be sentenced Monday.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.2f99f41f5af9

     
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      MumblesBadly: Nice try at deflection, Tellatard, but this won't help Trump get skewered by their own stupidity and hubris.

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    I fear those letters and the answers that follow are going to open the flood gates. This is looking really bad.

     
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      hongkonger: I'm glad it's looking bad. Fuck those clowns.
    Real men and women of integrity will one day save the Republican Party from this scourge.

    - Max Power

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    Dumbo donny getting coaching from legal team for Mueller interview. they hired a fake Mueller. rump won't let him work though keeps staring at tvs when tough questions get asked.
    “I believe the simplest explanation is, there is no God. No one created the universe and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization that there probably is no heaven and no afterlife either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the universe and for that, I am extremely grateful.”
    Stephen Hawking

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    Trump appointed this moron ofc. A must watch imo


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/polit...ery/index.html

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    Koch fags gonna pump 400 million into the party of perverts and pedos in order to keep majority.Some democracy we have where pigs like this can control all the sheep.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/polit...ate/index.html

     
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      MumblesBadly: Fucking sickening. I hope their money is wasted!

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      thesidedish: ABSOLUTELY TRUE

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    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Koch fags gonna pump 400 million into the party of perverts and pedos in order to keep majority.Some democracy we have where pigs like this can control all the sheep.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/polit...ate/index.html
    It's not going to matter. It's going to be a bloodbath for the GOP come midterms. Historically speaking the first midterms after one party get control of both houses and the Oval is a bloodbath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by big dick View Post
    Koch fags gonna pump 400 million into the party of perverts and pedos in order to keep majority.Some democracy we have where pigs like this can control all the sheep.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/27/polit...ate/index.html
    It's not going to matter. It's going to be a bloodbath for the GOP come midterms. Historically speaking the first midterms after one party get control of both houses and the Oval is a bloodbath.

    They will lose 1 house, but I think they will retain 1. If I am wrong and they take both houses, the following 2 years will be amazing to watch.

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